Talk:Will Smith/Archive 3

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Triple threat

"He is one of the few personalities in showbusiness who has enjoyed success in the three major entertainment media in the US; movies, television and the music industry."

I've heard this referred to as a "triple threat". Is this an industry term, can anyone corroborate this?

Keith D. Tyler ¶ [AMA] 06:54, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Anyone who can do three things well is can be called a triple threat, no matter what those three things are. For instance, Jennifer Lopez is often called a triple threat because of her dancing, singing and acting abilities, and so on. -- Jalabi99 10:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Acting abilities? this must be a different JLo.... Myself0101 (talk) 10:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Will Smith solves a 3x3x3 cube in 55 seconds. http://www.geekarmy.com/cool/Will-Smith-Rubix-Cube.html 72.241.182.49 11:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

It's not in 55 seconds. At the beginning you can hear the woman say "two minutes" and also, if you look at the cube he already has the F2L (which is the lengthiest stage) completed at that point. --L33tmaster (talk) 10:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

The "two minutes" the woman said sounded like it was the time limit Will was given to solve the cube. Dibol (talk) 07:30, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Regardless of whether that was the time limit or not, he already had the F2L (first two layers) solved at that point. Which means the cube wasn't fully scrambled when he started. Look at the video again, you'll see that two rows (the bottom and middle) are already finished when he starts. --L33tmaster (talk) 20:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Ugly grammar

Since the article's locked and I have no account, I'd like to recommend a change from this clumsy phrase: In the television work Smith has done, his most notable role was the role of William "Will" Smith ... to this slightly cleaner one: Smith's most notable television role was that of William "Will" Smith ... 86.143.198.116 23:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree with you. The reason it is uneditable is because of the vandals that have been ruining the article. Anyway it's fixed now. If you find another bad grammar you should just let us know. TheBlazikenMaster 23:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandals might be able to help this page, not harm it. I'm being facetious, but this is a poorly written entry. It repeats information over and over, the grammar is horrible and ... it repeats information over and over. :) I suggest someone who has the power to edit this thing read it from top to bottom out loud. You'll see what I mean.

No you're wrong, vandals are those that damage the page. Vandals isn't a word for unregistered users in general, there are useful unregistered users out there. If someone edits articles to help it, you can't call that person a vandal. But you are right that there are a lot of good unregistered editors on Wikipedia. Just tell what needs fixing, and use {{editprotected}} template. It's protected because vandalism is common here. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 11:36, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Scientology?

Some tabloids claim that Will and his wife are the followers of Scientology, however, I can't find anyone who'd confirm that. They aren't on any lists of scientologist ... Does anybody have any more information? 213.161.8.138 09:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a good question. He claims he's not a member of the church. I just added the info to the article Elhector 04:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Check out http://thesuperficial.com/2008/01/will_smith_recruits_for_scient.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.24.32.38 (talk) 14:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Will Smith has come out regarding being a scientologist. His religious belief status needs to be updated with proper notation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ga1lyons (talk • contribs) 18:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

He said he respects it, he's not a member of the church. IronCrow (talk) 22:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

W. S. really does redirect to this page.

Don't believe me? See for yourself. If you wanna remove it fine, but please don't just revert me, and keep the redirect to this page, if you wanna remove the note, please change the redirect. We already have enough hidden messages, I don't want to have to put one because of this redirect. TheBlazikenMaster 13:14, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems it doesn't anymore. It goes to a disambiguation page now looks like. Good day (this reply is probably not even necessary at this point in time lol) ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

That's because I added this comment several months ago. Dude, look at the timestamp. It's there for a reason. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Obviously. That's why I said it isn't necessary at this point in time, you don't have to give me a stern talking to, gosh. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

DID I REPLY QUICK ENOUGH TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS DISCUSSION???

What's going on?

what's going on with this article? 2 infoboxes which differ on the birthday? what the hell? Sai2020 05:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, strange indeed. I have something to do now, so if it won't be fixed in 2008 I will try to fix it by then. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 17:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Hitler Controversy

on the Will Smith article, you put all this info and called it a scandal. I would cite this as non-neutrality. It is not a "scandal" - it's media blowing things out of proportion and trying to shape the public's view of Will Smith really. Every press conference he has ever had is not on the article and neither is it for other actors and famous persons. You seem to want to discredit Will Smith too for some reason and really, it's not cool to do that to any person or article.

I agree. It's not a scandal; it's a media flap. --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

In fact, I have just now deleted the whole section "Hitler scandal" because the decision to include this so called "scandal" or controversy or whatever you want to call it is itself non-neutral. There is not one press conference or comment of Will Smith's listed in his article, so I find it hard to believe that this purposeful media-twist bares the most importance about Will Smith. It's really a shame though how this stuff happens, just for no reason.

Deleting isn't the way to handle it. I described the reporter's role, i.e., attributing to Smith the view that 'everyone is basically good'. --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

And finally, this "scandal" is not properly placed in the Personal Life section of the article. Nor does it fit in the Career or any other section. It simply doesn't have a place in Will Smith, the article. Nor would you or anyone else like it if someone wrote in your autobiography of sorts that you said some insignificant statement that some people misconstrued to haunt you for the rest of your life. I know I wouldn't, and I've said some things at times that I had to correct right away for fear of misinterpretation, but it doesn't mean I have to be hassled about it forever now. Will they be asking Will Smith, "Are you an anti-Semite?" If they do, then you can really see how low the media will sink to get a story. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed: it wasn't an aspect of his personal life. It was an interview with a reporter. Should we create a "media relations" section for him? --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but there is 808,000 Google hits.[1] The whole story has world wide coverage. The Wikipedia is no place for censorship. See Mel Gibson DUI incident.

I don't rely on the word "scandal". I will use "controversy" instead.

Every press conference he has ever had is not on the article Every event which has world wide coverage should be included to the Wikipedia.

You seem to want to discredit Will Smith too for some reason. No. I am just interested in such controversies.

It simply doesn't have a place in Will Smith, the article. I am sorry, but there has to be some place and I again don't rely on the Personal Life section.

Nor would you or anyone else like it if someone wrote in your autobiography of sorts that you said some insignificant statement that some people misconstrued to haunt you for the rest of your life. Mr. Smith has apologized and his apology was accepted. No reason to hide what happened.

Will they be asking Will Smith, "Are you an anti-Semite?" No, since the whole story has already ended.

—V. Z. ^{Talk • Contributions • Edit counter} 19:04, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Is there a link available to the "apology"/"clarification"? I noticed that some reports are calling it an apology and others calling it a clarification. A reference to the full statement would be good so the full context of the "response" can be obtained. -- Tony G 01:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Well we certainly hope so V.Z.! I guess you like to quote a lot but that's alright. You make some good agreeable points. I was only worried that people reading about Will Smith on Wikipedia would be like in their heads, "Is Will Smith anti-Semitic? I don't like this guy" just because of some media coverage that only seems to exist because of a media twist. That's what I meant about the neutrality. And yes controversy is definitely a better word if the story must be included. Not hide anything, but I just wanted that his image isn't inappropriately, unnecessarily, and baseless-ly damaged, if that makes sense. take care, and happy New Year

~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 04:00, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I have been reading stories like this for decades. You have to consider what part is the reporter adding his own evaluations vs. what part is Will Smith expressing himself. Here's the relevant section from the article:

Smart, friendly and funny, you have to wonder if anything ever upsets Will Smith's good nature.

"Well, if I understand the problem then I don't get annoyed," he explained. "People driving past in the car and giving me the finger annoys my wife but it's because they think you did something to them.

"They think you're driving too slow and keeping them from getting to their daughter's birthday party, or you cut them off and didn't see."

Remarkably, Will believes everyone is basically good.

"Even Hitler didn't wake up going, 'let me do the most evil thing I can do today'," said Will. "I think he woke up in the morning and using a twisted, backwards logic, he set out to do what he thought was 'good'. Stuff like that just needs reprogramming.

"I wake up every day full of hope, positive that every day is going to be better than yesterday. And I'm looking to infect people with my positivity. I think I can start an epidemic."

You see how the reporter (1) backs up his own opinion of Smith's 'good nature' with an actual quote from Smith - meant to illustrate the reporter's evaluation. This is followed by (2) the reporter putting words into Smith's mouth, i.e., the belief that 'everyone is basically good'. The back up for this is Smith's quote about Hitler.

Perhaps we should add that Smith said he was angry about being misinterpreted. [2] --Uncle Ed (talk) 20:33, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I moved the Hitler Controversy "up" from a sub-subheading to a subheading.

Also, I attempted to clarify that it was the reporter's observation that sparked the flap. Smith never said "everyone is basically good", which the ADL so strongly objected to. IMHO the reporter put words in his mouth. The reporter was following a pattern of "observation and illustration". The last such instance was the "basically good ... Hitler" thing. --Uncle Ed (talk) 12:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

He is an amazing actor. He has won 45 awards in the music category and 65 awards in the acting category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.33.195.71 (talk) 04:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I really have to ask if this section is really necessary. Concidering the "controversy" that surrounded this comment seemed to last a manner of days. It was written off immediate as a misquotation. Really, controversies like these should only be added to an actors' page if it has a long term affect on his career. Shown from this, I am Legend was boycotted by the Jewish for a whooping three days before it was called off. It was a misquotation, so there really is no need for a section, let alone three paragraphs worth of it. Lionheart08 (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Lionheart08. Why is this part of the article? I'll tell you why. Someone who doesn't like Smith very much has put this here in the first place. And others who also don't like Smith for whatever reason are keeping it here. This goes against Wikipedia's neutrality policy. It's not that the story needs to be hidden from the public; trust me it's all over the internet as these things are. We're just saying it doesn't need to be on his Wikipedia article. It has no lasting effect, like Lionheart08 mentioned and was a mess-up on the reporter's part, nothing to do with Smith's beliefs about Hitler - we all know he is one of the worst of history.

~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 21:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm collecting anecdotes like this for an article on media flaps, that is, disturbances caused by reporting - rather than real events which are simply reported.

The reporter caused a stir by putting words in Will Smith's mouth. Smith then "clarified his remarks" in a way that made it quite clear that the reporter was the one whose idea was being presented; the reporter made his own interpretation and falsely attributed it to Smith.

