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Devil and Daniel Webster[edit]

Actually the Devil and Daniel Webster gets parodied. I thought they said James Coco went nuts in Hell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enda80 (talkcontribs)

  • A demon says James Coco went mad after 15 minutes {of this punishment}
  • A more dire fate is in hand for Homer-not only does he being eating his own donut head-but outside the entire Springfield Police Force is waiting for him-with cups of coffee! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.126.88 (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

The Devil[edit]

I deleted the sentence stating that the devil is blue in this episode. This is false because the devil is Ned Flanders (and he is red). The blue demon is just some guy working in hell.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.0.106 (talkcontribs)

Lose the trivia section[edit]

Please see WP:Trivia and Wikipedia:Avoid trivia sections in articles L0b0t 02:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, does Kang and Kodos appear in this thing?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.242.97 (talkcontribs)

Yes, during the middle segment, commenting on the gremlin from their Spaceship.--Steven X (talk) 11:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

vampires not zombies[edit]

The creatures that get Bart in bart simpsons dracula are vampires. They are clearly vampires as they have two, long teeth which are used to bite necks, like other vampires. End of argument. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.145.241.105 (talk) 23:09, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

Paintings?[edit]

How about adding to Trivia what paintings are parodied in the film? I don't know their names but I think it would be a good thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Daw (talkcontribs) 17:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Cultural references[edit]

I removed these unsourced cultural references from the article for now:

  • "The Devil and Homer Simpson" segment is a parody of the Stephen Vincent Benét short story "The Devil and Daniel Webster", where a man sells his soul to the devil and Daniel Webster must represent him in court before a jury of the damned. In the story, Daniel Webster tells the devil that he's disappointed that General Benedict Arnold isn't on the jury, to which the devil replies that Arnold is busy with other matters. Both of these stories also showcase a loose translation of the Faust legend.
  • The ironic punishment section of the episode, where Homer is fed all the doughnuts in the world--and asks for more, despite the dwindling supply, is a direct parody of the Merrie Melodies cartoon Pigs is Pigs where a generic pig character known for being a glutton is taken in by a scientist and forced to eat all the food in the world. According to an interview, Matt Groening cited Pigs is Pigs as his favorite cartoon because of the food torture sequence.
  • After Homer does not suffer from being stuffed with doughnuts, a demon says the obese actor James Coco did suffer.
  • The inclusion of the 1976 Philadelphia Flyers on a jury chosen by the devil himself is perhaps inspired by the said team's salient win over the Soviet Union's dominant Central Red Army team in which an unwhistled bodycheck from one of the Flyers prompted all of the Soviet's to leave the ice in protest for a brief period. Rugged style of play was a noted characteristic of the Flyer's play for three years unto this point.
  • In "Bart Simpson's Dracula", the shadow Mr. Burns casts against the wall when he welcomes the Simpsons in his castle is a reference to a similar famous scene in the classic vampire film Nosferatu by F.W. Murnau.
  • In "Bart Simpson's Dracula", Bart is seen floating outside Lisa's bedroom window. This is a parody of The Lost Boys as well as Stephen King's novel ’Salem's Lot. The family's plan to kill the head vampire is also a reference to both movies. In particular, the twist revelation that Burns isn't the head vampire is also a reference to the twist ending of The Lost Boys.
  • In the same segment, the sequence where Bart flies through Lisa's window is repeated twice from different angles, as an homage to the style of the television adaptation Count Dracula starring Louis Jourdan.
  • The gallery paintings are spoofs of several famous works, primarily from the 20th century. In order of appearance: unidentified work, showing Marge's shadow; Homer replacing Vincent Van Gogh in his "Self Portrait"; Maggie at the center of The Persistence of Memory by Salvador Dali; Homer chasing Bart in the stairs of Ascending and Descending by M. C. Escher; Lisa replacing the main subject in The Scream by Edvard Munch, Homer replacing the murder victim in Jacques-Louis David's The Death of Marat, Lisa as the main subject in Woman Playing the Mandolin by Pablo Picasso, Bart replacing the main subject in The Son of Man by René Magritte, and "A Friend in Need" from the series Dogs Playing Poker by Cassius Marcellus Coolidge.
  • The end credits music is a The Addams Family version of the Simpsons theme, only played with the instruments used for the Munsters theme.
  • This is the last Treehouse of Horror episode that is set up in a way that it could be considered canon.

"...and even the dreaded 'Rear Admiral'."[edit]

is that an actual schoolyard prank? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.235.132.219 (talk) 01:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Conan Image Redux[edit]

Not sure what happened to the original discussion of this but I removed the image again, I went through quite a few Simpsons and other TV Episodes and the only other time I've seen a producer have a picture up is Bart_Gets_Famous (Oddly enough Conan O'Brian again) and while that notes that he's a (former) writer for the Simpsons his picture is there because he was a guest star on the episode. I'm not sure if it's actually written into the style guidelines but there isn't really a reason to add the Producer's picture (or even name unless naming all producers of a given episode) unless it is in some way notable and him just "being" Conan O'Brian is a far cry from that. Cat-five - talk 19:02, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

You didn't go through enough articles: The Joy of Sect, The Great Wife Hope, King-Size Homer, Lady Bouvier's Lover, $pringfield (Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Legalized Gambling), Two Bad Neighbors, Bart Sells His Soul, Lisa vs. Malibu Stacy, Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily, Marge in Chains, Grampa vs. Sexual Inadequacy, The Day the Violence Died, Sweet Seymour Skinner's Baadasssss Song, Bart vs. Australia, Lisa the Vegetarian, And Maggie Makes Three, Bart's Girlfriend, The PTA Disbands, Team Homer, The Last Temptation of Homer, Secrets of a Successful Marriage, I Love Lisa, A Star Is Burns, Colonel Homer, Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington, Lisa the Greek, Lisa's Pony, Lisa's Substitute, When Flanders Failed, Lisa's Pony, Marge Be Not Proud, Lisa on Ice, Two Dozen and One Greyhounds, A Star is Burns, Treehouse of Horror V, Lisa the Skeptic, Bart the Mother, Much Apu About Nothing and probably a bunch of others. Either way, you should never delete or remove something simply because other pages don't do it. Are you sure you don't just have something against Conan? -- Scorpion0422 19:14, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Also, Conan is the writer of the episode, not the producer. Most episode articles include an image of the writer. Theleftorium 19:16, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I stand corrected and apologizing for removing it, on the topic of everyone else doing it, the general style should be at least similar for articles of the same type like this so it makes sense that if it is the norm to have pictures of producers or writers (both seem to be featured on different episode articles) then we should endeavor to add them to articles that don't yet have proper pictures. Cat-five - talk 23:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

cultural reference[edit]

added this:

  • The demon who is feeding Homer donuts says: "I don't understand it. James Coco went mad in fifteen minutes!"[1] James Coco was a character known in the 1970s...He parodied the Belgian sleuth Hercule Poirot, penned by Agatha Christie. In the movie, James Coco’s character throws a volley of subtle food jokes. In his last years, Coco received attention for his culinary talents and best-selling cookbooks. The James Coco Diet, an educational book which included chapters on menu planning and behavior modification as well as choice recipes), was just one that he promoted on the talk show circuit. It is probably not a coincidence that he often played characters with extreme food issues.[2]

Igottheconch (talk) 21:24, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

  1. ^ ‘Treehouse of Horror IV’ script, Simpson Crazy.
  2. ^ The Simpsons offers Homer Donut Hell, Fried Donut Ho