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UBC in photo in infobox[edit]

I mentioned this a few years ago but it got no traction. The photo in the infobox features, among other things a picture of UBC and the endowment lands. UBC is not strictly speaking in Vancouver. It would be a bit like putting in a photo of SFU (in Burnaby) or Steveston (in Richmond). From a larger view, sure, they are in Metro Vancouver. This article, however, is not about Metro Vancouver but the city proper. The photo needs to change, I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mingmingla (talkcontribs) 18:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

If you make an alternate collage we can poll the editors about it. Mkdwtalk 18:43, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
I would like to, but I'm afraid I lack the skills. Mingmingla (talk) 01:56, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Date format[edit]

JimWae recent changed the dates to MDY. This discussion occurs every couple of years -- and generally because JimWae makes the mass change and someone probably like me reverts it and asks for a discussion. I know he's worked very hard to get all the Canadian articles to go in line with the American style format. The last two discussions, Talk:Vancouver/Archive_8#Date_Format and Talk:Vancouver/Archive_9#Comma_after_year_in_full_MDY_dates ended in stalemate or consensus for the British format. Essentially Canadian articles have the choice between the American and the British format. It's not the end of the world to use either and since JimWae has changed most of the other Canadian formats to the American it has it's merits. I still think a new consensus should be found rather than outright making the change even though this consensus has been done against them in the past. I feel like then it won't feel as pushy from both sides. 15:44, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Sister Cities[edit]

NightShadow23, it's great that you have this information about Vancouver and Sochi maybe becoming sister cities in the future, but we should not say in this Wikipedia article that they are sister cities until they are in fact sister cities. The reference you provided only states that they are currently evaluating an agreement to possibly become sister cities in the future. This also means that they may not become sister cities at all. If we say that they are already sister cities, it is factually incorrect. Keep your eye on this situation and only add the information back into the article once it becomes official.Air.light (talk) 06:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

The problem I see with this is that there is no information about this sister city arrangement anywhere on the internet that I could find, in English, in Canada. The one website you have mustered apparently says that there is an agreement but to me it seems quite sketchy to say that it is sufficient "proof" of this supposed agreement. Why is there no mention of this in Canada? Was Canada and Vancouver not made aware of this agreement? To have something like this in the Wikipedia article for Vancouver, it should have a little more evidence supporting it. I do not want to get into an edit war with you so I will not continue to remove it just to have you keep on putting it back up.

What do others think?Air.light (talk) 09:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Air.light & NightShadow23: my name is Jhenifer Pabillano and I'm the social media strategist for the City of Vancouver. I'd like to clarify that the City's protocol office has confirmed that we are NOT sister cities with Seoul, Korea and Sochi, Russia, and we would like to see them removed from the Sister Cities section. The City only has 5 sister cities and we haven’t entered into a sister city agreement since 1985. It is very confusing for cities who have made a sister-city request to think that we have two new ones.

I'm new to Wikipedia so let me know if any more info is needed. Thanks! Jhenifer (talk) 17:42, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jhenifer: Thank you for helping to contribute to Wikipedia. It is very difficult to authenticate your identity here but there does not seem to be any readily available information from the City of Vancouver on the issue (e.g. website or press release). I will go ahead and remove the two sister cities from the listing as they have yet to be verified. The gokuban.ru references used for Sochi are actually available in English as well at http://www.gokuban.com/activity/blood-brothers/ where it does not list Vancouver for Sochi. Mkdwtalk 18:57, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
@Mkdw: Thanks for the clarification. The last major public mention of sister cities is in an administrative report from 2008, which lists our existing sister cities and the moratorium placed in the 1980s. Sochi and Seoul are not included. It is already linked as reference 200 on the Vancouver Wikipedia page: http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20080311/documents/a14.pdf
To verify my identity, you can check out the directory/org chart on the City's website, where I am listed as the City's social media strategist: http://app.vancouver.ca/QFOrgChart_net/default.aspx?id=585
The main page for the City's directory is also here: http://app.vancouver.ca/qf_net/Default.aspx
Let me know if you need anything more!
Jhenifer (talk) 21:16, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
@Jhenifer: Thank you for providing those links. The biggest challenge for us is to verify who actually operates the Wikipedia account User:Jhenifer. While most people are honest, sometimes people make claims, even with links on their Wikipedia userpages claiming to be someone or a person who represents a company, but in fact do not end up being connected. If you really wanted to assert your connection to your Wikipedia account, the best form of 'proof' would be on your City of Vancouver profile to state or provide a link to your Wikipedia account. That provides a two way authentication. That being said, I do not think you need to do that necessarily. There are also quite a few reasons why you may not want to do that. Paid editing and conflict of interest (and even conflict of influence) are considered a very controversial issues and the City may want to avoid it. While you may not break the 'rules' around it, it may become something that draws public attention and sometimes criticism. I don't mean to scare you off with it, but it's definitely something you should be aware when you make the choice on how to best proceed. The Wikimedia Foundation does have a system that allows people and companies to address concerns and issues they find on Wikipedia through a ticket system called WP:OTRS. The system is quite flexible and can handle a great number of things. It may be one venue the City may want to explore in the future. In any regard, welcome to Wikipedia and you, yourself, as a person are always welcome to edit Wikipedia and the talk page for articles about the City are definitely a good practice to continue knowing your affiliations. Cheers, Mkdwtalk 21:51, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
@Mkdw: Got it. Well, I can't do that for vancouver.ca but I have edited my userpage and put a link up on my personal website to verify my identity if that helps.
* http://pabillano.com/about/
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jhenifer
Your guidance is very much appreciated btw! I don't mind verifying. I very infrequently edit Wikipedia and am very conscious of conflict of influence. Hopefully this identity verification will help more clearly outline my commitment to transparency and good behaviour. :)
Jhenifer (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

London[edit]

I think there is a wrong London link in the first section. Is another London (one in Canada) meant? Someone should correct it, I dont know which London is meant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.212.93.223 (talk) 23:55, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

The right London is being linked. The one in the UK. Mkdwtalk 00:28, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

"an alternative to sprawl"????[edit]

"Vancouver is characterized by high-rise residential and mixed-use development in urban centres, as an alternative to sprawl" Really? I had to guffaw when I saw that; apparently this is about only the City of Vancouver and the writer of the reference was oblivious to Surrey, Langley, Maple Ridge, PoCoMo et al. The vanity of the "Vancouverism" myth is kinda humourous if it weren't so deluded. Self-serving architect's babble is what I see in that claim. Surrey and Langley are "LA with rain".Skookum1 (talk) 12:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)