Talk:Toubou people

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History[edit]

This could use some improvement. Sir H. MacMichael claimed that the Tibu were related to the Garamantes known to the Greeks and Romans and that they had extensive contact with Nubia to their east. The article suggests the Tibu have been important in Chadian history, but doesn't detail their links to the Zaghawa dynasty that ruled Kanem. I'm hesitant to add too many historical details - esp. involving Greco-Roman connections - on the basis of Victorian British sociology, but someone should be able to expand this article with more modern research. -LlywelynII (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Were they Jewish before they became Muslim? "La religion - Avant 1230 avant JC, les Toubous pratiquent la religion du dieu du soleil, ensuite le judaïsme de 1230 avant JC jusqu'au 8ème siècle , et depuis la religion majoritaire est l'Islam." http://www.tibesti.org/presentation/2.htm This site confirms the Garamante connection. "Le mélange des peuples Garamantes et Nubiens donne naissance au Tedas." Nubians must be a mistake for Numidians, a common confusion. Mike Nassau (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal[edit]

I propose merging the stubs Teda people and Daza people into Toubou people#Teda and Daza. Thoughts? --M4gnum0n (talk) 15:43, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed[edit]

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DNA[edit]

No DNA studies? СЛУЖБА (talk) 00:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above editor has just volunteered to do some work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

tambem achei pobre o artigo devia ter algo sobre o dna pois parece um povo saheliano — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.83.197.237 (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Remarks in the English Wikipedia should be in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 09:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above seems to be in Portuguese. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.15.21.214 (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Population contradiction?[edit]

Regarding the Teda, the text currently says "...while the Teda are only 42,000" and later "They number more than 50,000". I say leave it in: presumably it reflects two sources. Removing just one would give false accuracy, and removing both would be misleading (as presumably they reflect two genuine estimates). Or perhaps replace with "estimates vary, some saying 42,000, some saying more than 5,000" ? 2.96.20.250 (talk) 16:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has removed this altogether, instead putting 750,000. However, the small number was not wrong altogether. The point is that the term "Teda" has two meanings - the smaller one (They live in the north of Chad, but not on the border, instead immediately to the north of the Daza. And it were only this small group who traditionally called themselves "Teda".) And there is a larger (only used in science) meaning of "Teda", that also includes another, much larger group from Libya who call themselves "Tibbu" (after whom scientists named the whole grouping), and whose dialect is rather close (separated just 400 years ago) to the small Teda. Here is a good picture, but in Russian. --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 20:29, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Genetics[edit]

The genetics section has been fixed. Previously, it had incorrect numbers for the haplogroups and had an unsourced and nonsensical section about the Toubou being the "the Qaraan" and related to the LBK. I removed the nonsense and fixed the numbers from the cited article. It should be noted that the numbers for Y-chromosomes are found in the supplemental data https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0002929716304487-mmc1.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.191.1.209 (talk) 00:07, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

English[edit]

There's some truly awful English in this article. Many of the sentences appear to be the result of clumsy edits that leave parts of two sentences glued together, or half-sentences with no main verb. The task of fixing this is daunting, and I prefer to concentrate on subjects I know something about; so I'm not going to wade in.

MrDemeanour (talk) 17:25, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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