Talk:V. K. Wellington Koo

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When is he born?[edit]

OK, so the biographical info in the beginning of the article says that he was born in 1889, and then a couple of paragraphs later it says that he was born in 1904. And then again, towards the end of the article, it says that he died at the age of 89 in 1985, which once again implies a year of birth of 1889. 1889 is probably right, but I don't know what's correct. Someone check up and amend, please. Perhaps he left school in 1904 (at the age of 15) or something similar. David ekstrand 23:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I take that you mean 1887 instead of 1889, as that is the year mentioned in the article. I believe that what the text is trying to say is that he moved to the US in 1904. Which also matches his being 98 years (not 89 years) of age when he died. --Kesal 11:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Wives[edit]

Someone has changed the order of the wives, as well as citational links that make it very clear who is who (or whom is whom). In any case, if further citations can be noted re more information about Koo's wives (and their legal marital status, plus children), please note. According to a 1975 interview that Juliana Koo gave to Things Asian (link cited), she and her husband had separated in the 1950s; that interview and article, about her memoirs, actually, states clearly who her father was, which at least gets her identity correct.Kitchawan 23:47, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Did Koo have two concurrent wives?Kitchawan 15:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
His first wife died in 1918, and Koo remarried two years later.204.126.251.129 21:24, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Rename?[edit]

I've used the entry in Boorman's BIOGRAPHICAL DICTIONARY to make some minor changes. I wonder if the Wikipedia article should be renamed "V.K. Wellington Koo," since that was his own chosen name in English. But I'll wait to see if there are other opinions. ch (talk) 07:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese)suggests "The encyclopedia should reference the name more familiar to most English readers." So I will plan go ahead with the change after a couple of weeks for comments. ch (talk) 05:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and made the move ch (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Head of State[edit]

I wonder if these conditions - "acting premier and Foreign Minister" - constitute his being head of state as mentioned in the first paragraph.

teneriff (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

In 1924, under Duan Qirui, the positions of head of state and head of government were merged into the "Provisional Chief Executive of the Republic of China". The ROC presidency was nominally restored in 1926 under Yen Hui-Ching, not as an independent office, but in the form of "Premier and Interim President" (國務總理攝行大總統 guowu zongli shexing dazongtong). Koo inherited this office as "Acting Premier and Interim President" (代國務總理攝行大總統 dai guowu zongli shexing dazongtong) between 1926 and 1927, serving both as the head of government and head of state.

eofreedom (talk) 6:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.134.128 (talk)

English name[edit]

The article states that Wellington Koo was the only Chinese head of state known to use an English name publicly. However, Puyi - the last Emperor - publicly used the name Henry (his autobiography was published in English under the name Henry Pu Yi, I believe). I don't know if he ever used this name while in power, however. So perhaps this needs to be modified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.45.52.8 (talk) 03:33, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Choosing a picture[edit]

I have reinstated the black and white picture above left instead of the colorized version, now for the third time. My motives are very simple : the original picture, taken in 1912 is obviously in black and white, and the colour version is due to an editor at Commons and is of no historical significance. The picture as it could be seen by contemporaries of Wellington Koo is obviously the right one in this article.

Please, if you revert me one more time, discuss your motives on this talk page. Touriste (talk) 14:01, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Freedom of the city of Aberdeen[edit]

He was awarded Freedom of the City of Aberdeen in 1943 as a special council meeting on the 27th of July 1943. Whilst he was the Ambassador to Britain. Would it be relevant to include it? I don't know how to reference the Source but it's in the councils archives and from the Minute of the meeting of the Town Council of Aberdeen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.161.210 (talk) 15:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)