Talk:Three-point field goal

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Conflict[edit]

look at the quoted excerpt below. you will notice the parts in bold conflict one another. the first bold part states that 3 teams have made a 3 pointer in every game since it was put into play, meaning they have never not made a 3 pointer in a game. then the second bold part states unlv didn't make one on 1/25/86. how can you miss a 3 pointer if the line didn't exist? one of these statements is wrong. is it just a streak that unlv has, or have they literally made a 3 pointer in "every game since the rule was adopted", in which case they could have never missed one?

"In the men's college game, three programs have made at least one three-point goal in each game since the rule was adopted universally for the 1986-87 season (as of February 11, 2008)[4]:

   * UNLV (690 games)
   * Vanderbilt (688 games)
   * Princeton (592 games)

UNLV currently holds the NCAA record for most consecutive games with a made three-pointer. Additionally, due to experimentation in the Big West Conference from 1982 through 1986, the Runnin' Rebels have made at least one three-point field goal in 684 of 695 games in which the rule was used. The last time UNLV failed to make a three-pointer was January 25, 1986 against Long Beach State."— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.113.6 (talkcontribs) 11:51, 1 February 2009‎

{This section should probably be removed, as it is erroneous. There is no "conflict" to speak of, as the quoted material clearly states that the UNLV team last missed a 3-pointer while their conference was "experimenting" with the rule in January, 1986. The article also mentions that the rule wasn't universally adopted by the NCAA until the start of the 1986-87 season, which would be in the Fall of that year!} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.142.144.11 (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
We typically dont delete comments. The original post doesnt seem like an issue as I dont see the text in the article currently.—Bagumba (talk) 22:18, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
WP:TPOC is more relevant to other people's comments.—Bagumba (talk) 22:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Three-pointer vs. Three-point play[edit]

Should these be in separate articles? Wixteria 03:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC) The correct distance for NCAA 3point line is not 25 feet 9 inches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.36.115 (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Introduction to college basketball[edit]

I just watched the 1983 NCAA championship...I might be wrong, but it didn't seem the three point shot was in effect. So, when was the three point shot officially introduced in college basketball? http://www.hoophall.com/history/threepoint_shot_history.htm says it was introduced in the 1980-81 season, which is why I am confused about the 1983 game. —jiy (talk) 08:04, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, I guess it not being adopted nationally until 1986 explains it.—jiy (talk) 05:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

dwayne wade is not a good shooter ,he shot 31 and made 9 all season and isnt kobe and rashard lewis better shooters than some mentioned

Re: Players famous for three-point shooting[edit]

This list was too long to be of any use. I deleted almost everyone except those who I personally felt/knew to be "famous" for their three-point shooting. Please do not add players unless they are famous (i.e. hold a significant record, renowned as Top 3 shooters for multiple years, etc.) for their three-point shooting ability. For example, although Kobe Bryant holds the record for most threes in a game (I believe he made 12 or something a couple of years ago), I do not think people would say he is "famous" for three-point shooting because he does not do that regularly nor does he consistently hit many threes each game. He is known more of as a slasher and mid-range shooter. Same with Tracy McGrady. I think this list would be most useful if it contained <10 players. I have less knowledge of US college, women, or international players so I will leave those lists alone but would appreciate someone to edit them. -- Bubbachuck 02:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work, I agree we shouldn't just any players that are good 3pt shooters but relatively unknowns (Damon Jones), and good players but aren't renowned for 3 pt shooting (McGrady). But I'm surprised you excluded Larry Bird, Dale Ellis (3rd all-time in 3FGM), Steve Kerr (highest 3FG%), Dirk Nowitzki. Aree 08:07, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
I added Dirk Nowitzki, who is known primarily for his three point shooting, and removed Danny Granger, who - to the best of my knowledge - is not generally compared with the great three point shooters of all time at this point in his career. Moldybagel 01:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the current list from the article due to its highly subjective nature, lack of any criteria for inclusion, and for various nonsense entries. Note that the corresponding articles free throw and field goal (basketball) do not contain uncontrolled subjective lists. An objective list of the type given in point (basketball) is acceptable. Myasuda 03:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
There was a reappearance of a similar list, in a section entitled "Notable 3-point shooters" that was equally POV and subjective. I've removed it. Everyone and their mom is going to have an opinion as to who is or is not a "notable" 3-point shooter. A Traintalk 20:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Players famous for three-point shooting[edit]

NBA players

WNBA players

NCAA players

International Players outside NBA

Drive and Kick[edit]

For the utilization, should driving and kicking it out for a three pointer be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.163.254 (talk) 03:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Relevant three-point records?[edit]

I'm removing the statements about the longest streak of consecutive games with a three-pointer, and the NBA all-time three-point leader.

This article does an excellent job focusing on the history and regulations of the three point shot. Specific team and individual accomplishments don't seem to belong. Sure, I would love to see something like "since implementation in 1979, NBA-wide three point shooting percentage has gone from n% to n+10%" or "Three point attempts per game in college basketball increased year-by-year until 2003, when teams collectively attempted x three pointers per game." Those are league-wide stats that add to the overall picture of how the 3-pt basket contributes to game strategy.

But I feel like the specific statistics quoted are cherry-picked. Why not the team with the most three pointers in a season, or with the best percentage in a season, or all-time? Why not the all-time NBA 3-pt percentage leader? Why not include college players? When do we stop inserting team- and player-specific stats? What criterion do we use for such stats such that they're NPOV, and not inserted by fanboys / fangirls / player agents?

So I've deleted the team- and player-specific statistics. Moishe Rosenbaum (talk) 02:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Horrible title[edit]

  • This one should have stayed with the title "three point basket", and I'd like to see it changed back to something that refers to basketball. The person who initiated the move may not have considered that in American football (and the Canadian as well), the act of kicking the ball through the goal posts without first scoring a touchdown is also called a "field goal", and all field goals are worth three points. I propose undoing the redirect to at least mention the sport its referring to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandsford (talkcontribs) 01:46, 12 February 2012‎ (UTC)
    • Disagree: "basket" is a colloquial term. While a field goal in American football is worth three points, it is not commonly called a three-point field goal as there is no other type of field goal (I think Canada is the same?). A hatnote already exists for the few people that might be looking for the football article. Also, Three-point basket is already a redirect. Judging by the number of views of that page, it doesnt look like a popular term.—Bagumba (talk) 06:38, 12 February 2012 (UTC)