Talk:U.S. Route 101 in California

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Unfinished 680SB - 101SB overpass[edit]

Does anybody have any photos of when the overpass was incomplete? I grew up in the area, and I remember for a long time in the mid-70s the overpass from (I think) 680SB to 101SB remained uncompleted, and looked like a giant Stonehenge. Torc 07:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

mergefrom U.S. Route 101#California suggestion[edit]

See the discussion/proposal at Talk:U.S. Route 101#California section. Thanks. --Rkitko 20:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Article name[edit]

Shouldn't this article be located at "U.S. Route 101 in California" per WP:USH? --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 20:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


Redwood Highway is incorrectly treated as the exact same entity as US 101 in California[edit]

The Redwood Highway begins North of San Francisco after the Golden Gate and ends at the Oregon Border. The disambiguation that redirects the Redwood Highway to US 100 in California needs to be eliminated and a separate article or some other method of designation must occur for the sake of accuracy. Norcalal 08:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The dab was turned into the article Redwood Highway in September 2007. The two redirects from [Redwood Highway (California)]] and Redwood Highway (Oregon) pointed here, rather than Redwood Highway. I just pointed them there, but they could probably be Speedy Deletes for anybody who enjoys that.--Hjal (talk) 03:41, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Central Freeway[edit]

I believe that this should be merged into this article. NE2 disagrees, saying it's notable enough for its own article. Thoughts from others? —Scott5114 14:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

The reason I believe it should be merged is because the Central Freeway is part of US 101, and is a stub, and thus would work better being merged here. (Edit the redirect to point to #Central Freeway to tidy everything up.) —Scott5114 22:17, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

  • It's pointless to merge just because of the current state of the article; it will not always be a stub. I also believe the torn down (decommissioned, in its actual meaning) part was never US 101. --NE2 00:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
    • And I believe the exact opposite; who's to say it won't always be a stub? I say merge it for now, let it develop in the US 101 article, then split it back out when it's actually a decent article, if/when that time comes. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 05:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
      • The controversy and sources say it won't be a stub. --NE2 05:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
        • You keep commenting on what could be, when I've already admitted that my thought process doesn't work that way... --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 06:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
          • Maybe you should think that way; there's no point in merging just to undo the merge in the future. I may see what I can do with the article, though I'm doing some NYC work right now. --NE2 06:10, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
            • And I think there is a point to it. I will never comment on a merge based on what can be written, if for no other reason than the fact that I don't have the time or the desire to research every random article that pops up. The only way that I can comment on a merge is by going on what I see, and editors making claims as to why the merge shouldn't be done yet making no improvements to the article to distinguish it from its proposed merge target aren't really helping. --TMF Let's Go Mets - Stats 06:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Do you believe me now? --NE2 01:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
  • I believe it should stay separate if for the simple fact that not all of the Central Freeway is signed as US 101. The section from 101 to Octavia is not signed as any numbered freeway. Gateman1997 00:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Do you know who maintains this part? The infobox currently states that the city does, but I doubt that. --NE2 01:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
      • I'm assuming the state since they paid for the entire rebuild to Octavia. Gateman1997 02:00, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The 101[edit]

The only external link at the time this comment was written is to an article about "The 101," and not about Highway 101 in general. The article on Interstate 405 mentions its colloquial appellation of "the 405" but the article on Highway 101 doesn't mention "the 101," what it means, what section it refers to, or how it came to be called that. For a term that sounds quite normal in some areas and very strange in others, I think some sort of mention of its existence is warranted. I know of at least one official sign in southern California that says "101 Freeway" but is there a section of the road that at any point is officially called "The 101 Freeway?" Hagrinas (talk) 19:30, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Airborne public radio traffic reporters for California cities often use shortened sentence structure from two-way radio communication procedures to identify their observations on major commuter routes by names like "the Nimitz Freeway" shortened to "the Nimitz" or "the (number)" where the highway is better known locally by a number rather than a name. I doubt the phraseology has "official" standing, but the radio reporting style has become widely used when giving directions, or at other times when context makes it clear the adjective refers to a highway.Thewellman (talk) 03:17, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Merges[edit]

The Hollywood Freeway and Ventura Freeway include portions that are not US 101, and should not be merged. The Hollywood Freeway especially has a long history, including the Cahuenga Parkway, the second freeway in California. --NE2 01:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

The Santa Ana Freeway should not be merged either. --Son (talk) 23:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

US 101 Ends at Interstate 5, US 60 AND Interstate 10.[edit]

