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Inaccurate statement[edit]

Found: "Vietnam was part of Imperial China for over a millennium, from 111 BC to 938 AD." The statement doesn't accurately depict the history of Vietnam. It erroneously implies Vietnam had belonged originally to China, which is totally inaccurate. Vietnam had never been part of China before, but after the Chinese invasion, Vietnam was part of Imperial China at the time. Professor and Holder of the John Biggs Chair in Military History Spencer C Tucker, Spencer C. Tucker states in his book (http://books.google.com/books?id=hvyNAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=111+BC+to+938+AD,+vietnam&source=bl&ots=ZI78puaTtA&sig=bI15k6BdzP2Rj-xAB89FUyvZnEw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Zf6lU-2UBrHo8AHSr4GgCA&ved=0CEkQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=111%20BC%20to%20938%20AD%2C%20vietnam). That statement should be read: "Governgov (talk) 22:11, 21 June 2014 (UTC)After the Chinese invasion, Vietnam was part of Imperial China for over a millennium, from 111 BC to 938 AD."


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Minor typo[edit]

Found a typo in the part about the First Indochina War. "major strategic setback at during their defeat at the Siege of Dien Bien Phu"

Ordering of leaders in infobox[edit]

Why is the Communist Party General Secretary listed first and the President listed second? According to Syntax in Template:Infobox country, the first leader listed is usually the head of state's (wikilinked) title, e.g. "President", "Monarch". --WikiWinters (talk) 20:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

The two audio files at the top of the article have been transcribed similarly with /ɑː/, though the second, the native Vietnamese one, is clearly /æ/. So I've edited the second accordingly: the vowel value now matches that further down in the Etymology section.

The article currently gives most prominence to the US pron, /ɑː/. My judgment is that the Vietnamese pron should be the first mentioned. Spicemix (talk) 17:50, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Help with stub: Kingdom of Cambodia (1975-76)[edit]

Hello, I noticed there was a gap in the former states of Cambodia so I created Kingdom of Cambodia (1975-76); any help in expanding this stub would be much appreciated. Cheers, walk victor falk talk 04:54, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2014[edit]

Congdinh2610 (talk) 10:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Please change "Ethnic groups 85.7% Vietnamese"

to "Ethnic groups 85.7% Viet"

Because there's not any ethnic which is named Vietnamese, and could be make misunderstand with all Vietnamese people. In Vietnam, we named the main ethnic is "Kinh" or "Viet", maybe "Viet" is more common and easy for foreign to understand, but not Vietnamese. Thank you.

"... there's not any ethnic which is named Vietnamese"
There's not any ethnic what?
"Ethnic is an adjective, not a noun!"
Surely there are some literate Wikipedia editors capable of correcting such fundamental misuse of English?!
It's an article talk page, not an English classroom. No one cares. bridies (talk) 19:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.  LeoFrank  Talk 16:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I think this is problematic, since the main article on the ethnic group is called Vietnamese people but I agree the OP is correct (Kinh is also bolded in the lead in the main article). This seems to me to be plainly analogous to Cambodian vs Khmer, Laotian vs Lao and Burmese vs Burman. bridies (talk) 18:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

  • No further input, so made the edit. bridies (talk) 18:22, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Give me one example then[edit]

Give me one example of socialist states which hasn't had single-party rule post-1917 then @Bridies:. --TIAYN (talk) 09:18, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

The Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka and People's Republic of Bangladesh, it would seem, and arguably various other states under socialist governments (we are talking about governments, yes?) at one time or another: "socialist state" is ambiguous, and if we must remove one, "single-party" should be what remains. None of this is even relevant: shall I start giving references that describe Vietnam as a "single-party" state, government, or regime? bridies (talk) 09:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
As much as various people would like to see their variations of their ideology in any specific country most countries are a mix.

A state can have socialism or socialist principles in its constitution no matter its political plurality. Then any part is consititutionally bound to uphold certain virtues just like any party in America (and its de facto two party system) is bound to uphold its virtues. Of course sometimes constitutions are ignored. Just like it partly was in the USSR and partly is today in the US. Other reasons which make Vietnam a socialist country but still a single-party state is the states regulation and ownership of the economy which actually is growing and the way the result of this economic activiity benefits the people (after corruption) instead of single individuals or groups of them as under oligarchy or fascism. 79.136.64.95 (talk) 03:54, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

The notion that state ownership benefits "the people" and not vested "individuals or groups" is verifiably ridiculous ;) Otherwise I agree regards pervasive state ownership making it something recognisably socialist, as it's commonly understood. I don't really see what you're getting at in regards to the OP, though. bridies (talk) 11:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Administrative Map[edit]

Administrative maps need to fix because Ha Tay province was merged into Hanoi since 2008. Nguyenthienhaian (talk) 05:45, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2014[edit]

Under the heading "1862–1945: French Indochina", there is a vocabulary error in the final sentence. Instead of "Japan exploited Vietnam's natural resources to support its military campaigns, cumulating in a full-scale takeover of the country ...", it should read "Japan exploited Vietnam's natural resources to support its military campaigns, culminating in a full-scale takeover of the country ...." Mprat001 (talk) 13:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)