The way Smith handled the mistake (or ethical lapse?) of the reporter shows something of his character. "Don't mess with Will", basically. So it's relevant: it shows how Will Smith respond to inaccurate press coverage.

When I get enough of these for an article, I'm going to write about the general phenomenon of reporters who stir things up like this. --Uncle Ed (talk) 21:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The section clearly suffers from recentism and to dedicate a whole section to it is undue weight. This is more Wikinews material than encyclopedic stuff. Wikinews was made for things that have short bursts of coverage but no long term historical or encyclopedic importance. This issue isn't going to be relevant several months from now. So unless it has a significant impact on his career, it really doesn't warrant a section. About 1/4 of this biography (excluding the lead-in) is dedicated to a misunderstanding that was settled after a grand total of 3 days! Spellcast (talk) 04:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

While I don't mind that it's no longer in the article, what he said about Hitler needing some "reprogramming" does seem to indicate that he's now a scientologist. Should he be catgorised as one?Ticklemygrits (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:BLP, he should only be categorised as a Scientologist if he explicitly identifies as one. Spellcast (talk) 19:50, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

The man in black won, the media (World Entertainment News Network) lost: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jlc94tbWgxe5R-2CZ2pkbCN3PILwD8UVSUKO0 That media flap is over with. --To bigbye (talk) 03:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

What's up with the troll warning?

I don't remember any trolling going on here. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 15:45, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I added it due to will smith being a racist 4chan meme, included in the WOLL SMOTH, I am legend, and bel-air, memes Prophet0014 (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

How is it racist?131.123.68.50 (talk) 01:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not racist. Will Smith is the only black guy 4chan doesn't hate. That said, he is a meme, and you can expect a limited amount of trolling here. 72.150.100.43 (talk) 03:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

The caption I added to the image Time 100 Will Smith c.jpg

Can I ask what was wrong with it? Why was it reverted? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 23:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

It was unnecessary. --Maycomb County (talk) 18:21, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

You're right, it was way too obvious. Even to those that don't know him. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Scientology

is Mr. Smith a scientology freak or not —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.138.191.154 (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

It's covered on the page. DanTheShrew (talk) 15:05, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you an anonymous freak? --To bigbye (talk) 03:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I am —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.84.1.71 (talk) 01:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

PICTURE

I just wanted to add...

The current picture is ridiculous. And no, I dont have a better one; if I did I would replace the current one. Freeth (talk) 04:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Current picture is garbage. Change it.

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 23:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Can't you use the I,Robot picture from that page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.5.155 (talk) 06:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Christian

In response to this edit, Category:American Christians shouldn't be added unless anyone can give a reliable source. There's nothing in the article to suggest it and I couldn't find an interview or anything where he identifies as one. So unless anyone gives a reference, it should be removed for now. Spellcast (talk) 11:05, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ethnicity

I removed the bit about his ethnicity. If anyone can find a source for it, especially on him being part Native American, just add it back in. IMDB isn't a reliable source since it's a user edited site. Spellcast (talk) 04:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually IMDB is a reliable sources it goes through a series of editors not just one. It's more secure then wikipedia in some ways. For a number of things a source must be stated in order for it to be put up. Also then how we gonna find more on his ethnicity that's hard as hell and it's kinda wrong to just ignore things like that. Also if his Native American heritage is removed then his African American heritage should be removed as well. Since that isn't sourced either.Mcelite (talk) 16:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)mcelite

Religion

I added some about Smith's religious beliefs, as can be viewed in this article - I hope this works, I'm a newb to properly editing Wikipedia articles. Let me know if I got anything wrong. Fatzebra (talk) 22:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Good job this clears things up about his religion. Hopefully other issues can be resolved as well.Mcelite (talk) 22:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)mcelite

The Last Pharaoh

Hey everyone. nice page. anyone hear about this.... http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/great_pharaohs_of_egypt/news/1702885/

Says Will Smith is possibly lined up to play Taharqa in a film called The Last Pharaoh. No release date or anything tho. Just thought u all should know. HOLLA Scott Free (talk) 04:15, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Where do the Woll Smoth vandals keep coming from?

I mean seriously, that Woll Smoth vandalism is as common as the false assumptions of Smith's death used to be before I added that hidden message (and believe me I have no plans on removing it.), how can we tack those vandals down? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 13:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It's been a variety of IPs and users ... I don't think there is any block that can be put in place. We might consider asking Cluebot to recognize "Woll Smoth" as a trigger phrase, because that makes the removal automatic. Since it's confined to one article, his owner might not be happy about that.Kww (talk) 13:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Great idea, it should be added to a blacklist, it isn't used anywhere on the mainspace. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 13:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Who's is family?

There is no refernce to is family in the personal life section, ie has he got any brothers or sisters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.102.5.155 (talk) 06:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Will Smith's new private school to teach Scientology

Staff (2008-05-19). "Will Smith's new private school to teach Scientology". Macquarie National News. Macquarie Radio Network Limited. Retrieved 2008-05-18.

An interesting development. Cirt (talk) 00:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Dawar, Anil (2008-05-29). "Will Smith funds school teaching Scientology creator's study method". The Guardian. Guardian News and Media Limited. Retrieved 2008-05-20.