Not sure where folks get the idea that I10 is not at the terminus, but it most definitely is...along with the others. Check your best maps (ie Google Maps). Norcalal 08:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Check more carefully; there's no access between US 101 and I-10. --NE2 20:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
You can get from US 101 Southbound to I-10 East. You can't get to I-10 West from US 101. The exit for California route 60 is prior to the US 101/I-5 merge. Richard Hendricks (talk) 00:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
You can get from US 101 south to I-10 east (and I-10 west to US 101 north), but that's 1.33 miles north of the south end of US 101. --NE2 08:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes you can, the alignment between Hollywood Frwy to i-10 East. you can also get from I-10 West to US 101 North. The Spur 10 or Former i-110 is about 2 miles I guess. I've done this a few times, and once from Universal Studios Hollywood to El Monte.--Freewayguy Msg USC 00:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Control Cities[edit]

CalTrans delegates the list of control cities to each of its districts (see this link). I was unable to find any list of California Control Cities for US 101 on the web. The control cities section should be deleted.Richard Hendricks (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

So NE2 went through and put a orange tag on the control cities section. Golden Gate Br. I beielve is use on control cities sign, i think its mor use on SR 1. Santa Rosa, Hollywood, Ventura is right. Los Angeles is use both north and southbound, and Ventura I believe is use on northbound only I don't know about southbound. i was going from El Monte to Santa Barbara over summer, I don'tseem to pay too much of control cities.--Freewayguy Msg USC 00:14, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Assessment[edit]

This article does have a history section, albeit lacking. Still, I think it's up to C-class. CL — 04:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Not longest highway[edit]

In California, there is no limitation on the use of the term "highway". Really, any road can be a highway. This includes Interstate 5, which is longer within CA's borders than US 101. I suggest removing the length reference from the intro. --Fcsuper (talk) 23:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I stand somewhat corrected, though the source does not explain "length" very well. The I-5 freeway does stretch from the south border to the north border, whereas 101 starts in LA (well within the State's border by about a 3 hour's drive). fcsuper (How's That?, That's How!) (Exclusionistic Immediatist ) 06:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The 101 follows coastal mountains and valleys most of its length, while I5 is mostly flat and straight. Its easy for anyone who has driven both these roads to know why the coastal route is longer, despite starting as much as 2 hours north of the starting point for I5. 06:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I think you might be thinking of highway 1. 101 isn't all that windy...though I guess it doesn't take much to beat out the very boring I5. 101 only takes a couple of major cut-backs (once between SLO and Santa Barbara) and a bit farther north to go through Salinas. It then follows SF pennisula through Golden Gate, but is again, not windy there either.

Sonoma County Construction Citation Request[edit]

on http://dot.ca.gov/dist4/son101/ i found the following statement: "Route 101 from the Earle Street Pedestrian Overcrossing to the Steel Lane Undercrossing and will consist of 3 stages taking place over a 2 ½ year period." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.122.11.192 (talk) 16:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Freeway/Interstate?[edit]

I've noticed over the years that US 101 has been in the process of being converted into a freeway. More recently, I read that it is possible that the highway will be "given" to the Interstate Highway System. Is that true? Can anyone shed some light on the issue? Also, there is no "Future" section to the article. If my question above is true, it should be added to the article. Allen (talk) 19:58, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Can you reliably source this? --Rschen7754 19:59, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Check out Future Interstate Highways. There is a listing for US 101. Allen (talk) 22:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Which is unsourced. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball or a place where people can speculate on whether roads will be built or not. --Rschen7754 22:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I realize it is unsourced. However, that still leaves the issue of why US 101 is being upgraded to a freeway. Allen (talk) 22:49, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Maybe it's being/been upgraded because Caltrans saw a need to handle a greater amount of traffic on the highway? MDOT upgraded several highways to freeway without pursuing Interstate designations (US 31, US 131, US 27/US 127, US 23), and even built a new freeway from the ground up (M-6) without pursuing such a designation. Not all freeways in the US are or have to be Interstates, but all* Interstates have to be freeways. (Yes, there are exceptions, but that's not the general rule.) Imzadi 1979  01:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, all,

The latest in the "freewayization" of Route 101 is the Willits Bypass. This controversial bypass is being inflicted upon residents of Willits and the surrounding Little Lake Valley despite massive local opposition. Browse The Willits News or other Mendocino County details for details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgejdorner (talkcontribs) 15:26, June 3, 2013 (UTC)