Talk:Toohoolhoolzote

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One sided[edit]

The article as I have written it is one sided. It is the account from on of the Nez Perce's (Yellow Wolf's) perspective. It needs to be given balance with General Howard's view--he wrote a book or books on the subject.Jacqke (talk) 09:04, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks OK to me, a straight biography. I tossed "chief" as most of the time the word is used, it is an English translation by white people, not a translation to English by native speakers. Joseph himself called him Toohoolhoolzote without the honorific. (Though there is also some doubt if Chief Joseph ever actually gave the famous speech ascribed to him ... Native American history is a minefield out there.) Because those who care do care a LOT, I usually avoid using a word like "chief" unless the political and spiritual leaders of that person's home nation have uniformly and officially said it's OK to say "chief." That said, we can't do much with "Chief" Joseph because it's so widely known and "Joseph" alone is so doggone common, and his name in his own language is not well-known, though he actually was a diplomat, not a military leader. Sitting Bull is another case in point. It's sometimes a little frustrating, because the different Indian nations are all over the map on this, but I've yet to see someone jumped on for NOT using the term. Montanabw(talk) 18:32, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you.Jacqke (talk) 00:17, 13 January 2012 (UTC)