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Contents 1 Carlos Castaneda 2 Proposal to merge with "Thoughtform" 3 External links failing WP:ELNO and sources failing WP:RS 3.1 rywiki.tsadra.org wiki 3.2 anandgholap.net 3.3 swami-center.org

[edit] Carlos Castaneda

It should perhaps be noted that there is dispute over whether or not Castaneda's books are genuine. I would suggest make it more clear, instead of implying that Castaneda actually did create a Tulpa. It's not a legend, it's a contemporary work of fiction or non-fiction, depending on who you talk to. Dead Horse 18:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the fiction tag and made some changes to reflect that some of his claims have been disputed.(Ghostexorcist 22:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC))

Many thanks Dead Horse 01:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to merge with "Thoughtform"

I've observed that both articles cover pretty much the same topics, and even use both terms interchangeably almost all the time. Also, subsections concerning any of the terms are intermixed within both articles. I guess it would be sensible to merge those two and integrate all that properly, while removing duplicate information. I'm not sure which should be merget into which, so I'll leave that open to debate. There is also a possibility to sort both texts not to include duplicate materials, and those belonging to the other one... arny (talk) 11:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] External links failing WP:ELNO and sources failing WP:RS

Reviewing the external links below, none appear to meet the requirements of WP:ELNO or WP:NOTDIRECTORY. I have included them here for reference or in case anyone wishes to justify why they are a valid external link for this article in compliance with WP:EL:

• Besant, Annie and C. W. Leadbeater. http://www.anandgholap.net/Thought_Forms-AB_CWL.htm Thought Forms. Illinois, USA: The Theosophical Society
• http://www.swami-center.org/en/text/Juan_Matus.html The Teaching of Juan Matus
• http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html Egregore Definition Compilation
• http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/tulpas.html Thought Forms: Paranormal Materializations
• http://home.tiscali.nl/gibbon/exploring/thoughtform-rating-scale.htm Thought Form Rating Scale: On Healthy and Less Healthy Thought Forms
• http://www.swami-center.org/en/text/Juan_Matus.html The Teaching of Juan Matus
• http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/gegregor.html Egregore Definition Compilation

—Ash (talk) 08:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] rywiki.tsadra.org wiki

This is an open wiki and so fails to meet the requirements of WP:RS or WP:ELNO. The site is referenced multiple times in the text of the article. Would anyone care to justify why there is an exception to WP:RS or shall I remove references to this wiki site?—Ash (talk) 08:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] anandgholap.net

This site is the personally registered site of Anand Gholap of Pune, India. He has a disclaimer that he is not responsible for the use of anything on his site (http://www.anandgholap.net/Terms_Of_Use.htm). He makes no special claims of expertise or any affiliation. A number of texts and images from books are on his site but copyright status is uncertain as he does not have specific permission to make these public domain but has added these on the basis of his understanding of copyright law which is not the same as Wikipedia's. His site fails WP:RS and WP:ELNO and should not be used as a reference or link for any article apart from (possibly) an article about himself.—Ash (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] swami-center.org

The site is registered to Mikhail Nikolenko under the organization name of CERN (though there is no valid evidence that this means the well known research organization) and titled "Divine Way of Spiritual Heart". The site's about page (http://swami-center.org/en/text/about_us.html) is rather lengthy but does not make any particularly verifiable special claims of expertise or official status (apart from claiming to have created a new branch of science called "Methodology of Spiritual Development"). They do claim that their publications were created under the "direct guidance of God" but provide no verifiable evidence of God as an approving authority or third party evidence to substantiate this. The site fails WP:RS and WP:ELNO and should not be used as a link or reference on any article not directly about the swami-center.org site or organization.—Ash (talk) 11:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)