Talk:Variation (music)

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Anybody, continous variation, or continous variations form? Hyacinth 03:09, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

-- continuous variation/continuous variations anyway, if anyone does write it? Or is spelling without that u more standard in musical circles? Not being sarcastic, I don't know. Schissel | Sound the Note! 07:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


Hmm, I searched for Variations in the sense of Combinatorics. Any volunteer to restucture this article so that this could be included?

Well, isn't the first step for the Wikipedia to include material on Variations in this sense? I didn't find any on the Combinatorics article. I suggest you put a comment on the Discussion page for Combinatorics, in hopes of finding mathematical (as opposed to musicological) expertise. (Please bear with me if I didn't understand your comment properly.) Opus33 00:21, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Variation vs development[edit]

One important difference between Variation form and Development (which involves Variation) is that typically, in music before the modern era, music in variation form keeps the phrase structure almost constant - the musical periods, the half-closes and full-closes, will occur at relatively speaking the same places. This is more true with some composers than others, far, far less true with some (Elgar, Reger etc.) whose variation sets are indeed much more fantasies on the themes than variations as Mozart, Beethoven or Brahms understood the form, and while some composers tended to also keep the harmonic structure intact (without making of it a passacaglia) etc., Beethoven stretched the form considerably- yes to all points, but this may have been the essential difference (Thorpe-Davie, Musical Structure and Design- not exactly a recent book but seems quite sensible on the point...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 07:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Internal links as footnotes[edit]

Internal links should be provided in text to distinguish them from citations as Wikipedia can not cite itself. Hyacinth (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Goldmark's Rustic Wedding Symphony[edit]

The first movement of Karl Goldmark's Ländliche Hochzeit (Rustic Wedding Symphony), Op. 26 is a set of variations. This is unusual for a symphony, where variations normally occur (if they occur at all) in later movements. While it wasn't significant in the development of variation form as such, it might be significant for its placement in the 1st movement of a symphony. Is this worthy of mention here? -- JackofOz (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Misspellings in quotation?[edit]

Could an editor who has access to the Raybar source check to see if it actually contains the misspellings 'accomanied', 'repetiton' and 'lead'? Chris the speller (talk) 05:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC)