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Untitled[edit]

Hey guys. Like you can see, the german article on Toto is quite extensive, marked as good article and not far away from becoming featured. Perhaps you want to translate it? If here's nobody with knowledge of German, i would offer to translate a raw version with my intermediate level of speaking English. See also on the commons, there are a lot of useful pictures of Toto and its members. Kindly, Norro 20:24, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Ah as we are here... Don't you think Bobby Kimball could be named first as he is the LEAD singer? Paich sings too, but he's not in the front ... -andy 80.129.82.54 13:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

The band's original leaders are/were David Paich and Jeff Porcaro, so if anything, I'd suggest moving Jeff's name up next to David's. --Jmsogw 20:31, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

1976[edit]

I thought the band started 1976?!!

N

This article is overly reverential. Nothing wrong with that but it fails to strike an impartial note I think.

Overly reverential? I thought it was written by the band. Bloodarrow 18:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


Dune only film?[edit]

The article says that Dune is the only film work Toto did. But the Grease (film) article states that Toto did the instruments for the soundtrack. Is this not considered as film work because the music was not composed by Toto, or because maybe it was not under the name 'Toto' but under a different name, or is it simply forgotten? --Pie.er 06:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Mistakes in the article[edit]

There's a mistake in the discography. The live album "Absolutely Live" is linking on a The Doors live album with the same title. I like the music of toto, but I'm not involved enough to change the entries. greetings from rhein-ruhr area in germany! --80.140.225.139 21:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

"It is also said thatToto got their name from the plumbing company, Toto. When in Africa, the clean water supply was from the toilets which happened to be manufactured by Toto. The song" "Africa", was inspired by their expieriences while in Africa." Any cite? Sounds like an urban legend- and besides, the origin of the name was already explained (and better written) a few paragraphs up...


Connecticut[edit]

Didn't they start in Connecticut and relocate to LA?

Porcaro Brothers were born in Connecticut, but they moved to california while childs.

Grant High School[edit]

Whereas the Porcaro brothers may have attended Grant High School (I have no idea about that), I know for a fact that David Paich did not. He attended Chaminade, a Catholic prep school in West Hills, California. He was there from the beginning of 9th grade through graduation. Of this I am certain because I was there with him. Rural Still Life was indeed a band that frequently played at Chaminade, and no doubt at other valley area schools I would assume. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.48.33 (talk) 03:59, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Name capitalisation[edit]

Is the band's name Toto? If so, why does the article keep referring to TOTO? --Alynna 17:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

All those TOTOs seem to have been added recently. It looks like large chunks of text were pasted in from someplace and it reads like a biography or magazine article.-Crunchy Numbers 17:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
This stuff was added here. -- Revision as of 16:52, 23 November 2006 (edit) (undo) 74.118.184.242 (Talk) --- -Crunchy Numbers 17:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree that all caps “TOTO” is just plain weird, and I'm not aware of the band ever having used it. Which makes it just look tacky. Unless somebody objects, I'll go through and change all occurrences to “Toto” sometime soon. Neil 07:36, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Dune a "Cult Phenomenon"[edit]

The last I check Dune is one of the most embarassing Critical and Financial Flops in Film History; so much so that the David Lynch has disowned it. While it is a Cult Film; I wouldn't consider it to be one worthy of the title Cultural Phenomenon. Cult Films that are also Cultural Phenomenons are would be Star Wars, The Wizard of Oz, Planet of the Apes, Rocky Horror, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.207.223 (talk) 06:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

What's the relevance of the Zdravko Colic paragraph?[edit]

The last paragraph under Toto_(band)#Toto_.28_1977-1978_.29 about a Zdravko Colic remaking "Hold the Line" as "Oktobar je, pocinje sezona kise" seems completely out of place to me. Any objections to it being removed? Neil 01:40, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Song Sample[edit]

As soon as my heart stops beating... Anticipating... As soon as forever is true, I'll be over you... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paterdivin883 (talkcontribs) 22:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

Copyright[edit]

The page was recently blanked by 74.118.184.242 on the basis that much of the content was copied from Toto's official site. I think some of the content can probably be gradually re-added providing we are careful not to use sections from their official site or any other copyrighted source. The version prior to the blanking is here. --Jon186 19:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Comparing the content in the current version with the version I linked to above, I found it is the contents of the Biography sectoin that has been removed, but that the entirety of that section was based on Toto's official website history page, (with some minor modifications). So the content cannot be re-instated, it will have to be written from scratch. --Jon186 20:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

