Talk:Utah Beach

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Someone posted a first hand account of the landing at Utah Beach. It is interesting reading (see, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utah_Beach&oldid=14530649) but it doesn't really fit in an encyclopedia article. Maybe try wikisource, if the copyright status can be ascertained. Ydorb 14:47, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

A generic "catch all" reference is unacceptable. Mojodaddy 21:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

The D-Day section reads like it was written by a 5th grader and I'm too lazy to fix it. Mojodaddy 21:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no horse in this race, but the source cited is authoritative, not "generic". Very detailed and written by US Army historians. It does require other sources, I do agree.--Buckboard 18:33, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Utah Beach Song[edit]

Is there anything that makes this song notable? I find no wp:rs sources that establish it as wp:notable.--Work permit (talk) 01:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

No citations, I deleted it--Work permit (talk) 07:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Notes[edit]

  • The first image in D-Day is too light; the second one ("obstacles") is only a little better. I'm crap with images; does anyone know if this can be fixed? - Dank (push to talk) 19:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Airborne Losses[edit]

The estimate of 40% losses for the 101st seems high. Are we sure that number isn't referring to the reduction in "effective strength" due to the highly scattered formations? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjk81 (talkcontribs) 16:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

German radar station, Douvres-la-Delivrande[edit]

“Some 20 minutes after the first waves, British Royal Marine Commandos from 30 Commando Assault Unit, under the command of Captain G. Pike, landed at the beach. Their mission being the capture of a German radar station at Douvres-la-Delivrande”: this seems very unlikely as Douvres-la-Delivrande was located between the Sword and Juno sectors, at about 80km from Utah Beach. <http://www.normandie44lamemoire.com/versionanglaise/fichesvillesus/douvresus2.html>

ScarletteSca (talk) 13:04, 22 May 2013 (UTC)ScarletteSca

I removed the sentence. There is a confusion here, for sure. I've never heard any reports about British commandos on Utah, and certainly not with a mission to Douvres-la-Delivrande ! --Kormin (talk) 18:12, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Utah Beach/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jonas Vinther (talk · contribs) 21:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

The article is perfectly written with no sentence or grammar errors, but here is a list of suggestions for improvements.

1. "at the Trident Conference in Washington in May 1943" - How about changing this sentence to "at the Trident Conference, hosted by Churchill and Roosevelt, in Washington in May 1943".
"Hosted" is the wrong word; these two men headed their respective delegations. It's probably too much detail for this article. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
2. "The Allies initially planned to launch the invasion on May 1, 1944. A draft of the plan was accepted at the Quebec Conference in August 1943" - No way to connect these two sentences? How about "The Allies initially planned to launch the invasion on May 1, 1944 and a draft of the plan was accepted at the Quebec Conference in August 1943". Green tickY
3. "General Dwight D. Eisenhower was appointed commander of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF)" - How about this wording "General Dwight D. Eisenhower was appointed Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces". Red XN It streamlines the prose, but that was not his title. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
4. "Its current commander, Major General Roscoe Woodruff, was replaced with Major General J. Lawton Collins" - It might just be me, but I was confused at the "its current commander" wording. How about removing "current" or reformulating it to "the commander". Green tickY
5. "A report by Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, Oberbefehlshaber West (Supreme Commander West; OB West), overall commander on the Western Front" - How about simply writing "A report by Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, overall commander on the Western Front" Green tickY
6. "which stretched from the Netherlands to Cherbourg" - Are we talking about the Atlantic Wall or just the most likely landing sights? My understanding is that the Atlantic Wall stretched some 2000 miles from coast of Denmark to the Spanish border. Green tickY You are correct. Ford-Zaloga (p.54) says Rommel was responsible for improvements all along the Atlantic Wall, but he focused most of his attention along the Channel, which was the most likely scene for an invasion, being within reach of air bases in Britain (Beevor p.33). Amended the prose to reflect that. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
7. "Many of the men were Ostlegionen (non-German conscripts recruited from Soviet prisoners of war, Georgians, and Poles)" - How about changing this sentence to "Many of the men were Ostlegionen (non-German conscripts recruited from Soviet prisoners of war, Georgians, and Poles), known to be deeply unreliable". Green tickY
8. I know there's only two in "German order of battle", but if you don't arrange it in the same way as "Allied order of battle", it will just look ... stupid. Green tickY
9. "but two men were killed and 17 wounded by mines and German artillery fire" - WP:NUMERAL says you should not switch between writing numbers in words and numbers in the same sentence, so I would recommend changing "17" to "seventeen". Green tickY
10. "Cherbourg fell in the Battle of Cherbourg" - Doesn't quite flow. How about "Cherbourg fell during the Battle of Cherbourg". Green tickY
The article meets the GA-criteria, but I would like the GA-nominators thoughts on my suggestions before it's listed, so going to put it on hold. Excellent job. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 21:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Jonas for the review and for your kind words. Most of the suggested amendments have been done, and the article is ready for your review. -- Diannaa (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Good job, Diannaa. I am passing the article. :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 23:40, 16 October 2014 (UTC)