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Updated "History" language[edit]

Hello,

I've been working on a draft to replace the current "History" section of the article. I'd like for other editors to take a look at it and let me know their thoughts. I essentially started from scratch on the organization and language of the section, though it does include all the major details in the current article, like the company's formation, the MCI merger, and divestitures. You can find the draft in my userspace, but as I did before, I've included a few notes here.

  • I didn't include the information in the current "AT&T breakup and NYNEX acquisition" section about Bell Atlantic prior to the merger with GTE that formed Verizon. It seemed like too much detail for an article about Verizon.
  • I included all the information from the "Controversies" section in the chronology of the "History" section, in order to present this issues in context. If editors think this covers the controversial issues sufficiently, the "Controversies" section can be removed when this section is moved into the article, in order to avoid repeating information.
  • I would like editors to pay close attention to one incident regarding mail servers in Europe in 2004. I've included it because it appeared in the existing "Controversies" section, but it seems like a very minor incident could be taken out if editors would prefer.

The draft is quite long and contains a great deal of information, so please let me know if there are any comments or questions. If everything looks good, I'd appreciate if an editor could move the draft over to the article and remove the "Controversies" section. Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

There was also some vandalism recently to the introduction of this article, replacing "1900" with "1300", which I think should be corrected! VZBob (talk) 16:29, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
The above vandalism has been corrected, but there is a new issue that has been introduced, with an editor adding information over two edits (1, 2) that Verizon's headquarters are located in Basking Ridge, New Jersey. Although Verizon has large offices in Basking Ridge, Verizon Communication's legal headquarters are in New York City. You'll also note that the source included by this editor does not mention Basking Ridge, but only indicates that Verizon moved within New York. Would an editor be willing to undo these edits that introduce incorrect information?
Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Done.Naraht (talk) 19:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I have reviewed the proposed history and, in particular, its overlap with the controversies section. I replaced the existing histories section and then progressively checked that the controversies had been covered elsewhere in the article (one item is covered in "Lines of business"). Not being US-based or a telecoms expert, I have done my best in good faith and would urge other editors to double-check the recent revisions. Paul W (talk) 12:23, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Paul W! If other editors have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to me here or on my Talk. VZBob (talk) 18:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
For the purposes of attribution history in case the user-page gets deleted, this edit of User:VZBob/History by User:VZBob dated 18:40, 21 February 2014 copied into the article with this edit by User:Paul W dated 11:43, 18 March 2014 (Special:ComparePages). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:59, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Updated "Sponsorships and naming rights" section[edit]

Hello, I would like to propose replacing the "Sponsorships and naming rights" section of the article with a new draft I have been working on, as the current section is essentially just a list of venues which contain the Verizon name. While working on a more detailed version of that section I realized that the article also lacks information on Verizon's marketing efforts.

So, I've created two sections: "Marketing campaigns" and "Sponsorships and venues." These sections would serve as an overview of Verizon's most widely recognized marketing campaigns and detail the company's sponsorship activities, as well as include some information on named venues. I'd like for editors to take a look and let me know what they think of these new sections. I've posted the draft in my userspace.

If you have any comments or questions please let me know. Because I'm an employee of Verizon, I won't make these changes myself. Instead, I'm hoping an editor will move the draft over to the article and delete the current "Sponsorships and naming rights" section.

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 13:45, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Yesterday, an editor from an IP address made several changes to the infobox for this article, which are largely unsourced and incorrect. I'm hoping that, in addition to looking at the marketing sections mentioned above, an editor can roll back these infobox edits to how it looked on May 2, which is much more accurate. I should note that even that information is not perfect, and I'll be back with a few improvements that could be made to it as well, but it is certainly more accurate than the current version for the time being.
Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 19:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Some infobox improvements, and a recent edit[edit]

Hello, I'm back with some suggestions for correcting information in the infobox on this article. I also have a comment about a recent edit that you'll find below. As I've mentioned before, I'm an employee of Verizon, I so won't make any of these edits myself. Instead, I'm hoping volunteer editors can look at what I've suggested, and make the changes if things look okay.

For the infobox, there are several pieces of information that should be corrected:

  • “President” should be removed from Lowell McAdam’s titles. He’s “just” the Chairman and CEO (see, e.g., here).
  • GTE, MCI Inc. and NYNEX should be deleted under the subsidiaries. They are former companies that were subsumed by Verizon and not currently operating subsidiaries (see discussion in current History section).
  • Change “Telematics” to “Hughes Telematics” (source).
  • We should also remove Vodafone Italy under subsidiaries, as Verizon no longer owns this as of Feb. 2014 (source).
This was done by an IP address editor. VZBob (talk) 17:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Technically, Verizon only has two divisions: wireless and wirelines. I think that everything currently listed under "Divisions" should be moved included under "Subsidiaries."
  • Symbol delete vote.svg That's not really what the divisions thing is supposed to mean. It's more about pointing out each locational office. SilverserenC 04:50, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, that makes sense to me. Thanks so much for all of your help on these edits! VZBob (talk) 14:01, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Concerns about an edit[edit]

I'm also a bit concerned about a recent edit that was made, adding in a paragraph about an FCC ruling against Verizon regarding tethering. The paragraph reads:

In July of 2012, the FCC made a ruling against Verizon, requiring it to stop charging users an added fee for using 4G smartphones and tablets as Wi-fi hotspots (known as "tethering"). Verizon had charged its customers $20 per month regardless of whether they had an "unlimited" plan. A writer on ZDNET, described the policy as being "about trying to squeeze the customer for the maximum amount of income with the minimum amount of service." Verizon paid $1.25 million to the US Treasury.

This is a very minor thing in the history of Verizon, and I feel that devoting a whole paragraph to this topic is a case of recentism. I'd like to suggest that, if other editors agree, this paragraph be removed from the History section. If, however, editors think this should be mentioned, I'd suggest that it be shortened, perhaps:

In July 2012, the FCC required Verizon to stop charging for tethering. As part of the settlement, Verizon made a voluntary payment of $1.25 million to the U.S. Treasury.

Regardless of which course of action editors think is best here, I do think the language included in the article should note that the money paid to the U.S. Treasury was voluntary, and not a fine.

Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 16:57, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

This one you're going to have to get/convince other editors to do, since I don't think i'd be an objective enough source to make such a change. Apologies. SilverserenC 04:51, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
No problem at all; I will reach out to some other editors. Thanks so much, VZBob (talk) 14:01, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I made part of the change, which you can see in this edit. That's as far as i'm willing to involve myself, however. SilverserenC 22:02, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, Silver seren! I really appreciate your help on this article. VZBob (talk) 15:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)