To the post about copyright above, YES, the biography must be written from scratch. Absolutely NOTHING can be taken from Toto's official site. Must be in own words. --Cd50 , 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright note[edit]

To 74.118.184.242 - Regarding the note you added "All information has been deleted and MUST REMAIN deleted...", I feel that this is a bit unnecessary, and unfriendly towards non-editors who are just browsing for information. I think it is unnecessary because looking at the history of the page, I see no record of any user re-adding the copyrighted information which you deleted. If it were the case that users were repeatedly re-adding the copyrighted information, then the usual policy would be to give them a series of warnings, and if they continue to add the copyrighted content then they would be blocked from editing (as stated at Wp:copyvio). If numerous different users were adding copyrighted content, then I would see the value in such a warning. --Jon186 19:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Totally agree. --ΛэтєяиuS 19:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I've written a brand new biography[edit]

Ok, I've gone and written a brand new biography with no copyright information. I think it's pretty good as it's very detailed and yet at the same time, not overdone. I hope you guys like it. I'll continue to tweak it for improvement.

--Cd50 , 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the great job you've done. --ΛэтєяиuS 13:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Bio[edit]

Hey cd50:

I think it's a bit daft to say that I'm including "incorrect" information, where you wrote "so and so was fired for using drugs and was arrested" and I say "so and so left the band."

I wrote the official biography of the band for their website and for TotoNetwork.com, so I think I might have a bit more inside information on what has happened than you have.

I CAN tell, however, as an attorney, if you're going to start citing back to illegal activities and you're going to print that stuff without any sort of direct reference whatsoever, you need to be a bit more careful and ensure that what you're saying is 100% accurate. I can tell you unequivocally that there are circumstances and details surrounding several of the incidents you cited that are factually innacurate.

I spent 2 hours editing your bio yesterday to make it flow a bit better -- since I wrote the entire first part and was going to complete it at at later date -- and I think it's rather rude that you replaced the entire thing because I changed the word "fired" to "left the band."

If you want to add any of that other libelous crap back into the history feel free, but how about you add it back into mine, since it looks a bit more professional?

Thanks,

Steve McVey Webmaster www.toto99.com

PS Who can we contact here at Wiki about this copy-right problem? As the author of the Toto99 website, I don't think we'd have any issues sharing the information with Wikipedia to ensure accuracy.

SM

Steve - There is information for copyright holders on submitting their copyright material at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems under the heading "Copyright owners who submitted their own work to Wikipedia", if that's what you're after. --Jon186 20:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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WELL, "libelous" is a big word, when some of this information should be verifiable. Of course, "fired" is tough to verify unless someone involved gives a direct quotation without opposing view.

But arrests should be public record, and as for drug use, Steve Lukather himself states "Bobby was fucked up. We gave him a hundred chances. Then when he got busted and shit like that, he wouldn’t show up and we wouldn’t know how to find him. This was before cell phones. He’d show up and he couldn’t sing because he’d burnt his voice from getting high." He further states "But on The seventh one tour, Joseph got the drug disease. Now we’re all friends, he’s straight and he does scores for TV. But he got fucked up, and we had to end that." http://www.stevelukather.net/Interview.aspx?id=46 Also, a former coworker of mine who worked on The Seventh One called the band "Toot-o" because he said he never saw a band do so much cocaine. And again, Lukather himself talks about doing "buckets for blow" on the The Al and Ed Music Show DVD.

I would agree anything unverifiable should not be in the contents, especially if potentially libelous. But people look at Wikipedia in part to check the truth about these situations, so the wording should not be sanitized in the name of "niceness" or whatever.

For example, why does the bio state Jeff Porcaro died of allergic reaction when the L.A. Times published the coroner's finding otherwise? (Hardening of the arteries due to cocaine use I believe it was)... Oinkdillo (talk) 19:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Even Allmusic reports that Porcaro was a coke casualty. Shouldn't be anything wrong with saying so here. The Sanity Inspector (talk) 00:35, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TOTOlogo.jpg[edit]

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Greg bissonette played with them[edit]

Please note that Greg Bissonette also played live with toto a few times. I can't remember the date, but it was something like 1996 when i saw them live in switzerland with Greg. Anyone can find information about that ?

=> Gregg Bissonette played with TOTO in late 1995 (first leg of the European Tambu Tour) while Simon Phillips was sick. Simon returned to the Band early 1996 and did the rest of the tour

Best regards Mark webmaster@toto99.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.189.92.144 (talk) 10:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TOTOlogo.jpg[edit]

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I removed the image. Writer1400 12:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

New photos[edit]

I've added some new photos I took at a gig some days ago. It's part shameless, selfish, photographic exhibitionism, but I also felt that the previous pics didn't do the band or the individual members much justice. Same with the photos on the articles on Steve, Bobby, Greg and Lee, which were all horrible. I hope you people appreciate these new ones. :)

--Magnushk

The old ones weren't "horrible", but the new ones are better. --ΛэтєяиuS 18:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys.

I like the new pictures but wouldn't it be better to add pictures that suit the current year in the article? For example, on the TOTO IV section, there could be actual pics from 1982 of the band. I know there are copyright issues but there must be SOMETHING that can be done? Just look at other band's bios here. There are several pictures on there that are "official" so to speak (Dream Theater). I would do this if I could but I have NO idea how. Great work guys!

These copyright issues are killing. It's so hard to work with them on the head. If you can provide us photos that don't have these "copyright" problems, that would be great. --ΛэтєяиuS 09:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


Hey everyone -- love the pics and stuff added to the site! I have a ton of these older pictures in my archives, I'll try and pull a few for Wiki, although I'm unsure how to post them! Looks great! -- Steve McVey, webmaster, toto99.com --User:SteveMcVey —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I echo that sentiment. I put up one photo of the original band, and noticed there are many photos scattered about, with no particular order; there are respectively 3 photos of Kimball, Lukather and 3 more of the two together, out of balance compared with the rest of the members. Should I lighten the photo count a bit, and put the remaining ones in chron order? Ohconfucius (talk) 14:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

This page is way overcluttered with images. One good quality image of the currect "major/veteran" members of the band should be enough. Get rid of the 'hired hands'. There is not really any need for the image overkill down into the 'tech' sections like the current discography section has. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Michel Rubini[edit]

I think the band owes thanks to composer Michel Rubini - Sonny and Cher's musical director - for his early career assistance. - 76.94.55.223 (talk) 23:56, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Section on breakup[edit]

The section about Toto's recent breakup could really use some cleanup. There are word usage issues, misspellings, and insufficient citation. I'll do it myself in a few days if no one else jumps in. I'm holding off on it right now as I'm not an expert on the group and therefore I'd mainly be reworking what is already written. Someone with real knowledge of the situation could probably do a better job. Mantisia (talk) 19:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Breakup should be researched further. According to their official website (http://www.toto99.com/blog/updates.php) it seems that the band has planned upcoming performances in CA, as of 6/10/2008. Timhunger (talk) 01:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Those are actually dates for Steve Lukather's solo tour, not for the band. However, I also find it odd that the Toto website mentions nothing of a breakup despite the statement by Lukather on his website. --ThunderPX (talk) 12:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Best known for...[edit]

Toto had lots of hits, but they had three huge hits ("Hold the Line" - #5, "Rosanna" - #2, "Africa" - #1), so those three should be the ones highlighted in the lead paragraph. I'm updating it... please discuss here if you disagree. (Chart info from here.) 28bytes (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I think this is fine. These are the songs that are still frequently played on the radio today.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

Don't make drastic changes to the info box unless discussed first.Other dictionaries are better (talk) 13:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Mike Porcaro / Nathan East[edit]

Please note that Nathan East is not an official member of Toto. Mike Porcaro is still an official member, although he can't play any more. See their website for reference: http://www.toto99.com/band/band.shtml. --Sylvia Anna (talk) 12:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I have edited Mike Porcaro's page to reflect that. Do you want to remove Nathan East from the Template section--related?Mphil1805 (talk) 12:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
No. After all he is related. He plays the second tour for them right now.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 15:39, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
I don't think Mike should be listed as an official member anymore. They broke up in 2008 and he never rejoined for this tour as he was too ill. On his page it states that his years as an active musician ended in 2008 anyway. Granted Nathan East isn't an official member so technically they have no bassist. I also think the section displaying the timeline of band members, everyone should be cut out from 2008-2010 as the band didn't exist then, they split up! Members such as Lukether, Paich and Phillips are continious from when they joined till present and its not realistic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomKing1980 (talkcontribs) 21:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
How about giving others the chance to answer before making such changes to the article? First, if the band still considers Mike Porcaro an official member, how can we not? Second, as to the period from 2008 to 2010, you have a point in saying that it should be cut out. On their homepage, though, they show memberships as continous. I guess I am fine with both.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Well firstly, if the drastic changes you're referring to was putting Nathan East as an official member then I safely say that was not me. He is a session musician and I don't know who did that. Secondly Mike doesn't play with them anymore, doesn't play at all anymore infact, and it states on his page that his music career ended in 2008 which is quite right. He has Lou Gehrig's disease and someone else is playing bass since their reformation (as an official member or not). its not realistic to list him as an official member anymore. They disbanded in 2008 and he never rejoined with them in 2010. As for the member's timeline it is right to cut out the 2008-2010 part. Whether its continuous on their homepage or not their is no denying (I'll say it again) they split up...and then reformed. It's only being accurate and having common sense. I mean to make Lukather continuous is even a bit insulting, they split up because he left and there is even a whole section which quotes his comments about leaving... which put the point across rather well lets say. Its hardly even worth discussing.--TomKing1980 (talk) 15:16, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
I disagree with regards to Lukather. At the time of the split Lukather was the only continuous original member still with the band fulltime, the only other original member who had been with the band from formation to the point of breakup was David Paich, but he didn't tour fulltime with them, and Bobby Kimball was a present original member but had been missing from the lineup for years previously, and was absent when they reformed in 2010. Yes, Toto should be listed as being nonexistent during the period of 2008-2010, but if that's not going to be done then Lukather has to be included as a member during that period purely for the aforementioned reasons, afterall, if Paich and Kimball had been more stable members of the band the breakup would not necessarily have come with Lukather's departure. Burbridge92 (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I guess we could discuss forever if they officially split up in 2008 or not. Was there ever an official statement from the band? They practically weren't together from 2008 to 2010. So whatever. But, if Mike Porcaro is an official member of the band - although he can't play any more - is not for you or WP to decide. It's for the band to decide. They still view him as a member and so should we. --Sylvia Anna (talk) 20:42, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Well if he's still officially part of the band then thats that, but there is no denying they split up, their is an official statememt on Steve Lukather's page and it is quoted in this article. He left and they decided to "go their seperate ways" almost instantly. Steve even says in the statement something along the lines of "Yes I have infact left, Toto is no more". He was so blunt he was forced to retract his statement. Toto did split up....and if its true then fine, against all logic and the fact he's incapable of playing and because he has a replacement, put Mike as an official member then. --TomKing1980 (talk) 23:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
This is what I hate in Wikpedia, someone people can suddenly change the history of articles. One, "split-up" yes but they have reformed until they once again say split up. Even the section mentions the word "reformation". Two, you are jumping the gun by believing that Mike can never play again--have you not heard of miracle recoveries? You are assuming that he is forever incapable of playing bass--no on released an official statement saying, "[Mike Porcaro] is forevr incapable of playing bass". Further more, no one, Toto website, Steve Lukather.net, Totonetwork, the media (which usually hates Toto) or the Porcaro family ever released a statement saying, "[Mike Porcaro] has officially left the band and retired." No one has said that. But if ypou love to edit the article that way, fine by me. This is Wikipedia, the free-to-add anything site.78.109.182.43 (talk) 08:54, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Miracle recoveries? From ALS? The only miracle I know regarding ALS is how long celebrity sufferer Stephen Hawking has survived with the condition, which is nearly fifty years to date (as opposed to the two or so years the average sufferer of the disease has). It is highly unlikely that Mike Porcaro will recover from this, and that's an understatement. Burbridge92 (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
No I will leave Mike's info alone now. He is still an official member and thats fine, but please don't suggest he will recover or play regularly again or perform again, Lou Gehrig's Disease is a very serious illness and people do not survive from it for long, suggesting a "miracle recovery" just to back up why he should be an official member isn't fair, eventually he will loose virtually all ability to move...but if they say hes still in the band then OK. They may not have said officially he will never play, but he has a disease that will eventually paralyze him completely...so does the obvious really need to be released in an official statement????? As for the breakup, it happened. In order.....Steve officially left, officially posted a statement on his page (quoted here), the remaining members officially broke up in 2008 and OFFICIALLY reformed last year to support Mike. --TomKing1980 (talk) 19:33, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Here's something to ponder. Mike Porcaro is an official but inactive member of the band according to the logic being used on this page, because the band still list him as a current member. Well, let's look at similar examples of this kind of thing. Kim Il-sung was the President of North Korea until 1994, when he died. He was subsequently proclaimed the "Eternal President of North Korea", a position which (obviously) he still holds to this date. The position of "President" in North Korea was subsequently abolished (Kim Jong-il has assumed the position of "Supreme leader of North Korea", officially he is not the President). Despite all of this, and the North Korean government's adamance that Kim Il-sung is still the overall leader of their country, we list Kim Jong-il as the real leader. Another example is the band X Japan. Sometime after their breakup in 1997, lead guitarist hide committed suicide. However, the band, since reformed, still introduce hide as a member at every concert. Despite all of this, we do not list hide as a member of X Japan. In both of these cases an inactive individual who spiritually holds their position within some organisation is not listed as a current member of said organisation simply for the fact that they are no longer a member of said organisation. By the same logic, Mike Porcaro is not a member of Toto, because although officially holding the position of "bass player", he is not active with the group and is in essence another spiritual member of an organisation. That's my two cents on the topic. If we are to consider Mike Porcaro as a member of Toto, why do we not consider Kim Il-sung to be the leader of North Korea and hide to be a member of X Japan? (P.S. I'm sure there's other examples, those two are just the ones that sprung to my mind.) Burbridge92 (talk) 10:39, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

