Talk:Voiced palatal fricative
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Swedish usage question
I'm aware that some speakers consider this sound interchangeable with the voiced palatal approximant [j]. On the whole, though, how many Swedes would associate that substitution with dialects or foreign accents? ISNorden 00:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am a native speaker of Norwegian rather than Swedish, but I have a hard time associating Swedish "jord" with the voiced palatal fricative. Even the article on Swedish phonology gives the same example as "jord: /juːrd/", and the pronunciation sample provided is also using [j]. It does NOT match e.g. Dutch 'goed'. I can't comment on dialects, but to my ears, this just doesn't match for standard Swedish 'jord'. Stian (talk) 13:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm German native speaker and I clearly use the voiced palatal fricative. Maybe it's just my dialect (Western Ruhr-German/ Rhinelandic), can anybody say something about that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
"In only four of the languages (Komi, Margi, Belgian Standard Dutch, Modern Greek) this sound occurs along with its voiceless counterpart." I cannot imagine what the source of this statement can be, there is no voiced or voiceless palatal fricative in Komi, just check the linked article on Komi language... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 08:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
- There were also several other problems with that statement. I have tried to correct it. --JorisvS (talk) 15:03, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
I took out the English example, and am putting it here. When I say the word "yet", I very clearly use the /j/ sound, and since there is no source given for which English dialect or dialects (if any) use this sound, I think that it should remain here until such a citation is found.
- English: yet [ʝet], "though, still, nevertheless"
--Tabun1015 16:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Might year be a better example? For that matter, /j/ before /i/ could work in a lot of other languages, too. --Tropylium 07:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
We can link directly to it right here . No way to put it down to the relevant serch results, however. Citable?
Audio for goed [ʝut] sounds like [xut]
Direct link to file: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Nl-goed_%28Belgium%29.ogg
I suggest removing it from this page.