Talk:Vardar Banovina

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For the record: BalkanFever in revert games?[edit]

-I included the name as presented in an official publication: Vardarska Banovina, but did not argue it should be the name of the article.
-BalkanFever reverted and asked: "was that in english?"
-I replied to his question in the affirmative: "Yes, thanks, the official publication was in English and says Vardarska".
-BalkanFever reverted and asked a new question: "and does it also use "zetska", "moravska", "dravska" etc.?"
-I repeated my first answer to him. BalkanFever is potentially engaged in an indiscriminate reversal policy, changing his questions and not respecting that I reply to his question. I do not understand his attitude and hope some action might be anticipated.
-I will provide further information on Vardarska Banovina based on the official Belgrade source os everyone will be happy. Politis (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
What makes you think any particular version would have had any "official" status in English? Vardarska Banovina is the Serbian version. Vardar Banate is the conventional English translation. Of course, Serbian authorities may have occasionally used the untranslated Serbian bit in English or other languages, but it's hardly up to them to decide what English does conventionally. If Vardar Banate is the more common conventional form in English, then that's it. By the way, you never substantiated with a concrete citation what that document was you spoke of, and what exactly it says. Fut.Perf. 20:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Ev and BalkanFever, please feel free to revert my edit until I provide the source of the official document. Out of curiosity BalkanFever, do you object to the term Vardarska? No offence meant.Politis (talk) 13:52, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

No, I don't "object" if by that you mean I feel offended by it and don't want to see it in the article. But I question the notion that "Vardarska" by itself would be used to refer to the banate/banovina, in English. The suffix -ska represents the adjectival form of a word. Conventionally in English, if the noun isn't translated the adjectival form isn't either. "Vardar" is not a translation of "Vardar", and so for the adjective "Vardarska", "Vardar" is simply used as the adjective; there is no translation (i.e. "Vardarian") nor is the adjectival form directly adopted. The only reason "Vardarska" would be used in English, by itself, by this document that you haven't sourced yet, would be alongside "Zetska", "Moravska", "Dravska" etc. - look at the names of the other banates to get an adequate context. In Serbian (and Macedonian) of course it could have been called simply "Vardarska" in the context of administrative division. BalkanFever 05:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I see, you mean that Vardarska means Vardarian? Politis (talk) 10:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, just that it isn't translated as Vardarian since that is not a word. So instead we say Vardar. BalkanFever 10:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
     Actually, I do find the adjectival form "Vardarian" in English, chiefly in geographic uses.

Thanks, so we can leave the 'Vardarians' to Star Wars :-). My source is published in the book titled, Central Press Bureau of the Ministerial Council, Belgrade 1930. Politis (talk) 12:03, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

What's the connection with Vardar Macedonia?[edit]

Was it a different name? The successor? The predecessor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.99.187 (talk) 21:50, 22 May 2012 (UTC)