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Christopher Plummer's opinion[edit]

This article suggests that Plummer does not like the movie(s). It repeats the "sound of mucus" line twice, no less. Is it really true? I recently watched the extras for the 40th anniversary DVD and if he hates the movie, he put on a jolly good show of hiding it, contributing interviews, commentaries, etc, all seemingly complementary.... Pcb21 Pete 22:43, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Well it only has one mention now, and balanced with the seemingly contradictory information. Pcb21 Pete 22:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Another thing I want to check out on the DVD, Christopher Plummer does an audio commentary with Julie Andrews. It may not answer the question as he could have participated for the money?Kidsheaven 00:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Plummer has joked about not being fond of children, and how annoying the child actors were, but it has become more a tidbit journalists pick up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.23.118.183 (talk) 13:37, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Sound of Music and its reception in Salzburg and Austria[edit]

This seems odd: "The musical itself is virtually unknown in Austria, except in backpacker's hostels in Salzburg, where it is screened daily on DVD. The Ländler dance that Maria and the Captain shared was not performed the traditional way it is done in Austria."

What, they don't have cinemas and see big English language Hollywood blockbusters in Austria?! When I was there Look Who's Talking received much publicity and prominent advertising. Gee, and the The Sound of Music film (which is what the trivia items seems to be referring to, with its mention of DVDs playing) was such a huge hit everywhere else! Asa01 08:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

(And this is how austrians with a complex relationship to 'Sound of Music will answer:

Yea Asa, even if it seems unbelievable for you, (young) Austrians are not very happy about this film and it is not very famous in Austria! First of all, because it is just a copy of an Austrian story which was allready used in the Austrian/German film "Die Trapp-Familie" from 1956. So the "big" American film is just a reuse of a story, which was (years before!) allready used in a german-speaking film. The story became famous in the states due to a musical, and the musical-text-writers thereself also took all their inspiration from the book of Maria Trapp (The Story of the Trapp Family Singers) and the allready existing films. But thats not the biggest thing, as many other american films are based on an Austrian story, one of the best is Eyes Wide Shut, the last film of Stanley Kubrick, which is based on a story originally playing in the Vienna of 1900 ... But there is a second explanation, which seems even more important: The film "The Sound of Music" is full of "kitsch", old fashioned stereotypes and complete unrealistic images of Austria. This was also the same in the former Austrian/German-film from 1956, but the first one was only a short episode in the history of Austrian films, while the american film became so famous that many, many people (all over the world!) where influenced by its images of pre-WWII-Austria. It is like everybody in the world would think America is as it is described in Gone with the Wind (film). ;-) ... So we Austrians accept "The Sound of Music" as an important factor for our tourism, but whe didnt fall in love with this film. ... Nice Greetings from Vienna/Austria, Raoul 84.112.157.52 18:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
If you compare the two 'Die Von Trapp Familie' films which inspired the musical and the 'Sound of Music' film, you cannot blame the american for having added the kitsch to the story: the original german/austrian films is already full of stereotypes: most of the elements critizised above were already there and it was here the nazi story was introduced, with the family 'escaping' over the mountains, although the truth was they simply took the train to Italy. Maria von Trapp was involved in the script, even. The truth is, these german language films were and still are of the most seen films in austrian history -and this leaves 'Sound of Music' a bit behind: it was already told, this story, when the US film premiered, and thus, it didn't do well in Austria.

The musical has been staged in Salzburg the last years, in austrian, to huge success, with Salzburg Museum having an exhibition about the phenomenon for three years -so claiming the locals don't know the musical and the film is bullshit in 2014.

The item said that the film was virtually unknown in Austria. It was that claim I was objecting to. Asa01 18:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but due to the reasons mentioned above the film IS nearly unknown to most of the people of Austria, except the "older" generation and those people who are linked to tourism or "music-films" history. The film was never really promoted in Austria, as it contains so many stereotypes about Austria and all the songs in the US-film are sung in English, which is quite unrealistic for an Austrian family (a factual error of the american film, due to US-marketing-considerations in the 60s). Also the story is about a very dark period of austrian history, as in the 30s we first had a Austrofascism dictatorship by the catholic-conservatives (who abbolished the parliament in 1933 and even cilled social-democratic senators during the civil war in 1934), and then came Hitler and Nazi-Germany and overtook this "weak" and allready anti-democratic Austria in 1938. So after WWII, "historical" Austrian films concentrated more on "unproblematic" times of Austrian history, by example the time of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy - so the famous "Sisi"-Films (about "our" Empress Elisabeth) are permanently played in our TV while "The Sound of Music" is played "once in a blue moon". ... Raoul, 84.112.157.52 20:11, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
  • in Salzburg - according to what is shown on the DVD it is now a big tourist attraction for the areas used in the film. So Salzburg knows the film, as for the film being correct to the true story. Maria Trapp sold the rights to the Germans and they and others changed a lot of the facts of the actual family. Kidsheaven 00:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The Austrian Complex: I also live in Salzburg, and can confirm the salzburgers have a complex relationship to the Hollywood Film: the background is first and foremost that the von Trapp family left Salzburg for the US, and their success happened more after their departure: Salzburg did not know much about them! Secondly, the Book came out, and following it were the German produced films 'The von Trapp Family' and the sequal '...in America', both very successful both in Austria and Germany. Upon seeing these films, it is not hard to understand why the Hollywood Film failed: these films are specked with great traditional music, the first has the same beautiful setting and down to the smallest details the very same scenes (the Hollywood film 'borrowed' a lot). 'Sound of Music' became an alien. That the whole rest of the World is visiting Salzburg to splash in the horse fountain, jump in the Mirabell Garden Steps and visit the green field in the opening scene, is for the locals weird. It has become a thing people say: We don't know the film, we haven't seen it. The musical is, however, staged for the first time in history in Salzburg right now, supported by an exhibition in the main Salzburg Museum covering the 'true' life of the von Trapp Family and how the film became a phenomenon. The new generation is curious :)

Filmed in Vermont?[edit]

I've been to Salzburg and a tourguide asked to not be asked anything about the Sound of Music because it wasn't filmed there (read the above section) They said it was filmed in Vermont. This is corroborated with the fact that I've holidayed in a time share in Vermont (near Stowe) where they claimed the von Trappes finally settled. I'm trying to figure all this out in my head but I'm having trouble since it's against what the almighty Wikipedia has said about where the film was filmed. Help me!! 83.67.108.38 22:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Not true. The special features accompanying the DVD has a director's commentary by Robert Wise and interviews with several of the cast members. One DVD even has Charmian Carr's documentary about Salzburg. It is true, however, that the Trapps settled near Stowe after coming to the U.S. MccullarsJ 21:39, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The film was partially filmed in and around Salzburg. Some of the film was filmed in a sound stage in California, but the cast spent months in Europe filming. For years people have been able to go on Sound of Music Tours that take you to places that they filmed in and around Salzburg. I went on one and they took us to the place were they filmed the wedding scene and were Maria and Georg Von Trapp actually got married. They did not film it is Stowe, Vermont — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.77.127.106 (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Gwen Stefani?[edit]

Is the fact that Gwen Sefani sampled one of the Sound of Music Songs really something people need to know who are interested in the Sound of Music? I mean, who put that in there, her publicist? One might as well link to her in the article of the Sistine Chapel with the comment that she visited there once.

Stephanis "song" (for lack of a better word) really isn't relevant to the topic. She didnt contribute anything to the Sound of Music or its legacy. Her butchering of the delightful R&H tune is something like spray painting a mustache on the Mona Lisa.

LuckyDan 12:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Strange Trivia[edit]

Was there really two movies made in Germany called "Die Trapp family" and "Die Trapp Family in America?" That seems unlikely, and vandalism if it's untrue... I won't remove it, but is there a source on that?

Yoda921 12:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda

It certainly is true; they were made before TSoM. See IMDb for the first and for the sequel. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Wow.... thanks for the links, Fbv65ede. :)

Yoda921 02:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda


Having just watched 40th Anniversary DVD, found it has extensive info to check out. An A&E Biography program along with background info and comparisons of the true story and the musical and film versions. The "real" Maria sold the rights to her book for production into musicals and movies for $9,000 according to one part of the film. It interests me to check out this info and update, some trivia addition could be made of this? The Trapp family needed money, but Maria was not good at negotiations. According to the movie later she received from Rogers and Hammerstein production 7/8ths of 1% royalty. At the end of Biography mention was made of surviving family members of the Trapps in a court case battle over $2 to $3 million US. I don't know if that is what comes of the R&H royalties?Kidsheaven 00:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


THE GAZEBO SCENE was shot "at high noon," confessed cameraman Steve in 1983. It was "magic" (chemicals) during development of the film that gives the appearance of night. Common water hoses provided the "rain."

Source: "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman[1]; "The Sound of Music"


WITHIN THIS OR OTHER DISCUSSIONS, readers have commented on the weather during Maria's "The Hills Are Alive" in the movie's opening scenes: "Was it sunny... or was it cloudy?" they ask. "Seems to change based on camera angles." My acquaintance, Mr. Steve, answered the question....

Filming began very early in the spring of 1964. Producers could see how a layer of snow, several feet thick, would create a problem were they to begin filming so early in the spring. Producers had to have GREEN grass, and lots of it, as soon as the snow was gone.

Their solution? They spread tons of fertilizer over the snow that covered the area where Maria would sing. And the application was successful, somewhat...

When the snow cleared, the fertilizer had done its job: There was plenty lush grass but, due to the glut of fertilizer, all of that grass was blue -- unmistakably, dark blue.

Solution? Film the number as scheduled. When developing the film, bleach was added to the chemicals. The bleach faded the blue, yielding green. But the bleach faded everything else on the film as well. Dark clouds became much lighter, or brighter, if you will.

Source, again, is "Mr. Steve," an acquaintance in Salzburg. Mr. Steve was Second Cameraman during filming. He, too, makes an appearance in the movie: Note the carriage Kutscher as Maria and the children sing "Do-Re-Mi." The Kutscher is Mr. Steve.

Source: "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman[2]; "The Sound of Music"


K. Olinger; 8 Aug 11

Article is Inconsistent[edit]

The article starts with a synopsis of 2 Acts. However further on, the trivia tels how the Germans cus and restored Act 3. Can someone make the Acts consistent throughout the article.

Also, the story of the Korean theatre owner cutting out the musical numbers, is probably false. This story has surfaced many times, but usually in different countries. 20.133.0.14 11:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Necessity of Link[edit]

I removed this link:

because it seemed to be only a commercial placement. The site only glosses over the von Trap family and uses that as a way to interest tourists. It has no significant relation to the article. Cikoykip 05:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


Removed this link as well:
Cikoykip 05:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Cut Scene?[edit]

I remember a long time ago I saw a scene on the The Sound of Music (SOM) that I have not seen or mentioned since. The scene involves a Nazi asking the Mother Superior if the Von Traps were at the monastery. The Nazi said he had heard that the Mother Superior was rumored to have never told a lie in the life. The Mother Superior told the Nazi she had not seen the Von Traps and the Nazi satisfied, left. Later The Mother Superior told Maria that she had just told her first lie to which Maria said "I'm sure God will forgive you."

Either I keep missing this scene or it is another movie I remember, but I don't think so.Septagram 04:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It's in there. I have the 40th Anny. DVD. They might've cut it out for time reasons in TV showings. SkittlzAnKomboz 15:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this scene exists (and I have the 40th anniv DVD as well). Remember, the Nazis did not leave "satisfied". They left attempting to pursue the von Trapps after Rolf sounded the alarm. I wonder if you are thinking of the scene where two of the sisters admit to the Mother Abbess that they have sabotaged the Nazi's vehicles to allow the von Trapps to escape. MccullarsJ 18:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Grammar Issue[edit]

Under the Heading "Singing Voices Dubbed" I find this string of words: "Since Nixon had dubbed My Fair Lady after Andrews had played Eliza in the stage version and was not selected for the film." I have a suspicion about the sentence that this string of words aspires to be, but I'm not sure enough to correct it myself. Can somebody with knowledge of this subject fix this? Kjdamrau 04:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)kjdamrau

I gave it a shot. I hope it's a bit clearer. --Carlosmnash (talk) 09:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
I made another attempt at that sentence. It's not referenced properly either. --Thomprod (talk) 20:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Authorship of "I Have Confidence"[edit]

On the 40th Anniversary DVD there are interviews with Saul Chaplin where it is strongly suggested that he -- not Rogers -- wrote the bulk of the song "I Have Confidence". A book by Marni Nixon makes the same claim. It seems to have been at the very least a collaborative effort between Chaplin and Rogers, although contractually Rogers had to receive writing credit. Would someone like to take a stab at addressing this in the main article? MccullarsJ 18:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Television airings / final airing?[edit]

"Final Airing" or last time the movie was aired on television? Master Redyva

Critical Reception[edit]

