Talk:Welsh American

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Problem with the % of American population as Jones. Someone inputted the cumulative frequency (which summed for Jones, Smith, Williams etc) rather than JUST Jones.

I know this isnt my place but I know there is alot of Welsh Americans in Virginia.

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For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

24,000,000 million (24 trillion) Americans????

America named after Richard Amerike ???[edit]

Many people believe that America was discovered by, and takes its name from, Amerigo Vespucci. However, this is unlikely as newly-discovered lands were normally named after their discoverer's surname. Therefore, had America been discovered by Vespucci, it would more likely have been called "Vespuccia" or something of that ilk. It is much more likely that America was named after a Welshman named Richard Amerike, whose surname was "derived from ap Meuric, Welsh for the son of Maurice".

Um... citation needed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.39.208.10 (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

At the very least! I can't believe that has lasted since July 2007. It was changed by PeeJay2K3 to say the opposite of what it had said. It seems no-one batted an eyelid. I've restored what had been there before that change. (I tried a different edit first, but when I found what had been there earlier I felt that deserved to be restored. Klippa (talk) 11:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Languages[edit]

Under languages, only "American English" is listed. Are there no Welsh-Americans who can speak their own mother tongue? --MosheA (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

The majority of the people in the United States claiming Welsh ancestry were born here and didn't come over from Wales, so they would not speak their "mother tongue". Also keep in mind that not even everyone in Wales speaks Welsh. I checked Ethnologue, and the only countries that are listed outside of the United Kingdom for Welsh speakers are Argentina and Canada (25,000 speakers in Argentina in 1998). It does not list the United States at all, so I am guessing that American English is the only language spoken by practically all Welsh Americans. Kman543210 (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Initially Welsh was spoken in areas with a high proprotion of Welsh residents, such as the Welsh Barony or Welsh Tract in PA. However, the Welsh assimulated rather easily into the greater American culture and use of the Welsh language declined after the first generations to migrate over. This circumstance led to a Welshman, who had visited his sister in Ohio in the 1800s, to return to Wales to recruit for a Welsh speaking colony in Argentina.♦Drachenfyre♦·Talk 04:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Jones[edit]

[1] According to this, the surname is of English, not Welsh origin and is a common name in the whole British Isles. Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 07:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Another thing to keep in mind is that Jones is a common surname amongst both black and white Americans, and there is little chance that a black American would be considered Welsh. It seems like there is a lot of info in the second paragraph just on surnames which cannot be a direct indicator of ancestry. Kman543210 (talk) 08:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Jones is a Welsh surname - that above website is incorrect. See the page on Welsh Surnames [[2]]. And American racial classification is incidental whether or not someone has Welsh ancestry. Lots of African-Americans have mixed racial origins - as evidenced by scholar and activist Henry Louis Gates and his genetic connection to Niall of the Nine Hostages. Monkeydoodledoo (talk) 10:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation required[edit]

The surnames listed in this article need disambiguating if they are to remain. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:28, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Abraham Lincoln[edit]

Is there any evidence that Ab was of Welsh descent? This site indicates that he was of English descent only. [3] 216.107.194.166 (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Is Ray Milland a Welsh American?[edit]

Ray Milland is listed as a Welsh American, but he was born in Wales and I can find nothing on his own page about him becoming an American citizen. Is there any information around about him becoming an American citizen, or has he been put here by mistake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.26.64 (talk) 13:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)