Talk:White American

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Raquel Welch[edit]

Raquel Welch is definitely not a good example of a White Hispanic. You can obviously see that she has indigenous traits in her factions. I've been looking for a photo of her Bolivian father, but considering how racially mixed most Bolivians are, and how strong the indigenous component is in that country, I highly doubt her father was of pure Spanish descent. I'm from Uruguay, probably the whitest country in Latin America (Argentina used to be quite white too), and nobody here would consider her to be pure white. A good example of a White Hispanic living in the US would be Alexis Bledel, Frankie Muniz, Martin Sheen (real surname Estevez), Guillermo del Toro, Cristina Saralegui or Pitbull. Those people obviously have no indigenous or african ancestry --186.52.54.184 (talk) 19:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

"obviously". Always a suspect word to me. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
And looking at people is a terrible way to determine ancestry; one of the hideous ironies of the racist regime in South Africa was the people who looked white but were legally black, or vice versa. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:48, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Caucasian American used instead of White in a study[edit]

The terms “White American” or “European American” were deemed problematic for Latinos who might categorize themselves as White or as having a European heritage. In contrast, people of Latin descent rarely use the term “Caucasian American” to define themselves. In sum, after considering several alternatives and consulting a variety of sources, we reached the conclusion that a contrast between “Latino American” and “Caucasian American” would allow us to capture meaningful distinctions that perceivers may make regarding the relative prototypicality of these groups.

from “Adios” to the American Dream? The Interplay Between Ethnic and National Identity Among Latino and Caucasian Americans Thierry Devos, Kelly Gavin, and Francisco J. Quintana. They decided that Caucasian American was more useful than White or Euro when studying Latinos who are self-identifying and may have minor admixture of European ancestors. Caucasian American was deleted as a separate article and redirected here. Alatari (talk) 05:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

"European American"[edit]

I've been rv-ing this edit by the IP to put "European American" into the article. I'm not a Yank, but as far as I can make out, that's basically a term nobody uses (European American says about 2% of white Americans so identify). I invite comments from other editors; am I doing the right thing? Pinkbeast (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

  • You are correct in that all that should be present in this other than a See Also and possibly a statement that European Americans are a subset of White Americans; each has its own article. See the coverage criteria in each article for details. European Americans also has its own category: Category:European Americans, which includes people of European country origins--most of whom are also white, for various historical reasons. Hmains (talk) 01:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
    • 90% of people who identified as white on the 2010 census knew of their European ancestry. The 2010 census application had it listed as White or European American. I reverted because they correctly added some new languages but then corrected the lead which state or European American because white American is obviously a wider category. Alatari (talk) 09:12, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
      • Hello, i added also "European American" because white race called "Indo-European peoples" who immigrated from east Europ (today ukraine, georgia and russia) to India, East Middle, North Africa and West Europe, i dind't what you mean of "No-one says "European American", basically." that's untrue, can't mention "White American" without "European American" the same thing with any country --شاول (talk) 11:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.96.60.202 (talk)
Note that شاول, whose signature the IP is using, is a blocked sock of User:محبةالكتب. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Ancestries of White Americans?[edit]

The current page says "The ten largest ancestries of American Whites are: German Americans (16.5%), Irish Americans (11.9%), English Americans (9.0%), Italian Americans (5.7%), French Americans (4%), Polish Americans (3%), Scottish Americans (1.9%), Dutch Americans (1.6%), Norwegian Americans (1.5%), and Swedish Americans (1.4%).[8]" which could be true, but the source isn't working for me. It goes to one page, then goes to another and not the direct link for the ancestries. Can someone put up a working source or give me a direct link on this page for these ancestries for White Americans? Thanks. Harponax (talk) 00:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)