Talk:The Seinfeld Chronicles
|The Seinfeld Chronicles has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.|
|WikiProject Seinfeld||(Rated GA-class, Mid-importance)|
|WikiProject Television / Episode coverage||(Rated GA-class)|
The quality scale guidelines say "Once an article reaches the A-Class, it is considered 'complete', although obviously edits will continue to be made." Having watched the episode, listened to Notes About Nothing, etc., I think the article is about as complete as can be (not that it can't be improved). I don't think every article can or should be long in order to be a good article. So why "start class"? What can be improved? ~ InkQuill 01:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I have added a sub-section underneath the plot for the reference to Superman. If any of you feel it should go somewhere else, feel free to move it.
I am going to try to add this section in to some of the other episode pages in the coming days.
WBredefeld 07:45 PST 29, March 2006
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GA review: comments
A most enjoyable article, with just a few areas that need attention.
- Lead. You might consider dropping the abbreviated plot summary in the lead. It could be replaced by a summary of the world-wide impact of the series that followed from the pilot.
- In the first paragraph of the Production section you use the words “pilot” and “episode”. Are these the same thing? Later in the paragraph you use the term “show”. Is that also the same thing? As it stands this paragraph is a bit confusing to the reader – can you redraft or clarify it?
- You need to explain “Neilsen” ratings to ill-informed Brits. I can guess what they are, but a footnote, or explanation in the text, is necessary
- I’m not sure about the Cultural references section. Are these really “cultural” references? Their context is entirely within the Seinfeld series, and I would have thought that the section title required a rather wider spectrum. Perhaps expand the section – or re-title it?
- Have you resolved the "fair use" problem? (A couple more images might improve the appearance of the article.)
I haven’t done a thorough punctuation or MoS trawl, but on the face it these are OK.
If you can attend to the above there’ll be no problem with GA
- I have seen the various changes since the above was posted.
- Lead: Fine now
- Production: OK now. I've done a bit of tweaking in paragraph 1, to sort out a slight grammar problem & also to avoid some repetitions of "pilot" and "stand-up". I think it reads well now, but you'd better check that I haven't changed your meaning.
- Neilsen: Fine, you've linked
- Cultural References: I see you've changed the title. Shouldn't "Reference" be plural in the new title, as you give more than one example? I'm a bit disappointed you didn't extend this section, because at present it gives a rather weak ending to the article. Can I suggest a couple of ways in which you could beef it up? First, start it with a sentence such as: "The pilot was a reference point for various incidents and storylines in later episodes of Seinfeld". Then, extend the sentence about the main story arc in Series 4 by explaining that story. These are small points, but they will help in giving the article a final polish.
- Images: You've added another picture. Again, its not a public domain or free-use image. I assume that in both cases you are relying on the indication on the image page which says that publication is authorised "on the English Language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the US by non-profit Wikimedia Foundation". Have you been able to confirm your right to publish?
- I have seen the various changes since the above was posted.
GA review summary
I am pleased to say that this article has passed GA. I have carried out a number of final tweaks on the text, to deal with issues of punctuation, grammar, repetitions, a few MoS points, and have added an explanatory phrase re the Betrayal episode, but these were minor matters.
In relation to the six GA criteria the review is summarised as follows:-
- Well-written:The prose was adequate, and was improved by a little treatment. MoS violations fixed. PASS
- References, sources: PASS
- Broad coverage: PASS
- Neutral: PASS
- Stable: PASS
- Images: I was satisfied by the editors that fair use rationales had been added. PASS
The original music.
I don't think it's mentioned on the official site but it's mention on the original episode. If you turn on "Notes About Nothing", it mention's that Jep Epstein did the original music. Then on syndication Jonathon Wolff took over. I presume it's too late so I'll leave it on discussion page leaving anyone who's into editing to consider this info because had I not mentioned it, it will not see the light of day. You'll get what I mean. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 09:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
In the section listing references to this episode in later episode (the Dog) it was stated that Jerry tells the passenger on the plane his neighbor has a dog. This is incorrect. The passenger asks Jerry if he has any pets, Jerry replies with "just my next door neighbor" not referencing the god Kramer presumably has in this episode but more referencing the type of relationship he and Kramer have (where essentially Jerry is responsible for Kramer's food.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 01:27, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Lead too long?
Some parts, like a different theme song, were not mentioned in the article. I wonder if some parts can be moved properly into body article, like Production. --George Ho (talk) 06:25, 3 March 2013 (UTC)