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Page edited for more concise biography, addition of Sporting Chance charity work 4/5 Jan 05 Duckorange 18:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Move to Tony Adams[edit]

I think he's more notable than the other two Tony Adamses and therefore he should be moved to the main article and have a link to the disambiguation. Yonatanh 01:37, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Definetly - the other two are very minor.

Full name[edit]

His full name is Tony Alexander Adams, not Anthony.

Source: his Autobiography. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.202.117.237 (talk) 22:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

Daughters date of birth[edit]

According to his autobiography "Addicted", his daughter Amber was born on 26th January 1995, not 1994. I have also included on this page the incidents that Adams got involved in during his drinking days. Clare was not Adams's daughter but born from a relationship Jane had with someone else. He writes that Oliver was a "Step-brother for Clare".


Adams did suffer a prolonged period of being disrespected as a player, earning the "donkey" tag which was used even by his own fans early in his career. His stature was immense in the mid part and latter part of his career though, as he grew as a professional and a man. I think the fact that he was not always seen as a 'great' but earned that status over a long period is worth accentuating.

80.41.166.26 20:27, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

England captain 92-96[edit]

Tony Adams did not share England captaincy with Platt in the years 92-96. Stuart Pearce was captain for England 92-94. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.225.120.74 (talkcontribs)

Crashing his car and the Pizza Hut incident[edit]

Hi

The crashing of his car and the infamous Pizza Hut incident happened in Hornchurch, the town where he lived at the time. This was explained in his book, Addicted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.33.101.142 (talk) 12:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

STILL Portsmouth manager.[edit]

Until there is confirmation directly from Portsmouth FC, on their website www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/ or in conference, he is still the Portsmouth FC Manager. News rumour sites like BBC, Times and Sky Sports are pointless without confirmation from the club, they are after all just rumours. Rexfan2 (talk) 02:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry the BBC, The Times (the oldest Newspaper) rumour sites ??? 213.218.242.73 (talk) 12:57, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Were they right when they said that Giovanni Dos Santos was coming to Portsmouth deadline day? No. Were they right when they said that Javier Saviola was coming to Pompey? No. Were they right last week when they said Tony Adams would have three games to turn the clubs fortunes? No. They are no more knowledgeable on the subject than a club fan. They're not always right, heck, this was the third time we had been told he would be sacked in the morning after the Swansea defeat and the Fulham defeat. Rexfan2 (talk) 21:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
OK I have removed the links to your so called "rumour pages" Ochib (talk) 10:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Reports that a media organisation "understands" Adams is to be sacked in the morning is speculation. Neither the BBC nor Sky claimed Adams' sacking as a fact until it was confirmed by Portsmouth FC. Media organisations are allowed to speculate, so long as they make it clear that's what they're doing, which the reputable ones like the BBC and Sky usually do; Wikipedia is meant to stick to reliably-sourced facts. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

However the AP report (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/2009-02-08-217970790_x.htm) was a confirmation of the sacking, but that was removed as "rumour" Ochib (talk) 12:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
If you look at the current page at that URL, you'll see it was posted (as I write) 22 hrs and some minutes ago, i.e. yesterday daytime and after Portsmouth had indeed confirmed the sacking. The version removed as rumour some 36 hours ago here, was at the same URL but had a different title – "Reports: Portsmouth fires Adams after 4 months" as opposed to the current "Portsmouth confirms sacking of Adams" – and contained the speculative version. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

– The target title is occupied by an appropriate disambiguation page, however the footballer[1] appears to be far more notable than Tony Adams (actor),[2] Tony Adams (producer),[3] and Tony Adams (American football).[4] Therefore it would seem more appropriate for the subject to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Tanbircdq (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. --BDD (talk) 00:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I don't think this is a clear PRIMARYTOPIC I'm afraid. The actor, for example, has had two major roles in popular British soap operas, including one for nearly a decade. I think page stats are being skewed by RECENTISM. GiantSnowman 09:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support as nom - Regardless of how notable the other subjects are thought to be: the actor's Wikipedia article has only been viewed 3372 times in the past 90 days, the producer's 1294 times and the American footballer's 786 times. Whereas the footballer's article has been viewed 34739 times in the past 90 days (over 10 times more the second most viewed article).
The footballer retired in 2002, has not had a management job since 2011 and has not been in the news for anything noteworthy lately as far as I know, so unsure what WP:Recentism there is thought to be, unless of course this is just an assumption. This article is much more frequently sought and clearly dominates views. Tanbircdq (talk) 12:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
You don't need to !vote as nominator, I have stricken your !vote. GiantSnowman 14:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Reinstated per request and discussion here. benmoore 11:07, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The footballer is shown above to be far-and-away the primary term according to usage, the first criterion. The other criterion, long-term significance, is less clear, but there is no case for the actor being more significant allowing for recency, since the actor was most notable in the 1980s and the footballer in the 1990s, neither of which is particularly recent. The footballer was captain of his country for the most popular sport in the nation, receiving an MBE in recognition. Not to say that the actor didn't have a very successful career, but there is nothing which puts him ahead of the footballer in terms of "long-term significance". C679 13:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support - as per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 12:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The actor's pretty notable as well. No clear primary topic here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support; man, this is a pretty clear ratio of pageviews. Turkey (bird) has a lot of pageviews and is a very notable topic, but it loses hand over fist to Turkey. The actor may be no slouch, but it's a slaughter here. Metaphorically. Red Slash 04:16, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Support - It is evident that the footballer is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC even a decade after he ended his playing career. Mentoz (talk) 21:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.