Talk:Voiced retroflex sibilant

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"Rida" in Swedish[edit]

While I'm not a linguist myself... I don't think many swedes pronounce Rida with a retroflex fricative. Maybe it's used by some dialects, but I would say Alveolar flap is much more common. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.235.136.245 (talk) 17:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

You say "maybe." If you don't even know, then we can take it out and someone willing to include it again can source it. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 20:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[ʐ] = [ʒˠ]?[edit]

Is it possible to view this sound as a velarized [ʒ], i.e. [ʒˠ] or [ʒ̴], just like the way [ʑ] is equal to [ʒʲ]? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.56.129 (talk) 13:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

No it's quite distinct from that. [ʒˠ] would have a secondary narrowing (articulation) in the velar area, while [ʐ] is made using the tip of the tongue curled up and without any secondary articulations (and it could, technically, be velarized: [ʐˠ]). --JorisvS (talk) 14:21, 10 November 2011 (UTC)