The article says that this movie had lukewarm to cold reviews when first released, how could this be if it won the best picture award at the Oscars? I realize that the Oscars aren't everything but there must have been some good reviews on its release. S7ilver (talk) 17:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Robert Wise also won the Academy Award for best director for the picture & the cast album was nominated for a Grammy Award for Album of the Year. It would appear these are good signs the picture had a little more than a "lukewarm" reception. Master Redyva 12:29, April 12, 2008 (UTC)
Especially given that the "evidence" behind this claim seems to be just a couple negative reviews (I could find that much negative reception for Casablanca). Add that the fact that reviews today are overwhelmingly positive has been omitted, and I don't see how the bit on reviews couldn't be called either incomplete or biased.74.111.127.30 (talk) 17:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Naval Commander?[edit]

Captain Von Trapp is a naval commander but Austria has no coastline. Has anyone else noticed this discrepancy and can anyone explain it please?  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 20:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Climb every mountain...sail every sea! :) Check this out..[1] Postoak (talk) 21:29, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I see. Thanks.  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 14:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Captain von Trapp was a naval commander. Until 1918 Austria was a large country - Österreich-Ungarn. We had a coastline then - because some Parts of Italy for example belonged to Austria. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.146.37.236 (talk) 20:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Location_Austria-Hungary.png&filetimestamp=20071107125818 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.104.125.132 (talk) 08:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm under the impression that what was then Austria's coastline was mostly or entirely in what later became Yugoslavia. 1918 saw the end of World War (I) and the shrinking of Austria to the landlocked country you are now familiar with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 16:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Origins & sources[edit]

The article about the stage musical currently states "After viewing Die Trapp-Familie (The Trapp Family), a 1956 German film about the von Trapp family, and its 1958 sequel, Die Trapp-Familie in Amerika (The Trapp Family in America), stage director Vincent J. Donehue thought that the project would be perfect for his friend Mary Martin".

This article about the US film should reflect the origins and sources of the US film, which I believe are, in chronological order: 1. The historical events of the von Trapp story; 2. Maria von Trapp's book; 3. The German films; 4. The US stage musical.

I would also be intersted in how much the stage musical & US film are based on Maria's book, and how much on the German films. When I saw the German films on youtube I was struck by how similar they are to the US film in mood, setting, color, characterisation, story sequence, and so on. --123.243.100.160 (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

First section of Production[edit]

The talk about the arc lights used to film the gazebo scene seems to have some information that seems like original research and weasel words. The part about the silhouette working magnificently seems to not be sourced, so I think that we should find a citation for it or have it made a little more neutral sounding. Captain Gamma (talk) 16:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Plot Summary[edit]

Reading the plot summary, I feel that it's far too long and detailed. I flagged this. Is it okay for me (a n00b) to take a stab at redoing it?

66.225.39.109 (talk) 21:47, 22 May 2010 (UTC)TypewriterGirl

I tried[edit]

I tried it, but I hope it's not worse now. I rewrote the whole thing, cutting it to about one-third the length, but it still needs work. Revert me if I messed it up. TypewriterGirl (talk) 03:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

That definitely helped. I removed the tag as the length is much more manageable now. PrincessofLlyr royal court 02:36, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

While I'm reluctant to make my Wikipedia debut by editing someone else's hard work, I noted a couple of 'mis-remembered' plot details. Specifically, while the Baroness may have been fishing for the Captain they announced no plans to marry until early in Act II and the party was not in celebration of any engagement. Also, Kurt asked Maria to show him the dance - he did not attempt it solo as implied. I made the necessary corrections and re-wrote a little to accomodate the changes, but I may have been carried away as I appear to have almost re-written the entire paragraph.212.183.140.51 (talk) 16:37, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with rewriting someone else's work, particularly if it needs correcting. Good work! PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:59, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for that encouragement (now I'm not just an IP). I feel that the plot summary is still perhaps over-long, particularly augmented as it is by so much additional information in the 'Cast' section. That section seems actually to contain no casting information at all and is used mainly for further plot exposition. I might be able to add some actual casting information (once I've checked references) - maybe others have something to contribute? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TriumFant (talkcontribs) 22:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

List of the children[edit]

The names of the children are given, one after the other, each followed the actor's name. I have added Charmian Carr as Liesl because even though she is credited in the previous paragraph it is irritating to find the credit missing when a list is given. P0mbal (talk) 16:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Structure of Article[edit]

I've been studying this article for a few days looking to address what I see as faults and aiming to bring it more into line with WP:MOSFILM.

