Talk:Uber (company)

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This article needs to be improved; it's basically written like an advertisement for Uber. I did some low-hanging fruit edits, but it needs to be properly edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

List of cities[edit]

Someone should probably move the list of cities out to a new section - or maybe to a separate article? The current list is getting waaaay too big for the opening paragraph. --MarkTraceur (talk) 06:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't get it[edit]

after reading the article, i still have no idea what uber is. how is it different from a taxi? is it a taxi that customers hail with a phone app instead of waiving the hand on the street? -- (talk) 18:23, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

It is pretty much a taxi service, but with a different business model than the traditional taxi fleet services which have grown up for ... is it 70 years now? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:52, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

"Different business model" still doesn't quite explain anything. I agree with the initial commenter that the article does nothing to explain how exactly Uber differs from traditional taxis, or what the reasons for the strong opposition to the company are, excluding lack of taxi licenses for its drivers. (talk) 04:19, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


I know little about it and am not particularly interested in Uber, but this article appears to be dominated by some people who are antagonistic to the company. WP:NPOV needs to be maintained.

Despite my removal of "controversial" from the very beginning of the lede the company is, in fact, quite controversial, and faces a lot of regulatory hurdles from government and private groups claiming that its fundamental business is and should remain illegal. At this point much of the company's history and news coverage, and therefore much of the article, will be devoted to the opposition and lawsuits, and some of the incidents (such as an inadequately insured driver running over a pedestrian) that the sources tie to the reasons for the laws in the first place. On the other hand, your observation may be true, and that is a fact of a lot of articles about large or novel companies. They generate lots of interest, and much of that interest is from people who think they are evil, fraudulent, a scam, etc. Whether it's Apple, google, Walmart, or any of these, there is a constant ebb and flow of people adding negative information that may or may not be truly about the company or of enough weight to mention, and then people wanting to trim it back. If any company gets big enough it's going to have lots of lawsuits and detractors. To be worth mentioning it has to be something (sourced as) important, and really related to the company. - Wikidemon (talk) 23:05, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Uber is controversial. Why not call it what it is? Yes, as the company receives more negative press, some of it will be reflected in this article -- as it should be. I note that this week taxi drivers in Paris and London staged numerous demonstrations against this company. They tied up traffic in the center of those cities to protest Uber. That was never done before. Uber is controversial. Chisme (talk) 02:06, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Monsanto is evil, Steinway is classic, Nike is well-managed, Motown is legendary, and American Apparel is rather ghetto. But we don't introduce each in the lede by saying "Monsanto is an evil…", "Steinway is a classic…", "Nike is a well-managed…", "Motown is a legendary…", or "American Apparel is a ghetto…". The introduction is supposed to identify the subject, not comment about it. - Wikidemon (talk) 03:04, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I disagree with your characterizations of those companies, especially "American Apparel is ghetto." The word ghetto is a noun, not an adjective. All you have to do is read this article to know that Uber is controversial. Quit yer white-washing. Chisme (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, not going to quit. Your disagreement underscores the point, loaded adjectives aren't encyclopedic. On Wikipedia we don't use the word "controversial" in identifying most any subject, let alone companies. BTW, accusing editors of whitewashing is not going to lead to useful discussion. FWIW the article has worse problems, it's jumbled and messy. Two long sections, history and regulatory opposition, are basically lists without any thematic structre. At least they're mostly in chronological order. - Wikidemon (talk) 01:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Since when is the word "controversial" loaded? "Ghetto" is loaded, especially to a certain kind of American suburbanite, who thinks the word is an adjective that means "of or having to do with underclass African-Americans," but I don't see how "ghetto" even applies to American Apparel, much less whether it is controversial when used as you use it to describe a clothing manufacturer. "Controversial" does apply to a controversial company like Uber. We disagree on that. We agree that the article is jumbled and messy. I don't care whether you quit or not. My purpose here is not to make you quit but to enlighten you. 02:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
For what it's worth the term ghetto was originally applied to Jewish enclaves in Venice. As an adjective it is a sometimes ironic put-down that is several steps from removed from any black versus white issue. Bank of America is controversial. Monsanto is certainly controversial. Barack Obama is controversial. Global climate change and evolution are controversial in the United States (whether the controversy is legitimate or not). The traditional taxi companies that Uber is displacing are controversial as well. I am not proposing any of these things in any positive sense to suggest content for the encyclopedia, but rather showing by analogy that a loaded term like controversial should also be qvoided. Tagging things with the term "controversial" even if true denigrates them. In business it questions their legitimacy. That's simply not the approach Wikipedia takes to writing ledes. Further, it injects a point of view, that public reception is a primary fact about a thing. - Wikidemon (talk) 08:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Prior to updating this page today, I can see that the pendulum has swung the other way if the Lead is any indication. This is 2014 and we can create an article on this company that is objective, as encyclopedic articles need to be. I will proceed with my revision and welcome further contributions, criticism, feedback, etc. Thanks.--Soulparadox (talk) 07:53, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Looking forward, thanks. - Wikidemon (talk) 07:58, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Two "opposition" sections?[edit]

Really? (talk) 00:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

So how does it work?[edit]

The article gives no explanation at all (talk) 21:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

/* Pricing and payments */ In the very short-run situation as described, the use of the term 'economic equilibrium' is inappropriate[edit]

The use of the term 'Economic Equilibrium' is inappropriate because price is a function of quantities. In this description (of the economic model of supply and demand) the firm is unable to affect prices for this reason, only quantities.

It is more appropriate to describe the firm as engaging in 'peak-load price discrimination' to create a 'partial equilibrium' condition. But this deals specifically with the firm's cost (or supply) function. It is too complicated to explain accurately in the article, so I have removed reference to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:58, 4 October 2014 (UTC)