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Does anyone agree that Vanilla Ice ruined this song? Rentastrawberry 01:30, September 8, 2005 (UTC) 200.164.27.202 00:39, 5 October 2005 (UTC) Who is Vanilla Ice???

I really like this song. However, I think that the article as it stands is not Neutral POV, specifically in regard to the Vanilla Ice sample. I think that the two songs' bass lines are very similar, but I think the language of the article is too strong in stating that Vanilla Ice's (what does he call himself now?) assertation that he wrote the line himself is 'nonsense'. I think the article needs a musicology reference. Surely someone has analysed this question from a DSP perspective and published. Can anyone add to this discussion?

I agree..line is removed. -- SoothingR(pour) 09:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Well guys, the fact remains that Vanilla Ice did *sample* the line (as the article already correctly states), and so his claim to have written and played a similar line on his record was false. So I have put that word in. It is not POV, although saying 'false' rather than 'nonsense' is of course more neutral. The idea that you would need to use "musicology" or "DSP" to "analyse" this is bizarre, unless you were congenitally deaf.--feline1 11:24, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree that Vanilla Ice ripped off the line from Queen, but it is definitely true that there is one note in there that's different. There is an extra note in the Vanilla Ice version. It is the eigth-note pickup into each second bar. It's clear that he stole the line, but it is incorrect to say that it is exactly the same. -Jon Stockton 03:50, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I changed the line to a modification of part of Sampling (music). This should please most people. Now it has his defence, which was accurate, but not sufficient to avoid having to settle out of court. -Jon Stockton 22:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


Just wondering why the line regarding Queen recording a B-side, and thus being credited first, was deleted?

Tom Prankerd 05:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I deleted it cos it was bollocks LOL That single was done in Queen's studio time, released under their EMI contract, included on their album. Plus there's four of them (and only one of Bowie). These are all reasons to put it as "Queen and David Bowie". But it hardly matters anyways.--feline1 10:27, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmmm, what source is there for that? The B-side thing is from one of Guinness' History of Rock books (I'll dig out the edition data if needed)... As for them being "four of them", well, tell the numbers thing to the Pat Metheny Band... Like I say, I'd just be interested to hear your sources, and I certainly think it won't actually hurt to say whatever the reason is. It's certainly as relevant as The Used and My Chemical Romance having a scrap over royalties. LOL.

Tom Prankerd 13:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Is there a reason why nobody's put in the Used/My Chemical Romance cover? I shall. Electriceel 12:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Lol at myself. What a dick. Read it first fool! --Electriceel 12:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I just added info about the space station playing under pressure in space, but I found there was already info about it in the pop-culture section. However, I will remove the info in "pop-culture" and keep my newly added contribution under its own topic "Trivia". It makes more sense doesn't it? /Richard, Sweden

Interpretations?[edit]

Are there any scholarly interpretations? The lyrics are pretty self explanatory, but if anyone knows of an interpretation one would be great here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RSido (talkcontribs) 04:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

Budapest Comment[edit]

There was a note under 'Live Recordings' saying that the one in Budapest was played half a note higher. That is not true because the reason it seemed higher during recordings was because the PAL to NTSC transfer messed up the audio making the pitch alot higher. I think it should be removed. JasonDeLima 01:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I was looking at this article and noticed that. I have removed the line.--Nyeguy 00:36, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

Can we clean up the trivia section a bit? The statement of being used in Law & Order is inserted twice: Trivia, and Pop Culture. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.137.73.109 (talk) 11:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC).

Saying that it was used "receintly" in a commercial isn't particularly helpful, does anyone know what month/year it was used?Reindeerz 20:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:QueenBowie UnderPressure.jpg[edit]

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The pop-culture section seems really long[edit]

Is this huge list of places where Under Pressure has been used really necessary? My thought is that we could just pick out a couple of notable ones and put them in the trivia section.--Nyeguy 00:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Style vandal[edit]

Hey Candyfloss, Zone46, Zntrip, just checking whether any of you have reported our resident clown for suspected sockpuppetry, 'cos that was next on my list... Cheers, Ian Rose 01:05, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

"24.92.28.8" = "Thistime19" = "Nightbird135" = "Noway419"... -- Cheers, Candyfloss 13:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Yep, that's how I see it - in fact I suspect it goes back even further, to Xotheusedguyox, who engaged in precisely the same behaviour and was given an indefinite block by SlimVirgin back in July... Cheers, Ian Rose 15:11, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

MCR?[edit]

It says that this is part of the MCR project at the top of the page. Why??? As far as I know this has nothing to do with MCR. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.223.164 (talk) 06:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

MCR and The Used did a live cover version of it in 2005. Grungedude22 (talk) 12:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I wonder why the collaboration of John Lennon and David Bowie (Fame, 1975) isn't mentioned as Bowie's "first artist collaboration". The article here says Queen was Bowies' first collaboration. I believe that to be an incorrect statement, but I am known to be frequently incorrect myself. I was just wondering. Anybody?

Speaking of MCR, why does the covers section have an infobox for the MCR/Used version when the section covers *counts* 18 versions of the song and none seem any more or less significant than that version. Also sports a fair use image. Does it really need to be there? Rehevkor 02:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Other Releases[edit]

It strikes me as funny to use youtube as a source... Is there no where else that the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra's cover of this song is documented? Gcdinsmore (talk) 20:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I added a reference from AllMusic. 140.168.79.1 (talk) 05:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Video[edit]

Should be something on the Queen/Bowie video... AnonMoos (talk) 15:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

In Popular Culture section[edit]

Someone please specify some notable uses of the song in films, video games, television, and advertisements. Bulldog73 (talk) 01:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Torrent[edit]

Is there any need for a link to the torrent (on KickassTorrents) for the "Killer Queen: A Tribute to Queen" tribute album? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.126.207.158 (talk) 20:40, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

No. Torrent sites are not reliable sources by any means. NJZombie (talk) 20:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Bass line[edit]

There has been some confusion about who created the song's bassline. John Deacon said (in Japanese magazine Musiclife in 1982, and in the previously mentioned French magazine) that David Bowie had created it. In more recent interviews, Queen guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor have credited the bass riff to Deacon. Bowie, on his website, said that the bassline was already written before he became involved.

In fact, they all are liars, since none of them created it. The truth is this: [1] --87.165.97.111 (talk) 18:30, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

One could also attribute the bassline to Sibelius (Symphony 1, movement 3) eg: this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2mziTIZ8o — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.171.29 (talk) 03:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Proof of Vanilla Ice Ownership?[edit]

The article states that Vanilla Ice now owns the song "Under pressure", but the source is Vanilla Ice himself, a notorious liar.

In fact, in that same interview he claims he was 16 when "Ice Ice baby" came out, and that it sold 160 million.

So any independent sources?

71.107.249.74 (talk) 11:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

He also told a CNN correspondent that he owns the song in this 2010 CNN interview: transcript. I really don't know, though. At this site, it claims they settled out of court, which means we only have Vanilla Ice's word as to what happened. It may or may not be the actual truth, but it's verifiable that he owns it. – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 20:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)