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This article is written in New Zealand English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, realise, analyse, centre, fiord) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Text and/or other creative content from Tramper was copied or moved into Tramping in New Zealand with this edit on 21 March 2012. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

On 28 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Tramping in New Zealand to Hiking in New Zealand. The result of the discussion was moved.

Hut etiquette[edit]

I removed the unreferenced section on hut etiquette but another editor put it back. While a referenced sentence or two on hut etiquette is probably a good idea a long list of what constitutes good etiquette is not needed. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 03:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there another place where Hut Etiquette it could go? Maybe Tramping in NZ could be expanded in to a larger subject with further sub-headings, e.g. terrain, weather, regions, safety, clubs and organisations, skills, ecology. mccrora, 29 June 2010 Mccrora (talk) 10:17, 29 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccrora (talk • contribs) 10:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Have to agree with Alan. The list of hut etiquette is interesting and amusing, but written too informal, original research, unreferenced and not really necessary. A referenced paragraph covering the main points should suffice. Maybe from here AIRcorn (talk) 02:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

I propose merging Tramper into this article. The articles cover essentially the same material--a special treatment of tramping in New Zealand.Scientific29 (talk) 08:11, 21 December 2011 (UTC) Completing the merger Scientific29 (talk) 00:59, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 March 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 13:53, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tramping in New Zealand → Hiking in New Zealand – Per MOS:COMMONALITY, WP:COMMONNAME, WP:RECOGNIZABILITY and WP:CONSISTENT. Hiking is the common name for this topic while tramping is comparatively obscure, making it more recognizable and consistent with our parent article on this topic. TIES, the argument for the current title, is overruled here by MOS:COMMONALITY, and doesn't apply in any case; considering only results from New Zealand news sites in the past month, hiking is more common than Tramping, with 49 results (excluding the 43 results for unrelated topics, such as "hiking taxes") vs 38 for tramping. BilledMammal (talk) 07:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe opt for a neutral title, as used in Walking in the United Kingdom, which, as noted in the article, could be 'Rambling'? It has its own Category:Walking by country.Johnragla (talk) 08:54, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why wouldn't hiking be a neutral title? I also think the scope of this article is narrower than the scope of that article; this article is limited to walks in rough country, while the UK article covers walking generally, meaning that "Walking in New Zealand" would be insufficiently WP:PRECISE. BilledMammal (talk) 08:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hiking's not neutral because it's little used in New Zealand. Looking at the names of groups that go walking, only 3 use the name Hiking, whereas 218 have Walk in their title, 42 Tramp and 6 Ramble. Johnragla (talk) 07:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The term "hiking" is also used in New Zealand English, and the main article is located at Hiking. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination, additional comment by BilledMammal and "support" vote by Rreagan007. The WP:CONSISTENT argument is confirmed by entries under Category:Hiking by country. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.