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[edit] Semi-protect due to spam?

The only edit I see in the past 50 that would have been prevented if the article had been semi-protected is this addition of Opera to a list of example web browsers. --Ronz (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Section "Changes and updates" is heavily biased

While my additions have been removed for not meeting the standards the original, heavily biased section is still there. The section "Changes and updates" is rant in favor of the "facebook way" of dealing with user complaints about UI changes - by simply ignoring them. The section cites only one source, which is published on the slate magazine's web site, but is a commentary of the author expressing his personal views.

While it is true that facebook is a one of the "Major websites", there is at least one other major website (google) employing a different approach instead of implementing disruptive changes and then "simply to wait". While being re-desigend recently the google start page still has the same basic layout it had years before. Another example of user friendly implementation of new features (admittedly not from the web design area) is the UI of the Pine e-mail client from the University of Washington, which has been one of the major e-mail clients for many years. New features in Pine were added disabled by default so that an update almost never changed the functionality unless you went to the settings page and explicitely changed the configuration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BerlinSight (talkcontribs) 16:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Can't we do better than this?

This article sucks! The edit on June 21 was heavy handed. It would have been better to challenged controversial content piece by piece. That would have been more constructive than destructive. But I guess the latter is easier than the former. We can't all be police men.

There are far more people willing to contribute to wikipedia from experience than are willing to find sources to back what they know to be true from experience. There has to be a better way to encourage people to find sources than to just remove unsourced material. Cutting edge technology and professional trends don't usually wait for someone to state the obvious in print before evolving. I'd rather see a fairly current and thorough article that lacks sources than a well-sourced, but outdated article that covers a microscopic portion of the subject. Oicumayberight (talk) 23:57, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] PROMO?

The way this reads now, a young reader would be lead to believe that all there is to web design is coding, and all there is to coding is knowing which language to use. This reeks of promoting someone's preferred way of doing business. If it can't be a thorough article, it shouldn't be about something as specific as one or two markup languages. One could learn more from a disambiguation page. Oicumayberight (talk) 00:42, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Oicumayberight, and have more or less said this below, the article says nothing about layout or color. I would like to see a bit about the so called "rules" of web design such as the myth of "the fold" e.t.c. Inputdata (talk) 20:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

So, it seems that "Web Programming" redirects (as you might expect) to "Web Development", but "Web Programmer" redirects to this page, "Web Design". What is the rationale for that? Toddcs (talk) 08:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed that and a few others similar. There are some other broken redirects to this page: Liquid layout and Fluid layout. This topic is no longer discussed on this page and I can't find it discussed in any depth elsewhere on WP. --Kvng (talk) 15:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] HTML and CSS focus

Why are we focusing on just HTML and CSS? This article is meant to be about web design not the programming code used to make websites. If we are to include it then why are we only using HTML and CSS and not Javascript or PHP or any others? No one seams to have any real idea about what this article is about. Inputdata (talk) 20:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] First design firm?

I don't think the article would be complete without at least citing the first web-designer. According to the department of Energy, who at one time had authority over domain names, it was this guy, Phil Fischer.

http://historyofdomainnames.com/content/phil-fischer-obtains-12303-one-worded-dictionary-domain-names-defense-information-systems-fr http://historyofdomainnames.com/content/phil-fischer-northwest-online

I also think he should be credited with domaining, and domain name speculation.

Tim Northwest Magazine.

P.S. I am doing a story on this guy and I was surprised not to see him here. (matter of fact, I am really surprised not to see The Xbox Boys here too. 16 million downloads and no wiki page???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothy Reynolds (talkcontribs) 05:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

A rather dodgy WHOIS on that domain name (depertmentofenergy.org) along with a few other critical timeline errors would indicate that it is not a genuine US government site. The US government tends to use .gov for its sites. Jmccormac (talk) 14:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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