Talk:United States invasion of Panama

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Cites pls[edit]

At what point should we add "All US units were in Panama, except..." and begin listing US Armed Services units that -weren't- in Panama, in order to save space? I jest, of course, but there is a big problem of verifiability here; basically we are trusting in self-regulation by contributors. That goes a long way, but is it good enough? This article is a big wall and at any time someone can come and put 'Kilroy was here' on it, only we may not be able to tell. All of this happened nearly 20 years ago, aren't there some declassified documents on troops and ops by now? Anarchangel (talk) 03:02, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

  • What units are you talking about specifically? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
I was asking for citations. Any would be appreciated. Anarchangel (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Cites pls http://www.history.army.mil/documents/panama/unitlst.htm is unfortunately an incomplete list and has inaccuracies. For example this source http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1990/90-9/9091ch1.htm is a far more accurate history of the 7th ID Light Unit participation. Many of whom who were left out of The Center of Military History list. I agree with Niteshift36--be specific about what unit participation you doubt and i will try to find references/citations to help support validity. I will go as far to mail you my Military Records with personal information blacked out to show you proof of my units activities none which were included in The List from The Center of Military History but are included in the global security link I posted above. Remember, Military Clerks compile these lists and they make mistakes--often I am afraid. Don't believe the hype about "secret classified ops" and later declassification. Although there are some cases of this, unit participation inaccuracies are mostly just a result of poor record keeping and shoddy references. Thanks men. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.111.24.104 (talk) 03:28, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Wiki at its Finest[edit]

This article starts: "The United States Invasion of Panama, code-named Operation Just Cause, was the invasion of Panama by the United States..." Removing the one piece of actual information "code-named Operation Just Cause," this reads the "The United States Invasion of Panama was the invasion of Panama by the United States..." Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.141 (talk) 23:23, 18 October 2011 (UTC) -

it has been changed back and is now a fluent sentence. good pick up.Millertime246 (talk) 23:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Bias[edit]

The entire article seems a bit too biased towards the US. It should be appropriately changed so that it represents both points of view well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.97.94 (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

It is heavily biased. I'm not sure if the above was meant to be sarcastic but it actually feels to me as heavily anti-US. I must point out that you have said both points of view should be represented. Although well intentioned, this is simply incorrect as there should be no points of view (POV) on wikpedia, as per the editing rules.Wikipedia articles are supposed to be a factual record of events and not an exposition of the strength of each cause. This is how we avoid bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.43.162 (talk) 22:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
It is obviously filled with a pervasive far-left bias, which is why it cites fringe propagandists like William Blum and uses wildly inflated stats from Ramsey Clark. However, that's pretty normal on Wikipedia.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 20:18, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Reality has a well known liberal bias.

-g — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.112.142 (talk) 05:20, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Error in US Units Involved[edit]

Original Text:

2nd Bde, 7th Inf Div (L), was alerted for deployment. DRF 1 (3/27th Inf) and DRF 2 (2/27th INF) were deployed.

Correct Text: (I was a member of the 5/21st.)

The DRF 1 battalion was (5/21st Inf)- not 3/27.

Suggested changes[edit]

Originally posted at Help talk:Page history -- John of Reading (talk) 07:44, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Regarding this article: I believe I have a unique perspective regarding the invasion: I was in the 1st/504th of the 82nd when we jumped in, and in the following year was assigned to the 1st/508th in Panama for two years. There are some changes I'd like to make to the article.

Correct some unit mentions and links

Change some of the text in the Invasion portion to more accurately reflect that a number of simultaneous missions took place at H-hour,

7th SFG blocking the Panama Bridge
B co 1/508th attacking Ft Amador
1st/508th(-) attacking the Commandancia
1st Ranger BN(+) conducting a combat parachute assault to seize Tocumen IAP
2nd/3rd(-) Ranger BNs conducting a combat parachute assault to seize Rio Hato army airfield
SEALs attacking Punta Patilla
etc.

These operations took place almost at the same time shortly after the start of Operation Acid Gambit by Delta. The reason that only one BN(+) of Rangers was tasked to seize the larger Tocumen IAP is that the 1st BDE of the 82nd was scheduled to conduct their combat parachute assault of Tocumen IAP some 45 min after the Rangers jumped (it didn't happen this way because we had freezing rain at Bragg as we were prepping to embark).

Let me know if I can make some changes to this article Macdaddy1964 (talk) 16:45, 21 March 2014 (UTC)