Talk:Viswanathan Anand

Correct name & edit war with Quale

This is regards to the "concern" of Quale. For the sake of record, I'm one of the early Wikipedians (18th or so) and I was sick at certain times as people were doing "Google Test" and start removing my edits. Then some people came from South India and supported me. I'm not sure if that "culture" still persists here; but that's a big curse of openness and possessive edits.

Regarding the naming, here are the proofs (even if there's no proof, please note that it's a commonsense here in South India):

 That’s right. I’m Anand. My father is Vishwanathan. At some point people assumed that this must be my first name and Anand must be my last name. It’s common in the West. Vishwanathan was unpronounceable for them. Became Vishy.

 But my father is Vishwanathan Krishnamurthy. I am Anand Vishwanathan. Of course, my wife is Aruna Anand. So among the mysteries we have to explain to many people is, though we are married, why we don’t share the same family name. - http://www.indianexpress.com/storyOld.php?storyId=38320&spf

And http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1416

HTH --Rrjanbiah (talk) 05:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, the Indian Express link is helpful. It doesn't say that "Viswanathan Anand" is wrong, however, and in fact chessbase uses that name order even at the link you provide. It's common in English (but not universal) to put an Indian given name last, as explained in Template:Indian name that has been placed at the top of the article for some time. Commonsense isn't the standard in wikipedia, sources are, and the there are dozens of English-language sources that say "Viswanathan Anand". (I'm sure there are actually thousands, but the article would never list them all.) You're mistaken if you think this is an internet artifact, as "Viswanathan Ananad" is the name order used in English-language print sources as well. Please explain if you can why The Times of India uses an allegedly wrong spelling of Anand's name. Quale (talk) 06:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

He clearly says "I’m Anand...I am Anand Vishwanathan..." and also says western people misunderstood. Then, how that cannot be wrong? Most of the info on South India are not available in internet and even if so, not in English. That's pathetic being a Wikipedian and adding South Indian information. For everything else refer Indian_name#Initials --Rrjanbiah (talk) 08:10, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Since you have some experience in this issue, it would actually be more helpful if you could answer my questions. First, "Viswanathan Anand" is not found only in internet sources; this is also the way that his name is presented in English-language print sources as I've already stated. Second, Anand is not someone from South India unknown to the rest of the world. He is prominent world-wide, and achieved that prominence during the age of the Internet. Both those facts deflate your repeated "google test" argument, so you should move on from that to other matters. Third, are you claiming that something that is commonly known in South India is unknown to the The Times of India? I'm genuinely curious about this. Newspapers are usually very careful to get the spelling of people's names correct. (They often get lots of other things wrong, but they are particular about the spelling of names.) The the Times that is best known in the US, The New York Times, also uses "Viswanathan Anand" in print. Finally, the chessbase article you pointed to correctly said that Anand should be referred to as "Anand" and not "Viswanathan", but the article itself always uses "Viswanathan Anand". So your claim is also that the very article written to clear up confusion about Anand's name spells it wrong? And it does this after talking to Anand himself about his name? I'm afraid that doesn't make sense, to the point of being incredible. There is a lot more, including the fact that FIDE, the governing body of world chess also uses "Viswanathan Anand". Since Anand is that organization's world champion it is hard to understand how it could spell his name incorrectly. Quale (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Not Current World #1

As of the July 2011 FIDE ratings, Magnus Carlsen is World #1 with a 2821 rating. Anand is second with 2817. This information is also grossly wrong on the FIDE World Rankings wikipedia page. (it lists Magnus as #2 with a 2827 rating?) 69.224.41.179 (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

FIDE Rating Card vs reality

Anand's FIDE Chess Profile says his GM title year was 1985. This is of course wrong, and our article has 1988 which is the correct year. (Another editor just fixed the infobox.) Anand earned the FM and IM titles in 1985. Although his rating reached 2500 in 1987, he didn't complete the norm requirements until the following year. It's unfortunate that FIDE can't provide accurate information on its website. Quale (talk) 16:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC)