Talk:Valaam Monastery

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When did Sergius of Valaam live?[edit]

Even if the date of the founding of the monastery is disputed, the lifespan of Sergius of Valaam cannot deviate as much. Local tradition places him at the 10th century, I tend to believe this. -- Petri Krohn 01:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

What kind of evidence do you have? --Tellervo 15:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

This is most certainly not true. There is no evidence for missionary activities in Karelia in the 10th century. The city of Novgorod itself - one of the richest in early medieval Europe - was Christianized by Dobrynya and Putyata "with fire and sword" ca. 990. Rostov remained largely heathen well into the 11th century. St. Adalbert of Prague could only dream of Christianizing parts of present-day Poland, so Karelia was not on the agenda. --Ghirla-трёп- 20:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Yefrem of Perekomy[edit]

founded in 1389 by Efrem, a monk from Kashin later canonized as Yefrem of Perekomy.

There is quite a lot of information about this saint online.[1] The dates of his life are 20 September 1412 (birth) and 26 September 1492 (death). So it does not square up with the monastery's foundation in 1389. --Ghirla-трёп- 20:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

"Oligarchs" and Putin[edit]

Many of the newly rich oligarchs of Russia have donated huge sums to the restoration of the monastery. President Vladimir Putin has a private villa there.

This urban legend needs to be well sourced. I have yet to find an oligarch patronizing the Russian Orthodox Church. Most of those "oligarchs" are not ethnically Russian and don't practice Orthodoxy. The Russian newly-rich are predominantly atheist. --Ghirla-трёп- 21:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Text from Finnish Orthodox Church[edit]

The following text is pasted here from the article Finnish Orthodox Church. As the text overlapped with the contents of this article, please see if the text has reusable elements here. --Drieakko 07:45, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

According to tradition, Valaam Monastery was founded by a 10th century Greek monk, Sergius, and his companion, Herman. Some historians, among them Heikki Kirkinen, have placed the founding of the monastery in the middle of the 12th century.[1] Modern historians consider even this date too early. According to the newest source, found in Russia and published by Natalia Ohtina, Valaam Monastery was founded in 1389 by a monk, Efrem, later canonized as Efrem of Perekomy.[2]

Valaam monastery had for many centuries an intermittent existence, due to raids and wars between Sweden (Western Finland was by then a part of Sweden) and Russians. It was destroyed and sacked in 1580 and a second time in 1610-11. In 1611 the monastery closed down for a whole century, and its activity got a real upswing only in the period when igumen Nazari became the head of the monastery in 1781.
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