Another WP:RS/WP:V source. Cirt (talk) 10:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hebert, Melissa (2008-05-20). "Will Smith goes back to school; Katie Holmes goes to Broadway: The Morning After". The Plain Dealer. Cleveland Live, Inc. Retrieved 2008-05-21.

Another. Cirt (talk) 14:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Carla Rivera (2008-06-29). "Scientology is focus of flap over Will Smith's new school". Los Angeles Times.

Alientraveller (talk) 17:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

This article should be featured

Now this an article all about how Will Smith's life that got flipped turned upside down. If you just sit right here it tells how he became the prince of his hollywood career. It was doing just fine when a couple of trolls they were up to no good started making vandalisms in the paragraphs. There was one small vandalism and the admins got scared. They said "ya semi protectin till the vandals go away". I reverted bad edits and when I saw them they had rumors in the writing. If anything I could tell these were lies but I was like whatever yo home to front page! This should be a featured article for sure. Look at the front page I could see it there. To sit as the article of today!YVNP (talk) 18:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Then you should just go ahead and nominate. Nobody's doing it for you. Go to WP:FAC to do it. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

You should became an hero.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.212.18.166 (talk) 22:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Arequest to cite a source and add career details

We're within a few weeks of the first anniversary of Will Smith as a semi-protected article. If such protection is really justified, could someone do the following:

This summary from the website called The Numbers has assembled some useful information on Smith that could be cited as a reference for the existing section on the box office grosses of his films, as well as for new details on his career, such as the salaries he's been able to command.

If someone finds it justifiable to unprotect the article (which I think is warranted), please do so and I will make the changes myself. Thanks — 67.101.5.16 (talk) 11:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC).

Why don't you just register and do it yourself? --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 10:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

There is already a source for his BO grosses, boxofficemojo, which is considered an RS. Darrenhusted (talk) 10:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Page Vandalism

Just about an hour ago I fixed a vandalism problem on the page. I think I got it pretty fast though. But just a heads up. It had Avril Lavigne written all over it, literally. jesusfreak210 (talk) 20:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Not in "African-American actors"

I just noticed that neither Will Smith nor his wife (Jada Pinkett) is listed in the African-American actors category. I'll add their names. ChrisWinter (talk) 19:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

That was because a while ago someone said that he couldn't be in any African American category unless there was a source for him actually being a member of this ethnic group. ElijahTM (talk) 08:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Notable?

"Smith's most notable television role was that of William "Will" Smith (his namesake role) in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air."

Citation needed. Better to say that it was his first major role. --68.161.173.108 (talk) 11:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Unsuitable reference / request for help

The last paragraph in the Scientology section says that Smith is funding the construction of a Scientology school. The citation listed is a dead link, and it also has Chanology in the site name, making it very, very suspect. I didn't want to take it down, because it might be true. Can anyone verify whether he's actually funding the construction of this school? If this gets no replies, and if my research comes up with nothing, I'll delete the sentence and the citation. Let me know if I'm doing anything wrong. Benjamin.s.quigley (talk) 03:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Beat you to it. It's gone.Kww (talk) 11:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, look at the very next topic, where someone provided this reference. (http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/05/19/Will_Smiths_new_private_school_to_teach_Scientology) Should we put it back now? Is this the same thing? Benjamin.s.quigley (talk) 16:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is the same thing and it should be added to the article. I will get to it soon if no one else had added it. Cirt (talk) 23:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Information in france the single "Men in Black" have peak 1 place and sold more than 700000 cd's of the song a great success in this country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.3.43.57 (talk) 19:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Error In A Timeline

Under filmogrophy where it says The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air if you go over to the right it says TV (1990-1997), that is incorrect. The Fresh Prince was on TV from 1990 to 1996. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.178.118 (talk) 17:24, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Will and Jada's open marriage

According to this article http://womansday.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=590435 Smith declares that he and his wife have an open relationship where it is okay for extramarital affairs.

''"Our perspective is, you don't avoid what's natural and you're going to be attracted to people." he says. "And if it came down to it, then one would say to the other: 'Look, I need to have sex with somebody. Now, I'm not going to if you don't approve of it'."''

Should this be added to the personal life section?

No. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

What is this?

{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 250K |counter = 3 |minthreadsleft = 1 |algo = old(30d) |archive = Talk:Will Smith/Archive %(counter)d }}

TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 20:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Does it not auto-archive? Darrenhusted (talk) 08:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Add to infobox: Spouse: Jada Pinkett Smith

He's listed as hers'.
I would do it myself, but the article is locked.
Here's the code:

| spouse = [[Jada_Pinkett_Smith]] (1997-Present)

--Dougbast (talk) 03:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Will and the water wings

According to media sources Smith needs floatation aids for swimming. ^[1] MarcSchoenefeld (talk) 09:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

This detail was unfortunately deleted from the main article, see "Wikipedia edit history".

I think the give away may be these words "askmen.com/gossip" in your ref. Darrenhusted (talk) 09:13, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

That was the only english reference on this topic, this german tv magazine interview supports the statement ^[2] Q:Your new movie is called "The Pursuit of Happyness". What makes yourself happy? A: To watch my kids in the swimming pool. I cannot swim because I never learned it. ... MarcSchoenefeld (talk) 17:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Anti-Scientologists target Will Smith

Staff (September 4, 2008). "Anti-Scientologists target Will Smith". The West Australian. West Australian Newspapers Limited. Retrieved 2008-09-04.

