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Towns & villages[edit]

Not sure if this talk section is used (properly) but should the information about wexford's population not be the population of the county and not the town of wexford which maybe should have a unique page194.237.142.10 15:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

This is the unique page for Wexford town. For the county see County Wexford.
tpower 11:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Section deletedPeter Clarke 18:09, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Coat of Arms[edit]

Coat of arms is wrong, county arms displayed, should be borough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.141.204.45 (talk) 15:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Wexford Opera[edit]

Perhaps Weford Opera deserves a separate entry?? Thoughts? Jdwexford 22:42, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course it does, like other Opera Festivals such as Glyndebourne and Garsington Opera. I'll be happy to volunteer.
--GuillaumeTell 19:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Semi Protection[edit]

I think its time to semi protect this artical to stop this recuring UFO vandalism guys.--Ferdia O'Brien 18:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

It's not that excessive at the moment so I think this can be left as it is. A problem with one of the semi-protection notices is that it is unnecessarily prominent and slaps people in the face when they look at the article.--A bit iffy 11:57, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

The trivia section seems a little pointless, the first fact is about a fictional character, and doesnt seem to do much for an artical on a town, it should really be moved to the Father Ted article, and in accoundance with the Towns & Villages decision recheached above, the Saving Private Ryan fact should be moved, since it has nothing to do with the town what-so-ever, since Curracloe isnt even flanking the town. --Ferdia O'Brien 18:21, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed section[edit]

I removed this:

==Flora and Fauna== ''Asparagopsis armata'' Harv., ''Crouania attenuata'' (C.Ag) J.Ag, ''Gastroclonium reflexum'' (Menegh. ex Zanard.) Kutz., ''Rhodymenia pseudoplamata'' var. ''ellisae'' (Duby) Guiry in Guiry et Hollenberg and ''Shottera nicaeensis'' (Lamour. ex Duby) Guiry et Hollenberg are species which, previous to 1979, had not been reported from Wexford. <ref name="Guiry, Cullinane and Whelan 79">'''Guiry, M.D., Cullinane, J.P. and Whelan, P.M.''' 1979. Notes on Irish marine algae - 3. New records of Rhodophyta from the Wexford coast. ''Ir. Nat. J.'' '''19'''(9): 304 - 307</ref>

It's badly written, completely meaningless to the average user, and doesn't indicate its notability. Its mere factual presence in the town does not make it encyclopaedic. Joe D (t) 00:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC) I came upon this ref. - someone may wish to write up the Flora & fauna and this will be one ref perhaps of use. If you don't want it I take no hurt at it being deleted.Osborne 08:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Churches and Colleges[edit]

I've mentioned St Iberius (I'm a Protestant) but could somebody please put something in about Roe Street Church and its distinctive spire, and the impressive St Peter's College, not least the chapel designed by Augustus Welby Pugin. Millbanks 21:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Actually it's 'ROWE' street. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Menapian2000 (talkcontribs) 16:59, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

External Links[edit]

I wonder why Sarah777 removed the external link as follows:

It seems curious on the face of it that there are no external links in the article, and the one I added seems relevant to anyone researching various aspects of the city's social history. Yumegusa (talk) 14:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Restored link to the genealogy website discussed above.
Queries on the other two links here:
1) The 'official tourism website' appears to relate primarily to County Wexford
2) The link 'Wexford: A Town and its Landscape' is to a book sale page. How does that sit with guidelines?
--Yumegusa (talk) 23:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

As for 2 I'd remove it. If it was cited in the article that would be different but it just seems to be a link.--Albert.white (talk) 22:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree that those links should be removed from this article, where they are inappropriate. They shouldn't be used as justification for yet further inappropriate external links. William Avery (talk) 06:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

History: Loyalists or Ulster loyalism[edit]