One significant difference is that Mike Porcaro is still alive. Let's wait and see how his official status changes when he has died. Whatever, it doesn't change the fact that Nathan East is not an official member of the band but a guest musician.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 12:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Nathan East is still not a member of the band regardless. However, whilst you are correct in saying that there is a significant difference between the examples I gave and Mike Porcaro, that particular difference doesn't change the point I was making. I'm not saying we should remove Mike from the current members, nor am I saying we should add hide to the current members of X Japan or Kim Il-sung to North Korea's infobox as leader, but we should do one or the other for consistency on Wikipedia, for regardless of whether the inactive individual is ill, deceased, or anything else, we can either take the official line (i.e. they're still active when actually they're not) or the actual reality of the situation, but all cases should be treated the same. Burbridge92 (talk) 10:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
This is the place to discuss and decide what is best for this article. It isn't the place to discuss inconsistencies within WP. But anyway, sometimes where two situations are even slightly different, they need different approaches. And then there are not even inconsistencies. In this case I think we do a good job in stating the situation as it actually is.--Sylvia Anna (talk) 21:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm not stating a case for either side. Nor am I suggesting that WP can be sorted by commenting on this discussion page. I'm merely pointing out the inconsistencies that do exist, this is a prime example of one. If I or anyone else decides to follow up on it I'll take it elsewhere. The crucial point is I'm not arguing for a change on this page, because I'm apathetic to the matter for aforementioned reasons. Burbridge92 (talk) 21:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
Why you people want to go against officially state info is against me.Phd8511 (talk) 18:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Somebody needs to sort this out. It's fine for us to note that he's still a member of Toto, but he's not their bass player. He's obviously not touring with Toto. He could theoretically be working "behind the scenes" with the band as the ailing Maurice White has done for years with Earth Wind and Fire, but as Toto isn't recording any studio material this also seems unlikely. Nathan East is certainly a salaried musician rather than an offical band member. I'm not suggesting listing East as a member, nor am I suggesting removing Porcaro as one. But stating in the lede that he's their bass player is misleading our readers. Joefromrandb (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
This is total nonsense. The facts here are drawn from Toto's website and data. Mike Porcaro is still an official member and I think most of you who want to edit him out or think it is inaccurate are just playing around. Unless we get an official press release that he is dead (touch wood) Mike is still their member. He is critically ill but still their member. Enough about this nonsense. Nathan East is a touring member. That is why sometimes I really hate Wikipedians.Phd8511 (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Associate Press Article[edit]

WALTER BERRY, April 12, 1985, Music Makers: Shedding a Faceless Image, Associate Press

"Toto also wrote the soundtrack to the movie "Dune" and the boxing theme "Moodido" for Columbia Records' "The Official Music of the XXIII Olympiad Los Angeles, 1984."

78.109.182.43 (talk) 16:07, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I found it odd that there was no mention in the article about Toto doing the soundtrack to Dune. Why is it not currently in the article? — al-Shimoni (talk) 02:06, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Revert of edits by Scarlettrische[edit]

Apart from other problems, it seems that a lot of Scarlettrische's edits, if not all, were copyright violations from totoofficial.com/history. Do not copy and paste from other sites. --Sylvia Anna (talk) 21:42, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Hungate: Touring or permanent ?[edit]

Is Hungate officially returning or just touring? So who will fill the bass?Phd8511 (talk) 17:43, 9 May 2014 (UTC)