Talk:The Squire of Gothos
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Trelane as a Q
Doesn't it seem more plausible for speculation that the Metrons from the episode "Arena" could have been an early version of the Q rather than Trelane? Sure Trelane shares the mischief factor that Q has but the Metron shows more powers and curiousity in humans that the Q seem to have had.--Skeev 17:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- You might be interested in a Star Trek novel called Q-Squared, which covers this topic. It's a pretty good book. Koweja 19:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
While it is a known fact that GENE was an athiest, "I think men have outgrown our need for gods," he made it a point, included in both the Non-Interference Directive and the Vulcan IDIC in NOT trying to convert anyone. Nimoy, Shatner, and Koenig, and probably others were and still are Jews, with Nimoy being extremely devout. Not once in (now 40 years) have I read that GENE was anti-god, Christian or otherwise. I defy anyone to contact Majel and ask her to prove me wrong.
Young people who were not around in the 1960s are misinterpreting what GENE intended. Star Trek was a reflection of the time, but it was also a fiction show competing with other fiction shows at the same time.
One instrument of DRAMA is to make the hero bigger by pitting him against big villains. Kirk was such a hero. Kirk was a modern Hercules or Perseus fighting DEMIGODS to serve the DRAMA. Hercules was assigned impossible tasks and Perseus cut the head off Medusa. The fiction shows at the time had monsters in rubber suits and malfunctioning robots as the villains, Trek aspired to be better than that, and the proof that they succeeded is that Trek is still shown while Lost in Space and other shows are not. Yes there are still rubber suit monsters (Salt Vampire) and malfunctioning robots (M5 supercomputer) but the writing was incredibly better. Plus, using "gods" in human form was CHEAPER and GENE was a notorious tightwad, always squeezing pennies until they screamed. Where No Man has Gone Before is an excellent example.
The name "Kirk" is Scottish for "Church" and if one is to read too deeply into things as some people are want to do, they can easily read Kirk as the Christian Church striking down false (Pagan) gods, but those people tend to be very narrow minded, seeing only what they want to see (atheist propaganda in a children's TV show). To quote Sam Kinison, "How do they get that from this?" referring to people finding strange messages in simple places.
- Either way, sounds like a bunch of original research and thus not allowed. Lots42 (talk) 09:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
DeSalle and Jaeger
Set in the 28th century
Some comment should be made of the fact that this episode set Star Trek in the 28th century:
KIRK: Ahead warp factor three, Mister Sulu. Colony Beta Six wants their supplies. Let's get across this void in a hurry.
MCCOY: Void, star desert. The word conjures up pictures of dunes, oases, mirages.
KIRK: Sunlight, palm trees. We're nine hundred light years from that kind of desert, Bones.
TRELANE: Ah, yes. I've been looking in on the doings on your lively little Earth.
KIRK: Then you've been looking in on the doings nine hundred years past.
TRELANE: A matched set. Just like the pair that slew your heroic Alexander Hamilton. And Captain, I never miss.
(Alexander Hamilton died in 1804)