Talk:Tiki-taka

"Defenders are patient, preferring safe pass options looking for midfielders with the ball circulated anywhere on the pitch waiting for a gap to make a vertical pass." -- I wanted to flag this sentence as having a grammatical mistake; could be 'preferring safe pass options looking for midfielders, with the ball circulating anywhere' or preferring safe pass options to midfielders that circulate the ball' or something. I'm not sure of the intended meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:406:4102:5960:417E:6F75:9726:8F66 (talk) 15:32, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

This is a genuine article but I'm not too good at using the new editing tools so give me a chance to figure them out and I will improve it, add references etc. Thanks. Mikeyboyproduct

there is another article Tiqui-taca --Chin tin tin (talk) 16:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I added a link from today's Observer / Guardian but I don't know how to embed it properly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.220.44 (talk) 11:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to earmark this page for deletion, don't see the point of it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.175.115 (talk) 19:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I disagree. This is quite a common term in association football commentary, but is not intuitively understood and is a fine candidate for a Wikipedia article. --Smcgrother (talk) 13:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

No connection with "ticky-tacky"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boxes The concepts are similar: dense conformist populated area (of constructions or playground's passes). Bigshotnews 12:52, 6 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigshotnews (talk • contribs)

None. In Spanish, tiqui-taca is just meant as an onomatopoeia for the constant passing of the ball. 129.132.210.81 (talk) 17:19, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I think that there is a question that needs to be resolved here. Is "tiki-taka" the entire system that Barcelona/Spain use, or is it just what they do when they have the ball. If the former, then the opening paragraph needs to also cover their relentless defensive ball pressure. If the latter, then is there a term for the entire system? --Smcgrother (talk) 13:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The term is said to be coined by Argentinian Angel Cappa here in an article called "El tiqui y el toque" http://elpais.com/diario/1994/12/05/deportes/786582004_850215.html On the other hand, tiki-taka doesn't describe much, as for instance Spain keeps ball possession as a defensive weapon but Barcelona uses it as offensive weapon. Guardiola's style is more properly called "position game" http://www.martiperarnau.com/2012/02/el-juego-de-posicion/ --Tiquitoque (talk) 14:37, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Does anyone have the ball possession stats for the match Brazil vs Spain? It should be cited, because they hold the ball for longer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.174.51.178 (talk) 00:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

BRA 48% - SPA 52% (http://es.fifa.com/confederationscup/matches/round=255211/match=300222461/index.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karbt (talk • contribs) 13:26, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Confederations Cup 2009

How come there is no mention of Spain's first loss under the Tiki-Taka style against the United States that also broke their streak as the best national team of that year? That should be acknowledged as the cataclysm of the style's weakness. 108.14.119.219 (talk) 05:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Made-up nonsense

It's been a while since I was a regular contributor on Wikipedia, but I just had to stop here for a minute to explain what many of you might not know if you're not Spaniards.

Tiki-taka is an entirely made-up concept that basically means nothing specific, since it's used in Spain mostly by fifteen-year-old kids writing on Internet forums, and outside of Spain by sports commentators who either just want to look cool or simply don't know that it doesn't mean anything. Yes, I understand that it might make sense to have an article around an expression that has become so popular since it was coined by a Spanish commentator a few years ago, but people who use this word do it in an extremely vague way, meaning completely different things, so it is just preposterous and absurd to describe it as a playing-style quoting teams and coaches as if it actually had a technical, specific meaning.

For the love of God, Guardiola is mentioned here as the main proponent of tiki-taka...well, Guardiola and people surrounding him are on the record as saying that these words are not a playing style, that people who use them don't know what they're talking about, and that they're just the result of lazy and poor journalism by people who don't actually recognize the differences between tactic systems employed by different teams. Because yes, Spain's playing style resembles (former) Barcelona's playing style in no significant way, and the coaches of these teams would be the first ones to point that out. What this article says is like saying that there is a playing style called English football which involves running and tossing the ball around a lot, and that 90% of the English teams since 1890 have played the same style. It's absurd. But anyway, if you're going to pretend that tiki-taka means anything specific, whatever, ok, but at least don't claim that the coach who best represents this word is one who rejects the use of the expression and points out that it makes no sense every time he is in front of a microphone.

--62.83.158.235 (talk) 02:30, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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Etymology

Hi. I don't see any etymological context in that section. Aminabzz (talk) 14:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)