Interesting info to incorporate into the article. Cirt (talk) 07:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistency

I noticed that in the table of Mr. Smith's filmography, The Legend of Bagger Vance is listed as having a budget of $80M. While the actual wiki page states that it only had $60M. Could someone please clarify on my talk page, Thank You Darth Marik87 (talk) 18:48, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

- I realize that the figures are estimated, but a $20M difference is still pretty big —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darth Marik87 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

New movie

The Last Pharaoh is not in his filmography the link i found this out at is http://www.willsmith.com/news/newsItem.cfm?cms_news_id=34 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doodlecrazy (talk • contribs) 08:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Additional details

Someone should change the part about Smith playing Obama to President- elect or just put it to President Obama since he'll be one in two months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.27.221 (talk) 00:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Scientology

I hate Scientology as much as the next guy, but does half of Will Smith's personal life section really need to be about his links to Scientology. If he were a devout Scientologist it would make sense, but he isn't. What gives? Livingston 10:31, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

change at the end, that the tests used to be free. that doesn't need to be in there

I know its so weird isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigkiller555 (talk • contribs) 19:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Criticism section

so many critics are mentioning an alleged god complex now. 167.206.75.157 (talk) 17:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Catchphrase

How come there's nothing about his catchphrase in this article? He says "Aw hell nah" in 90% of the movies he appears in. The only time they don't use it is in his serious movies like "Pursuit of Happiness" and "I Am Legend" or in his brief cameo in "Jersey Girl". It just seems like something worth mentioning. 99.240.191.134 (talk) 20:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Please unlock.

Seriously, it's not like he's involved in an ongoing event or is a controversial political leader or anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.26.69 (talk) 16:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The article was protected due to the high level of vandalism it received on a regular basis (viewing the protection log can prove more). If you'd like the article to be edited with new information or other general edits, you can create an account or ask others to edit for you. DiverseMentality 18:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Infobox Change?

Current infobox is {{Infobox musical artist}}; should it be changed to {{Infobox Actor}}?? - Mjquin_id (talk) 02:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

will smith

when was wilard smith born and what place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.219.203 (talk) 23:58, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

In west philadelphia, born and raised. On the playground is where I spent most of my days... Jwray (talk) 05:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Salary Figures

I was dubious when these were added as they weren't sourced and I'm unsure as to whether this specific information has been publicised. I'm assuming that these are estimated figures, and as such, shouldn't really be in the article. Now the removal of them has been reverted with no source added again, I'm asking interested parties to get a source for the figures within two weeks or I'll remove them from the page. Speculation has no place here. --Fol de rol troll (talk) 10:57, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Then add a fact tag, someone tried to remove them and messed the table up, so I reverted it. If you have a concern add a fact tag rather than imposing a two week deadline. Or even better, source it yourself. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:05, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay then, I shall add the fact tag. The deadline was given because I don't think the necessary information can be sourced. I'm sure that there is lots of speculation and possibly agreed upon figures, but rather than add a clumsy 'Assumed Salary' column or 'believed to be' next to all the figures, I think it would be better to clear it all together. --Fol de rol troll (talk) 11:15, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

There's no need, I sourced it from the same source as the box office numbers at the bottom. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm unsure as to the veracity of the website given, as it lists idle speculation as one of it's main aims! I'm not trying to be awkward, I'm just trying to find something that links the salary figures back to the studios or Smith himself. The website used doesn't give it's sources (fair enough) but I'm again unsure as to whether this is just speculation. --Fol de rol troll (talk) 11:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

You're not going to get a studio or Smith taking about salary, but they do release their accounts and that is were there figures are gathered from. And The Numbers is counted as an RS for the box office so it can be reliable for other figures. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:31, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Personal life

IN THE 'PERSONAL LIFE' SECTION, IT SAYS "Smith was raised by his parent, Willard and Caroline,". THERE SHOULD BE AN 'S' AFTER 'PARENT', BUT I CAN'T EDIT THE PAGE TO CORRECT THIS FRANKLY INCREDULOUS ERROR. PLEASE FIX ASAP OR I WILL GO BANANAS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.232.247.230 (talk) 01:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. — Σ xplicit 02:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Salary

The salary info in filmography, of course unsourced (after all Wikipedia is the king of never sourcing anything), needs to be clarifed (or, perhaps, SOURCED)

Will Smith was paid 144 million for Hancock? Really? (20 mill plus 20% of gross). I highly doubt that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.255.228.44 (talk) 02:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

mistake

in the article first it says will smith met jeff townes in his teens at a party, a paragraph later the two are referred to as "childhood friends"

someone correct this plz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.53.88.129 (talk) 06:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

citation #4

it's dead.Zeeroid (talk) 05:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The Last Pharaoh

On his website it said last year on september 11 that he has announced that this was happening in 2010 and he is playing as taharqa is this a fact or fiction?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.176.138 (talk) 23:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Will has sometimes referenced meticulous OCD behaviour including ensuring all dollar notes in his pocket are in order pointing the same way, lining up money on tables etc. I've seen this mentioned in a few places. Is there any record of him suffering from a compulsion disorder.. and if so, is it writable? Dvmedis (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

