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[edit] Publically traded companies

Should the other publicly traded companies with headquarters in Tucson should be added to the economy page. I think they are Imarx Therapeutic, Unisource Energy, Ionatron Inc & Providence Services Corporation, but I might be missing some. --Tucson Indigo (talk) 02:29, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pizza

I heard you can get Chicago-style deep dish pizza even in Tucson! Is this true? If so, it probably should be added to the article. Bearerofthecup (talk) 18:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, at Rocco's and Zachary's. (Rocco's also has the best wings in town.)75.164.25.240 (talk) 02:18, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish place-name

Although Tucson is an Indian place-name, the Spaniard colonial fort was known as San Agustín de Tuguison. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 09:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crime?

Um...I heard this place is kinda dangerous. 24.141.47.50 (talk) 18:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

What qualifies as dangerous? I think most people who live in Tucson don't feel that way, but dangerous is in the fear of the beholder. Stats here: [1]. Cretog8 (talk) 19:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, depends on where you live. Please reply.Solowing106 --Solowing106 (talk) 01:09, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Tucson Metropolitan Area

The Tucson Metropolitan article should be re-created 72.200.84.247 (talk) 00:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The meaning of the word

The article lacks a citation for the meaning of the word "Tucson." Please, whoever wrote the claim, add a citation. The historian and writer of the Southwest USA, Edwin Corle, states the name of the city was Stjukshon which means "The Place Where the Water is Dark," or "Land of the Dark-water Spring." --Desertphile (talk) 01:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Tohono O'Odham meaning Spring at the base of the black mountain —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharkbait60 (talkcontribs) 01:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

It means neither - both of you are suffering from Native American Name Disorder, meaning simple names are expanded unreasonably. It means "black base". Saying it means "Land of the dark-water spring" is like saying New River, Arizona's name means "Land of the not-old flowing water". --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 14:17, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Rename to 'Tucson'

Most cities just give the name of the city in the article without the state. Phoenix has a million things it can be confused with (like the bird) so it's good that Phoenix's article is called "Phoenix, Arizona". Tucson, Arizona however, is not likely to be confused with other cities of the same name (if they even exist). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.19.107 (talk) 02:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I disagree ... I just quickly looked up Phoenix, and it goes by Phoenix, Arizona ... why is Tuscon special? Are there any other name-only American cities? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.22.63.1 (talk) 14:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't know why they say Tucson, Arizona. But the Beatles used it that way in their song 'Get Back': "Jojo left his home in Tucson, Arizona...". In the Italian Wikipedia, they added this quote to the article. I was suprised that it's not in this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.247.216.210 (talk) 13:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

[edit] time to split

the geography section (includes climate as well) has ballooned quite enormously, and much of the information is perhaps not necessary for the main article on the city. I first suggest copying all of the information within that section. What to do with the information in the main article is to the discretion to this discussion. ---华钢琴49 (TALK) 02:50, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move request withdrawn, non-admin closure. kotakkasut 21:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


Tucson, ArizonaTucson — Tucson already redirects here. The name 'Tucson' is always associated with the city in Arizona. Feel free to discuss! Signed, kotakkasut 05:40, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

  • Oppose. Settled convention is that only the cities listed at WP:PLACE#United States are eligible for exceptions from the general rule of [[City, State]]. Tucson is not on the list. This is done for reasons of consistency and predictability, with an exception for the most famous cities. Powers T 13:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Comment The [[city, state]] format is designated so that cities with the same name can be disambiguated. Eg. Athens, Alabama and Athens, Georgia. This is not in the case as there is only one Tucson, which is in Arizona. kotakkasut 14:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
    • Actually, for the United States, we decided some time ago that most cities are commonly known by the full "city, state" identifier, if you look at common usage on a national basis. A few cities are not, and do not take the state name even when referenced from the other side of the country; those cities (as determined by the AP stylebook) are listed at WP:PLACE#United States. Tucson is not among them; Associated Press articles with a dateline in Tucson will say "TUCSON, Ariz." See, for instance, this recent AP article. Powers T 16:55, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
      • Woah, didn't realize that, thanks for the info Powers! I think I should withdraw this request later on... kotakkasut 21:10, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Ventana Medical systems page missing

It's a pretty big employer in Tucson, but its page is missing on Wikipedia. I searched for it via google, but the link was deleted. I wish someone could add a new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.135.19.26 (talk) 23:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Solar Energy

I strongly disagree with the fallowing statement:

"Tucson is considered to be in a natural location for the development of a solar energy community, but the city has not yet adopted solar power in any significant way."

