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I am patrolling major OEMs for a need of Spring Cleaning. The article looks pretty good AFAIC, but needs a little work. Some of the issues have been mentioned above and have been pending for a year.
As for the Recall issue mentioned above by Bjenks and Stepho : It really sticks out that this article has Recalls prominently listed as a chapter of the same weight as Finacial Results, and before History, products etc. IMO, that is giving the matter undue weight. I checked some other major OEMs for a complete "Recall" chapter, and this is what I found:
|Nissan||yes (under current developments)|
As we know, other car companies also have their share of recalls. This makes it look as if they don't. I think, listing every recall of every company is not what an encyclopedia should do. If we list recalls at all, they belong in a possible "Controversies" chapter that should, in Toyota's case, touch on the UA saga, which should be mentioned as a part of Toyota's history. Also, Japanese automakers should have a short chapter on the impact of the tsunami, the Thai flood, the Yen, and possibly the China riots. Thoughts? BsBsBs (talk) 16:34, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed. Such a focus on the recalls really feels like old news by now. Mr.choppers | ✎ 06:57, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with the idea but don't have much time to do it myself. The recalls section can be blown away entirely with a short mention added to History of Toyota instead (with a link to 2009–2010 Toyota vehicle recalls from the history article). Likewise, the tsunami would go in the history article - in 10 years time it will not be thought of as a significant, company changing event (in-spite of the tragedy for those involved). 22:56, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- I started the belated Spring cleaning and made the edits as discussed above. I moved the recalls to history, with a pointer to the main (and lengthy) recall article. As Nissan would be the lone major maker with a recall chapter, I guess I get rid of that there also.
Comment about production and sales data
I have done a little updating of current financial and production data. When editing production and sales data of TMC, please be aware of an oddity that is a source of confusion, and that causes even very respectable (and allegedly reliable) sources to publish wrong data.
In its financial (quarterly, annual etc.) results, TMC reports data on a consolidated basis, i.e. incl Daihatsu and Hino, but excluding joint ventures. Joint ventures are recognized under the equity method. This causes very precise Toyota to NOT recognize sales and production of Chinese joint ventures in their FINANCIAL data. Toyota assumes that journalists know this, this assumption often proves wrong.
Correct GLOBAL sales and production data can be found in TMC's monthly reports. Here is the one for calendar 2012: http://www2.toyota.co.jp/en/news/13/01/0128.html
Usually known, but worth mentioning: TMC is on a fiscal year from April to March. Financial data, also for sales and production, refers to the Fiscal Year period, the monthly reports refer to calendar year.
Because this tends to occasionally throw off even most established wire services such as Bloomberg, Dow Jones etc., I recommend to rely only on the proper publications by TMC. BsBsBs (talk) 14:42, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
The sole citation in the "Marketing" > "Japan" section is written in Japanese, so I am inserting a sectional template, as there are no other citations in the section. If non-English citations are acceptable, please let me know with an explanation. Thank you.--Soulparadox (talk) 06:14, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- WP:NOENG says that English references are preferred but non-English references can be used if English references are not available. The section could certainly use more references but deleting the one it had wasn't useful. Another user and myself have some plans to move and expand that section to an article of its own - with proper references from both English and Japanese sources. 06:30, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that translate.google.com and many other translation sites easily translate Japanese websites into awful but (mostly) understandable English. 06:41, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Should the current rash of vandalism continue, then I recommend semi-protection of the article. It would allow only registered users to edit the articles, and would lock out IPs.BsBsBs (talk) 15:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
- Reluctantly, I agree. 13:04, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
>> Toyota Recalls More Than 6 Million Vehicles WorldwideLihaas (talk) 14:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Current new News
Headline-1: Toyota Moving U.S. Sales HQ to Texas from California
QUOTE: "http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2014/04/28/toyota-to-move-us-sales-hq-to-texas-from-california/" -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 17:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC) -- PS:FYI for future editing.
Toyota's highest volume as of August ....
I have removed "As of August 2014[update], Toyota's highest volume of sales has been in the USA, followed by Japan, China, Indonesia and Thailand..." This was done for various reasons:
- The cited stat was for the Toyota BRAND. This article is about the Toyota Group (TMC), and all stats are Group stats, i.e. including Lexus, Daihatsu, Hino, et al.
- On a Group level, the statement simply is not true:
- Jan-July Toyota Group sales in the U.S. were 1,381,409 units.
- Jan-July Toyota Group registrations in Japan were 1,420,468 units.
- Even if it were true, we do not chase monthly stats.
- I contribute the article with aim to describe the most Toyota countries sales. Toyota is means all the subsidiaries, including Daihatsu and so on if any. Sales of USA and Japan maybe different by a small amount, so it is difficult to say which one is the most, so I think is better to wait until end of 2014 to see the truth, but position of China, Indonesia and Thailand are predicted fix, because the differents among them are significant. Thank you so much for your attention.Gsarwa (talk) 17:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)