The Cast section is too long and most material belongs, if anywhere, in the plot section. I propose to remove that entire section, relying instead on the introduction of the cast via the plot summary and the conveyance of additional casting information (real world information, not storylines) in a subsection under Production. This will closely follow the style of the Halloween article, which is given as a good style example at WP:CASTLIST. I intend to expand a little on the existing plot summary to retain some of what currently sits in the cast list. Since it's already over-length, I'll have to prune it quite brutally.

The Historical Accuracy section is largely inappropriate. It contains examples of mere trivia (the doorbell) or real world/fictional world contradictions (the 'impossibility' of walking to Switzerland). In any case, the film is based on a stage play and only changes it makes to bring that to the screen (the moving of musical numbers, the altering of plotlines) is noteworthy. Changes made by the play can be noted in the play's article and/or Maria von Trapp's bio article. In fact much of this stuff is so noted, so it's presence here is duplication.

I propose to remove it and write instead a new Production sub-section (Writing) with more emphasis on how the screenplay evolved from the stage play, ignoring the evolution of the play itself. In posting here, I guess I'm looking for approval (or reasons to leave alone) since I'm not an experienced editor. I do have one question for those that are - I have a source which disagrees with the current account of how Julie Andrews was cast. I see that the article has a source, but it is not available to me. My own source has it that Robert Wise (interviewed in 2005) was the man at the Disney rough-footage screening and suggests that Wyler only began to claim credit after Andrews became such a smash (Wyler, it is said, had actually wanted Audrey Hepburn or Austrian-born Romy Schneider).

Since my proposed Casting section now conflicts with the current account, I have a problem. I'm inclined to think that both accounts should be mentioned (since both are sourced) but to give equal weight to both I'll need to substantially cut back on the detail in the Wyler account. Or maybe you think I should leave things as they are? Advice please! TriumFant (talk) 20:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Tomato Tomoto[edit]

Why isn't this movies rotten tomato score or even Metacritic score in here? That would seem like an important piece of information that may be useful in this article. -James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.164.245 (talk) 20:59, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Cast[edit]

We had 'Liesl' in some places and 'Liesel' in others. As far as I'm concerned, 'Liesl' is the correct one since that's how the character is identified in the end credits. Similarly 'Rolfe', not 'Rolf', and 'Gretl', not 'Gretyl'. Hopefully all occurrences are now consistent. While doing this I also removed some stuff about Kurt being 'encouragable'. In the script, he's actually 'incorrigible'. If another editor wants to put it back with appropriate correction, well, OK, but I tend to feel this sort of over-elaboration isn't good. Also, I deleted the bit about Brigitta being 'sometimes shown to have her head in a book'. To the best of my recollection, she is thus shown just the once.TriumFant (talk) 23:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Racism?[edit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiTum8eQ51E — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.122.54.231 (talkcontribs) 20:55, May 15, 2011‎

Will the REAL Maria von Trapp Please Stand Up?[edit]

The REAL Maria von Trapp does make a brief appearance in the movie. Can you spot her?

Source: "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman[3]; "The Sound of Music"


K. Olinger; 8 Aug 11

Typo[edit]

There is a typographical error in Historical Accuracy #4: Maria and Georg were married in 1927 and not 1398 as depicted. I'm sure this is intended to be 1938, but it's quite confusing until you've figured it out. Since this is one of the best researched and most interesting aspects of the article, I think it's worth fixing. LauraShafer (talk) 23:56, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Welcome to Wikpedia! In the future, feel free to be bold and change it yourself. Cheers, PrincessofLlyr royal court 23:59, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing, friend! One needs to get their sea legs before messing with Wikipedia!!LauraShafer (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Understood. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions. :) PrincessofLlyr royal court 18:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

help![edit]

i was looking at the sound of music when it said it would damage my computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.218.89.186 (talk) 01:49, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

historical accuracy section -- does this stuff about the children apply also to the stage show?[edit]

I find "11.Friedrich (the second oldest child in the film version) was based ...". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 16:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, so far as I know, many, at least, of the criticisms/comments here leveled at the "film" - "lifestyle depicted in the film", etc. - are taking the film to task (whether or not that's the proper verb or sense, never mind) for things that originated not with the film but with the 1959 musical; I am - scratching my head why this section is here, rather than there. That the film is better-known than the original musical? Then provide a link and still have the section where it still belongs- and if any inaccuracies/exaggerations-for-effect originated with the adaptation to film rather than the 1959 version or even the memoirs, place those here, not there. Simple and easily enough done, I should suppose... Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
    • ^ "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman
    • ^ "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman
    • ^ "Mr. Steve," Second Cameraman