Talk:Troll (Internet)

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Difference between Trolling, Spam, and Flaming[edit]

This article is very anti troll. It is biased and does not contain any legitimate research or qualified definitions. The piece in it's entirety should be stricken off and start again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.14.213 (talk) 02:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)


I find the introductory paragraph to be a bit misleading: "In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community..." Posting inflammatory remarks is usually referred to as flaming Flaming (Internet). It's a much finer line than between trolling and Spam. Trolling is designed to provoke people whereas spam is troublesome and uncreative. The second definition on Urban Dictionary states that "Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame." followed by "Trolling requires deceiving; any trolling that doesn't involve deceiving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid." It think a change to a more accurate initial description is in order perhaps just removing the phrases 'inflammatory' and 'off-topic'. Twinleaf (talk) 17:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

There used to be a distinction from Griefer, in that trolling was harmless fun, just to provoke discussion or a helpful response, not even to cause offence. --195.137.93.171 (talk) 08:05, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I said this before. Trolling is a deception. It is absolutely not "accidental" The definition is wrong but they won't change it due to wikilaw. NYT definitions trump urban dictionary i'm afraid.222.210.234.55 (talk) 11:11, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request : Psychology[edit]

I would like to rename the "Psychological characteristics of trolls" section to simply "Psychology" for because it is more professional, as well as add some explanation about the psychology of trolling. I wouldn't call it "original research" since it simply follows from logic.

Specifically, I will make a concise paragraph explaining that trolling is typically done for laughs, which makes sense since trolling is derived from another common type of humor--prank humor, and internet trolling is very similar to phone pranks, or prank TV shows.

A troll is essentially acting in a role in order to provoke a response from people, the same as many prank TV shows, such as The Jamie Kennedy Experiment, or Punk'd. In these shows, actors will behave in ways which defy social norms of decency, which is also essentially what happens in sitcom tv shows.

I will also explain, that while humor is often the prime motivator, it is not always the only motivator, and that trolling is often also motivated by anger, jealousy, and hate.

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 02:29, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
Also note that you should include independent reliable sources to support the material you wish added. You can't just mention TV shows that you believe act in particular roles - you need to cite sources that say that those TV shows act in those roles. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:07, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 June 2014[edit]

Ann Coulter should be added as an example of Trolling. 107.15.168.153 (talk) 21:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 21:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 July 2014[edit]

This article lists ways in which people troll. I noticed that there is at least one way that the writer of this article forgot to include. People can troll by simply bringing up an unwanted fact or a logical argument that contradicts a groups belief system. For example, I troll religious people by going into YouTube videos about god and religion and making a very friendly comment highlighting illogical or contradictory parts of scripture. In this way there is no need to use hostile language or divert from the topic at hand. Trolling can be done by asking a friendly and genuine question if asked amongst a group of fundamentalists. 6Puppies (talk) 17:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. First, there is no actual request here. Second, I'm guessing that this would fall under WP:BEANS, so it will likely die here on the talk page. Happy editing elsewhere! — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Usenet group alt.just.trolling is a example of trolling. 69.178.195.28 (talk) 22:27, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Another use of T.R.O.L.L.[edit]

Does the information in another Wikipedia article fit anywhere in this article?

"In an attempt to demonstrate the perils of over-reliance on the internet as authority, the Mikkelsons assembled a series of fabricated urban folklore tales that they term "The Repository of Lost Legends".[1] The name was chosen for its acronym, T.R.O.L.L., a reference to the early 1990s definition of the word troll, meaning an Internet prank, of which David Mikkelson was a prominent practitioner.[2]" -- ~~

  1. ^ "Urban Legends Reference Page: Lost Legends". Retrieved 9 June 2006.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Porter was invoked but never defined (see the help page).