As far as I remember, no. If a reliable comes up with proof if this behavior, then it can be mentioned. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 23:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't find any mention of it admittedly, but googling 'Will Smith OCD' unfortunately is useless, as he has such a common name.. so there are all sorts of Smiths. I've def seen this mentioned a few times in TV interviews.. so I will leave this to rest for now; but if anyone knows of a source please do add! :) Thanks Dvmedis (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's OCD. I do some OCD-ish things too like that, especially the dollar notes in pocket, everything lined up correctly on shelves, but I don't have OCD. OCD is for more serious things that would get in the way of life, I have a friend with OCD and he tells me he constantly has to get up at night and adjust his TV several times, otherwise he gets upset about it. --71.71.95.168 (talk) 09:35, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

external links addition

We should add this link to external links: Will Smith Fan Club

Mpece (talk) 02:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

No. --Micwa (talk) 20:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Trey Smith

I don't get it; when clicking the name of his first son "Trey" in the personal life section, I'm led back to that very section. A link linking to itself doesn't make much sense. Is there a reason for this? 217.236.221.85 (talk) 14:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

It's because it used to link to an article on Trey Smith. That article was "redirected" to this article and the link here was not removed. If the redirect may become a separate article again in the future, links to the redirects are often kept, but I agree self-links can be confusing. Gimmetrow 15:09, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'd prefer the removal of self-links, but points can be made both ways I guess. Is there a way to find out what other pages link to the "Trey Smith" article/redirect? ErrorMsg (talk) 15:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trey Smith, and specifically Special:WhatLinksHere/Trey_Smith, which is linked from the deletion discussion. Gimmetrow 15:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! ErrorMsg (talk) 16:18, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Change Request

{{editsemiprotected}}

Link to reference number 21 is broken.
Here's what I believe to be a good substitute:
<ref>name="SmithObamaCinematicPick">{{Cite web|url=http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/people/813369,obamamovies022608.article|title=In the movie of Obama's life, he'd pick Will Smith to star|publisher=[[Sun-Times]]|accessdate=2009-12-9|date=2008-02-26|quote=Will and I have talked about this because he has the ears!}}</ref>
174.112.252.20 (talk) 07:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Done Bejinhan Talk 10:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

In filmography, Seven Pounds, Will Smith received a nomination the NAACP Image award for outstading actor in a motion picture, could you pehaps change this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurelio226 (talk • contribs) 01:39, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

In family and early life; Met DJ Jazzy jef at a party. In Early work; With his childhood friend DJ Jazzy jef. Which one is correct?--Edamsa (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)--Edamsa (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Explanation of terms

"...and Townes overseeing the mastery of mixing and scratching " -- what does this mean ? If there's an article on hip-hop terminology, I think a link to it would be beneficial.76.113.104.88 (talk) 18:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Cartoon KAT-TUN

Will smith has appeared on the Japanese TV show Cartoon KAT-TUN. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htKqr1X_1x8#movie_player —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.72.25 (talk) 19:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Box Offices Grosses

Bad Boys II budget was actually $250 million, this was an amazing hit movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallardogallardo (talk • contribs) 20:43, February 13, 2010

College Offers Turned Down

Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) offered Smith a scholarship, and the Milwaukee School of Engineering accepted him into their program. But when decision time came along, Smith chose not to attend college. He soothed his mother’s disappointment about this decision with a signed record contract and the reassurance that he had a workable plan.

Read more: Smith, Will(1955–) - Actor, rap musician, Launches Television Career, Chronology, Early Movie Career, Continues Success, Stars in Ali http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/4469/Smith-Will-1955.html#ixzz0hMSXAnOv

http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/4469/Smith-Will-1955.html

Even at Overbrook High School, Smith says, "I'd cut up the class but still take in what the teacher was saying." Amused by his smooth excuses for missing assignments, some teachers called him Prince Charming. One, however, complained to Smith's mother that, she recalls, Will "was testing at a college level but just barely passing." Prodded by Mom, Smith buckled down and was accepted by the Milwaukee School of Engineering in 1986. But by that time he had other plans.

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20141852,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen1963 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Forth Coming movies

Flowers for Algernon 2: Doesn't exist, its listed two time but goes back to the same IMDB site both times. Additionally he's supposed to pay Steven Hiller in both, his character from Independence Day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.124.197 (talk) 16:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Picture

Will Smith is a very attractive man and a talented actor. He deserves to have an attractive picture on his Wikipedia page. The picture on his page does not do him justice. He always looks good, but we should put up a better picture. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.176.229.130 (talk) 04:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Bad Boys III

You guys should put Bad Boys 3 in filmography —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.251.255.12 (talk) 17:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes

This article is one of a small number (about 100) selected for the first week of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Many of the articles were selected semi-automatically from a list of indefinitely semi-protected articles.
Please confirm that the protection level appears to be still warranted, and consider unprotecting instead, before applying pending changes protection to the article.

However with only a few hours to go, comments have only been made on two of the pages.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially.

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 20:49, 15 June 2010 (UTC).

