Talk:Venus of Brassempouy

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Did you know... that the 25,000-year-old Venus of Brassempouy (pictured) is one of the oldest known realistic depictions of a human face?

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Somebody's Girl[edit]

I think a guy made this as a present for his girl. I think it's a picture of her . Why not? If someone carved me something that nice, I would think quite a bit of him. -- 08:19, 21 March 2009 172.190.165.82

However, that's personal speculation. AnonMoos (talk) 12:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it is. But it's a lot more interesting a speculation than most. You could write a whole book about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.150.213 (talk) 05:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever else, it's certainly one of the very oldest depictions of a human face. 83.254.151.33 (talk) 20:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Date reference[edit]

The age of the artifact is stated in reference to p. 264 of White's 2006 publication, found in "external links". I was unable to find it in the document, could anyone please quote the source? Because right now it seems to me that the reference is not accurate. --2.241.20.27 (talk) 21:12, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Desambiguation needed[edit]

Firdt of all, I would like to apologies for my odd english. I'm french.

In french, the name « Vénus de Brassempouy » (obtiously the translation for Venus of Brassempouy) can also be used for another figurine, less famous (also called « the pear » which is also less sexy...), this one is also preserved in the Musée d'Archéologie Nationale at Saint-Germain-en-Laye, near Paris. So even if you don't make the confusion in english, maybe you should mention this fact in the article... --Cangadoba (talk) 20:09, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Added image of the reconstruction of the Lady.[edit]

I did this because the Gravettian article had it and it's about her in particular and felt like readers who would look her up would find this an interesting concept. For aesthetic reasons, I had to move the other 2 images and I put them where I felt were acceptable locations. Please feel free to rearrange or whatever. Excellent article, by the way. Well done! MagnoliaSouth ^(talk) 21:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the interpretation is misleading and depicts a woman with more European characteristics which is not accurate and doesn't align with other venus statues. Let's not try to alter history with false interpretations. Her hair is clearly cornrows or locs. I immediately recognized this hairstyle asn I've worn them for years. Klamaestra (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have no idea whether her hair is in cornrows or not. It could be a cap, a scarf, some kind of covering. It could be dreadlocks AND it could even be cornrows. Your assumption that nobody w/ "European characteristics" would wear cornrows is also really myopic and quite ignorant. Back in those days where they never washed their hair (or rarely) whatever style they did adopt would've been influenced just by the sheer oiliness of the hair. And frankly since the piece depicts a woman who lived in Europe then why would she NOT have European characteristics? It's YOU that's trying to alter history.

Date of Discovery?[edit]

In the introductory section it says: "It was discovered in a cave at Brassempouy, France in 1892." In the 'Discovery' - section it says: "The Venus of Brassempouy was discovered in the Grotto of the Pope in 1894 [...]" and "In 1894, one of those strata, recognized now as Gravettian, yielded several fragments of statuettes, including the "Lady with the Hood"." Korinthus (talk) 16:43, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's 1894 - changed (White makes clear) Johnbod (talk) 16:58, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]