While Tucson isn't the solar capital of the world it has made a lot of progress over the last few years with many homes and communities using solar energy and well as large solar projects, especially with the University of Arizona, that have been completed or are currently being developed.

Some examples of recent solar advances in the area:

http://www.azpm.org/news/story/2011/4/26/1654-solar-energy-rises-in-southern-arizona/

http://azstarnet.com/business/local/article_d2ade3c7-9752-5428-b7dc-24598f65d811.html

http://wildcat.arizona.edu/news/solar-panels-prepare-ua-for-green-future-1.1079892 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaumond (talkcontribs) 09:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

In that case the section should be geared towards addressing Tuscon's progressive moves to embracing solar enegy while simultaneously rising prominence in the solar energy industry. 08OceanBeachS.D. 19:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Yup. And I should know. I LIVE HERE! Solowing106 Solowing106 (talk) 01:03, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Tucson in popular culture

Seems like a section or page similar to Cultural depictions of Philadelphia would be interesting.Geo8rge (talk) 23:14, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Jan. 8 2011

Hey, Ive commented 3 times now, since Tucson is my hometown. Shouldn't the headline-indicated shooting be included?


Solowing106 (talk) 01:11, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Question about "Tuscon" redirect

I just went around and corrected several instances of misspelling throughout Wikipedia. Because this is a commonly misspelled word, I think it's not really wise to have the redirect - it leads authors who misspell the word to not notice their error. If "Tuscon, Arizona" were a red link, people would realize that something has gone wrong.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 09:48, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Redirects are supposed to help users navigate. While most users would probably eventually try an another spelling, it seems to me that leaving [[Tuscon, Arizona]] as a red link rather than a redirect would be kind of annoying. I think we should be more concerned with helping users find the information they want (and "Tucson, Arizona" is the most likely intended target for "Tuscon, Arizona") than with tweaking them about their spelling. -- Donald Albury 11:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Is there an actual use for the word "Tuscon", beyond this one? Perhaps we have a bot that could change any use of "Tuscon" or "Tuscon, Arizona" to "Tucson" or "Tucson, Arizona" respectively. This preserves the redirect, which may have some value, but also fixes the name itself. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 13:17, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
There is TusCon. "Tuscon" by itself could be a typo/mispelling for "Tucson", "TusCon" or Tuscan. Note that we also have redirects for "Tuscon Mall", "Tuscon Unified School District" and "Tuscon Massacre", but not for a number of other articles that begin with "Tucson". -- Donald Albury 21:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Schools

There is now a long, loooong list of primary and secondary schools in the article. Most great cities do not get into this sort of detail about schools. Also, lists within articles are generally deprecated (ref: WP:EMBED: "Presenting too much statistical data in list format is against policy"). So I think that we should either: a) eliminate the list of primary and secondary schools, or b) create a subarticle called "List of primary and secondary schools in Tucson." Comments? Sunray (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I vote for deletion, as I think it gets into minutia and people get irritated when "their" school isn't there thus adding and adding more, but I'm sure they will start creeping in again over time. I'm not sure how one would decide whether or not Tucson qualifies as a "great" city, but since many of the other "city pages" that I watch also has a list of schools, I suggest a second page be created with a list of schools. Alternately, the Wichita, Kansas page has a narrative about the schools that boils it all down to 2-3 paragraphs that hits the highlights. I think this is a pretty good option. Ckruschke (talk) 14:09, 5 January 2012 (UTC)Ckruschke
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