American Scientologist category

Note that per WP:BLPCAT we should not add Category:American Scientologists to this article. Adding the category requires the subject to have publicly self-identified as a member in a reliable source. Will Smith has to date consistently denied that he and his wife are Scientologists. --JN 466 16:41, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced content deleted

A fair chunk of unsourced content was deleted here. Editors may want to restore that content, but it should be sourced before restoration. --JN 466 03:58, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Raised Baptist? In the cited source, Smith says he went to Catholic Church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.25.194 (talk) 11:27, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

World's Actor

Hello Smith, You'r the best as what do but the your market is still limited You'r son will be as good as his Dad ( you taugh him well) Please continue to bring your son back to Asia and continue to do just as good as "korate kid" So he will be bigger than you, be the World's Actor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.26.191 (talk) 03:40, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this a joke? Why would you think Will Smith reads the discussion page of his Wikipedia article? Moreover, why would you intentionally spell every other word incorrectly and use broken English? Is this a futile attempt to troll or prank? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.86.230.202 (talk) 17:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

1)I know this actor in Prince of bel air;2)i listned his first album BIG WILLY STYLISH ;3) but i didn't follow his Cinema films, stories changed enormemous, from humour to stuggles of demusure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.103.147.82 (talk) 21:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Children?

How come Will Smith's children aren't listed? Jada Pinkett Smith's page lists their children. It would only make sense to list them on his page too...I mean, if I were a father I'd want the world to know who my kids were. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbritain (talk • contribs) 03:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Will Smith is top money making movie star for 2008

In 2008, Will Smith was voted the top money-making movie star of 2008 in an annual poll of US cinema owners and film buyers. The BBC News website reported that, "Smith, star of Hancock, is only the second African-American actor after Sidney Poitier in 1968 to top the Quigley poll, which has been running for 76 years."^[3]

Will Smith has also made $5,733,873,028 globally from all of his movies combined. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abonits (talk • contribs) 12:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Fresh Prince Lyrics?

Has anyone else noticed that the opening of two sections (Early Life & Personal Life) are the lyrics to Fresh Prince of Bel-Air? I would have just deleted it but the article is semi-protected.Macbean17 (talk) 04:36, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I noticed it too. I went ahead and reversed the vandalism to how it was before. Jake43 (talk) 08:57, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I reworded the start of the "Family and early life" section, starting it with "West Philadelphia-born and raised" had already caused one vandal on April 1st to add the rest of the Fresh Prince lyrics after that. It was even tempting to me, and I never vandalise Wikipedia. So hopefully "Born and raised in West Philadelphia" will be less tempting (and it also flows better that way anyway) :) Xmoogle (talk) 09:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Dead link to Newsweek

The second reference in the Will Smith page is dead, and has been flagged as such. http://www.newsweek.com/2007/04/15/the-4-billion-man.html is the correct link, but I do not have sufficient editing privileges to fix it. - (Jonathan Burgess (talk) 04:49, 30 April 2011 (UTC))

Hi, this has been fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. --Nemilar (talk) 04:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Contact

I Think Wiki Should Add Will Smith's Contact Imformation On This Website. Sincerley Scooter Braun- Music Producer... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.108.225.157 (talk) 04:27, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Too much Scientology?

I really believe there is too much emphasis on Scientology in the Personal Life section. It seems bias. Please revise. Thank you. (69.165.152.216 (talk) 13:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC))

Smith was nearly bankrupt in 1990 when the NBC television network signed him to a contract and built a sitcom, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, around him.

bit hard to read or doesn't make sense and I can't edit it because i dont' have permissions,

can someone change it from :

Smith was nearly bankrupt in 1990 when the NBC television network signed him to a contract and built a sitcom, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, around him.

to somthing like :

Smith was nearly bankrupt in 1990 when the NBC television network signed him to a contract, to build a sitcom, The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, around him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.108.124 (talk) 14:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Beginning Sentence in Personal Life

It should be changed to "In West Philadelphia Smith was born and raised". — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaredGoodman (talk • contribs) 22:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Religion

Why his religion not showing under his picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.110.20.36 (talk) 13:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Six Degrees of Separation

Why was the 1993 movie Six Degrees of Separation omitted from Will Smith's filmography? Six Degrees of Separation is a 1993 film drama featuring Will Smith, Donald Sutherland and Stockard Channing, about a fast-talking young man (Smith's entry into mainstream cinema) who, out of the blue, prevails upon the good graces of a nonplussed NYC couple in the wake of his supposed mugging in Central Park, claiming to be Sidney Poitier's son and masquerading flamboyantly as a close friend and classmate of their Harvard-enrolled kids, and in the process upsetting their shallow uppercrust world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.51.248.10 (talk) 18:03, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Personal life

Will Smith is part owner of the NBA's Philadelphia 76ers: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7117764/joshua-harris-david-blitzer-jason-levien-smith-part-new-philadelphia-76ers-ownership-group — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.36.186 (talk) 15:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

"Woll Smoth"

Should not direct to this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.120.4.3 (talk) 19:14, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Agree That should go to a disambiguation page or something, but not directly to the will smith page.MilkStraw532 (talk) 19:16, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

OPEN MARRIAGE??