Re 1798, the text reads: "Wexford town was held by the rebels throughout the fighting and was the scene of a notorious massacre of local loyalists..." I believe the most appropriate wikilink for "loyalists" here is to Loyalist where we read a historical section on "18th century Ireland", rather than to Ulster loyalism, which deals with the 20th century phenomenon. That's why I've reverted that part of the last edit. Is there an argument for the contrary position, that I'm unaware of?
--Yumegusa (talk) 11:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Beware: cutting edge[edit]

Paragraphs 3, 4 and 5 of the "Modern Wexford" section seem inappropriately detailed, with blow-by-blow listings of companies and building projects. Phrasing such as "Modern building developments in Wexford have not shirked from the architectural cutting edge" are more suited to a tourist brochure than a NPOV encyclopaedia article. The stream of time-sensitive info is also unfortunate. Any arguments for not cutting through this with a rapier?
--Yumegusa (talk) 23:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Gerald Fleming[edit]

An editor (Hhelibeb) has twice edited Gerald Fleming (in the "People" section of the article) in contradiction to the cited source. If she can cite a verifiable reliable source supporting her assertion that Fleming was born in Waterford, let her do so. Otherwise the text must stand, in accordance with WP guidelines. --Yumegusa (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, about that. The source clearly states that Gerald Fleming was 'from' there, not 'born there'. To say he was born there is to jump to comclusions. In any case, Wexford's hospital did not have a maternity unit in the 50s when Mr Fleming was born. He was born in Waterford in 1957.--Hhelibeb (talk) 16:50, 23 October 2009
Okay then, let's amend the text of the article to say he's from there (whatever that means). But please tell us of your source to support your repeated assertion that Fleming was born in Waterford. --Yumegusa (talk) 21:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

That's better. For your information, where someone is 'from' is generally a self-identifying property and does not indicate place of birth. For example, Mark Knopfler was born in Glasgow but is 'from' Newcastle. I didn't put the Waterford part in the article, only the discussion, as an online source does not exist as yet. I may ask him to put something online but I'm really not that petty! --Hhelibeb (talk) 09:56, 24 October 2009

Quality and peacock[edit]

I have just done some work on the quality and peacock issues within the article, but much remains to be done. Significant tracts of the article are composed in a colloquial style, not suitable for WP. Both these issues need continued work, i will certainly do some, but i also invite other people to join in. Darigan (talk) 14:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Patrick Redmond[edit]

As per article edit, I have placed the removed content here, and invite any of the anon IPs (or anybody else for that matter) to offer some indication of the notability of former amateur boxer, Patrick Redmond:

" * Patrick (Paddy) Redmond, an amateur boxer, nicknamed 'Whacker' was born and lived in Wexford for much of his life. "

Cheers Darigan (talk) 10:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Not notable. I found this on the UK site boxrec.com, but it says of its subject, "nationality United Kingdom" and makes no mention of Wexford, nor Ireland at all. Can find nothing else online. --candyworm (talk) 16:05, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Cry Before Dawn[edit]

An anon editor here added an entry for the 1980's pop group Cry Before Dawn to the "People" section of this article. I reverted on the basis that the section was intended to list people from Wexford, not rock bands. Subsequently user Jongleur100 reverted my edit here claiming in her edit summary, "They are notable enough to have a Wiki article. If you remove them you will have to delete the entire section." I have no interest in wasting my own and other people's time in a petty edit war, but is it clear to no-one but me that this section "People" is is called "People" because it is meant to contain a list of people (only)? Is the solution to rename the section to "People and rock bands"? I don't think so. If the band is really worthy of inclusion in this article, then mention needs to be placed elsewhere, perhaps in a new section "Wexford in popular culture"; compare the Acton, Greater London article, where mention of The Who is found in its "Acton in popular culture" section. It seems clear that, only if individual members are notable, should a link to their articles be placed in the "People" section. Is there any precedent for taking a different approach? --candyworm (talk) 14:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Done, on the basis that silence is consensus. --candyworm (talk) 22:38, 17 October 2010 (UTC)