Talk:United States Poet Laureate

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List order[edit]

The list is currently in reverse chronological order, which makes the note regarding the change of titles somewhat confusing. I think it will be more clear to sort in in regular chronological order. Jonathunder (talk) 02:08, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Billy Collins Controversy[edit]

When Billy Collins was appointed to the position, a group of poets and critics associated with the POETICS list protested by voting for an anti-laureate. Anselm Hollo was elected to this position.

This statement raises more questions than it answers, and IMO should be developed or removed. Why did this group protest the Collins appointment? I went to the POETICS list and read their posts, and all I can figure is that they thought Collins was politically conservative (several of the posts referred to Collins as a "Bush II" appointment) or maybe his poetry wasn't sophisticated enough for them. A bit more development would help explain why this event is significant enough to be included (if indeed it is). Thanks. Easy2Slip (talk) 18:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

PS. I just read Anslem Hollo's "anti-laureate" acceptance speech (see link) and found no mention of Billy Collins; the controversy seems to be more about how laureates are selected than who is selected. If that is the case, the statement from the Wikipedia article should be reworded; otherwise it seems as if the POETICS people had a personal gripe against Collins. Easy2Slip (talk) 18:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. The PLOTUS is not appointed by the president, although many believe it to be the case. It is not much of a controversy and should be removed. There have certainly been greater controversies in the history of the position (the redbaiting of William Carlos Williams or the attempts to remove James Dickey. The Collins case was more a push for stylistic diversity. Collins was very popular in the position.--Splendoroftheirroots (talk) 04:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

This was last discussed in 2009 but no action taken. I also agree this "anti-laureate" issue is not prominent enough to be included in the article. The organization seems to be limited to The University of Buffalo, and is under review itself for not being notable enough for its own article. Also, per discussions in the Billy Collins article, it was decided not to include it there either. Removing it for now. --Bridgecross (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Copied[edit]

Most of this information is copied word-for-word from the Library of Congress's website. I don't know Wikipedia's policies on this, but I assume it should be rewritten or reworded...? DoubleEmblem | Talk 15:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Is it not the case that works of the U.S. Government are in the public domain? Qaz (talk) 14:02, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Lightning Rod[edit]

Quote: "the nation's official lightning rod for the poetic impulse of Americans"

Huh? What is that supposed to mean?

Thmazing (talk) 02:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I think it was some attempt at poetic vandalism. I removed it.

It's not a great line but I've heard it before and think it was a line from a PLOTUS. But it needs to be sourced.--Splendoroftheirroots (talk) 04:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Who WAS the first United States Poet Laureate?[edit]

There is a large amount of confusion on Wikipedia as to whether the appointment of Poet Laureate in the United States was created in 1937 for Joseph Auslander or in 1986 when Robert Warren was appointed. All that happened in 1986was that the title of the appointment was changed to include the words "Poet Laureate", whereas before it had just been "Consultant in Poetry to the Library of Congress". This is very unclear and, for example, leads to doubt as to whether Rita Dove was the first African-American woman to be appoointed (as is claimed) or whether it was Gwendolyn Brooks.Barmispain (talk) 05:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)