Talk:Tripartite Convention

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Bismarck and the Berlin Treaty

Given that Bismarck died in 1898, *a year before this treaty*, and had in any case been removed from office in 1890, I rather think he wouldn't have had much use for the western Samoan islands. Have updated the article with Bulow instead, as the German foreign secretary at the time (and the one who did all the work given that Hohenlohe the chancellor was something of a non-entity at this time). 172.209.33.130 19:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, the sources I used did not mention those facts. I'm assuming they were left out because they were written by non-German authors who might have been more focused on the outcome of the Treaty rather than the leaders of Germany at the exact time that it was ratified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wprocter (talkcontribs) 23:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Colonialist POV[edit]

"The lack of Samoan customs for electing a new king lead to the Samoan civil war in 1898. It was then obvious that the best solution would be a partitioning of Samoa between Germany, the United States, and England."

"Obvious"? Seriously? --Jfruh (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Fiction?[edit]

In my library on colonial matters I have found no reference to a Treaty of Berlin (1899). Therefore, it is my opinion that this page is dubious. There was an Anglo-German Agreement on Samoa negotiated at London and signed on 14 November 1899; followed by the Tripartite Convention (United States, Germany, Great Britain) which partitioned the Samoan Islands and was signed at Washington on 2 December 1899 with ratifications exchanged on 16 February 1900. In my view, the most exhaustive source covering these events is:

  • Ryden, George Herbert. The Foreign Policy of the United States in Relation to Samoa. New York: Octagon Books, 1975. 634 pages. (Reprint by special arrangement with Yale University Press. Originally published at New Haven: Yale University Press, 1928.)

Unless an editor can cite a reputable source for something called “Treaty of Berlin (1899),” a review, renaming and rewrite to remove the blather seems to be in order.

--Gamahler (talk) 17:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

No reaction. Will attempt the obvious for this page: rename, rewrite.--Gamahler (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)