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Another use of T.R.O.L.L.[edit]

Does the information in another Wikipedia article fit anywhere in this article?

"In an attempt to demonstrate the perils of over-reliance on the internet as authority, the Mikkelsons assembled a series of fabricated urban folklore tales that they term "The Repository of Lost Legends".[1] The name was chosen for its acronym, T.R.O.L.L., a reference to the early 1990s definition of the word troll, meaning an Internet prank, of which David Mikkelson was a prominent practitioner.[2]" -- ~~

References

  1. ^ "Urban Legends Reference Page: Lost Legends". Retrieved 9 June 2006.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Porter was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

Etymology of Internet (Usenet) trolling: rec.humor vs. rec.humor.funny.[edit]

An early example of trolling was the ongoing anarchic behaviour in rec.humor, where someone would give a well-known joke, but quite obviously stuff up the punchline. This would provoke howls of outrage and multiple correction posts from people who didn't know that the group was regularly disrupted in this fashion, and the intent of the originator was to provoke a response, and almost always not a genuine mistake.

I believe that this dynamic was part of the reason that rec.humor.funny, a moderated group, was formed. Brad Templeton, the creator/moderator of rec.humor.funny, may be able to shed more light on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.2.61.216 (talk) 11:53, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

troololololollol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.89.250.54 (talk) 14:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Russia just founded a new category of trolling: Institutionalized trolling[edit]

Trolling as a part of politics is here. Look at the article and the discussion and please consider making it a part of the article.

http://itar-tass.com/en/russia/773830 https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/2ty5c6/head_of_russian_duma_calls_to_officialy_condemn/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.35.201.197 (talk) 12:30, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Early non-Internet related slang[edit]

> Early non-Internet related slang use of trolling for actions deliberately performed to provoke a reaction can be found in the military: by 1972 the term trolling for MiGs was documented in use by US Navy pilots in Vietnam.

I'm pretty sure trolling in this sense was directly related to the fishing-based term. The jets in question were the bait, flying through the sky in hopes of drawing out MiGS much as lures were used to draw out fish. I don't think this was a precursor to the Internet-based definition of the word.

The Dharmatist (talk) 02:02, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 24 March 2015[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 09:51, 31 March 2015 (UTC)


Troll (Internet)Internet trollWP:NATURAL disambiguation is always preferred, when available. There is no reason to have two extra characters here, i.e. the parentheses (WP:CONCISE). – RGloucester 04:38, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Definition is very ambiguous[edit]

Currently is says troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

The part before the first comma is a problem. "sowing discord" can't be called trolling: what if this is a controversial topic, and people are, say 70/30% split? So this automatically makes 30% trolls, because they will "upset" 70% by just expressing their legitimate opinion. This doesn't make sense. Also how is "starting argument" appropriate? Ex. one of these 30% of participants says something that he truly believes, and others will react in a fashion of a vehement disagreement. So this original poster will automatically become a troll, because the argument started from his OP. This also doesn't make sense.

Definition should say Troll is a person who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) primarily with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response, or otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Yurivict (talk) 00:17, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

No, because, in your example, the 30% are not acting with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. Their intent is to make relevant points. N4m3 (talk) 00:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)