I don't believe that the link that states Will Smith is in an open marriage is credible. Can someone please tell give another source or delete that section of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.15.30.125 (talk) 16:21, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

open marriage sentence

I agree with the previous poster - the source listed for this claim seems like some random tabloid, and after researching it cannot find any evidence of it being true except in other tabloids. Should we add sections about Obama's mistress(es), Brad Pitt's illegitimate children, etc, to their pages just because a tabloid writes an article about it? I don't think so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.2.114 (talk) 03:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Agreed + Deleted

Just random nonsense, the article doesn't even say it. --Havfunonline2 (talk) 15:51, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Death hoax

Include something about the 12-27-2011 death hoax that said he fell to his death filming his latest movie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcs865 (talk • contribs) 06:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect link for 2012 movie Annie

The link for Will's 2012 movie Annie takes me to the Musical hit of the 80's under the same name. can someone get it corrected??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.87.201 (talk) 16:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

76ers

How is there nothing here about his stake in the Sixers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.141.93.21 (talk) 03:04, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Scientology Fetish

Someone seems to have gone through and added every possible link between Will Smith and Scientology, no matter how thin. Fucking half of his personal life is about him saying he's not Scientologist. It's idiotic. 130.113.38.176 (talk) 00:35, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

It is important that people know that Will Smith, while he thinks that there is a lot of value in the lessons of Scientology, is not a Scientologist. 89.242.75.37 (talk) 00:05, 11 February 2012 (UTC) hello hello

Edit request on 31 January 2012

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Please replace "Smith was born and raised in West Washington, Pennsylvania, and also spent time in Germantown in Northwest Philadelphia." with "Smith was born and raised in west Philadelphia. On the playground is where he spent most of his days. Chilling, maxing, relaxing, and shooting basketball oustide of his school. One day, a couple of guys who were up to no good, started making trouble in his neighborhood. He got in one little fight and his mom got scared, so she sent him to live with his aunt and uncle in Bel-Air."

This should be changed because the current information is not accurate. Will Smith even wrote a rap about where he grew up, and so should be changed to the information found in said rap. The verifiable source can be found at http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8TKRpT-cIP8J:www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/fresh-prince-of-bel-air-theme-song-lyrics-will-smith/79d7f72f139e21f248256cd9000ee5da+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a Shelberta.hass (talk) 17:44, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Uh, no. That was a tv character--Jac16888 ^Talk 19:24, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Birth date fucked up

Last time it was August, but now September? Someone's been fucking with the dates here, plus the citation leads to an empty search on MSN. oh the citations wiki needs to make things notable..

could someone please fix that? you ar dum — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.104.114 (talk) 22:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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129.137.178.107 (talk) It was and is not the Pursuit of Happyness... the word is Happiness thank you

Not done: it's an intentional misspelling. — Bility (talk) 20:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Will Smith ! I should to tell you distance to Ertegu.... and Mardi.... famillies and no movies for them. He does not like famillies like that. Erteguns took Atlantic from Herb Abra.... and sent him away. The owner and the producer is Herb Abra.... and the co-producer is AhmeErte.... and he is the producer of AriMard..... : co-producer of NesuhErte.... . He and Ahmet took Atlantic away from HerbAbra..... . Co-Producer Ahmet Erteg.... of Herb Abrah.... . and co-producer AriMard.... of NesuErte.... . Producer of AriMar.... is NesuhErte.... and Producer is AhmetErte..... . No movies for and the movies for LeylaErt.... for Alexander Daddari..... and WhitnPort and .... Alexander Daddari..... AudrinPartig.... . No movies for JoeMard.... . do not talk to them they got it. No movies for them. Distance all understand. StevAust.... . Damage, The Gravedancers, ..... no movies fot them. Do talk about to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.253.242 (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Early Life

I have heard that 'The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" is semi-autobiographical toward the person mentioned in this article, that is to say Will Smith. But, I ask you, how far does the autobiographical part go? Was Mr. Smith indeed assaulted in a neighborhood playground, causing his mother to send him to the custody of his aunt, did circumstances eventuate that resulted in the said Mr. Smith being moved from his family home and place in the care of his aunt, in Bel Air, as is stated in the said television series? CybergothiChé ^{word to your mother} 07:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Fresh Prince is in no way autobiographical. That was some smart alik thinking he's being cute. It's gone now. Padillah (talk) 18:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Alleged bisexuality

Will Smith has been the subject of constant rumors of bisexuality. Should this be mentioned in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.191.112.199 (talk) 10:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Not on so many levels. Not unless it is notable in some way (if he becomes an activist, for example). Not unless it is sourced by several unimpeachable sources (AP, Rueturs, and the Wall Street Journal come to mind). Not until he admits to it unequivocally in a public forum.

In other words - NO. WP doesn't do "rumors". We do verifiability. Notice, I didn't say truth either. I said verifiability. Only when we can verify a statement is it to be represented here. Padillah (talk) 18:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Needs Attention

This article needs more information on the discovery of Smith's career at the beginning. There is no information listed as to how he was found for his music. All it states are his early releases at the time he was found but no actual information on how. It does not mention which executive approached him, or from which label. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohindersuresh2 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I think there should be much more to this article in general. Nothing is written about several of his major films, and his successful solo career in music is completely ignored. Bunzobunzo (talk) 09:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

"personal life" section too scientology centered

Approximately 1/2 the text in this section consists of speculation is he/isn't he a scientologist, and comparisons of how much money he gave to scientology vs non scientology charities. I don't know whether the author is a partisan for or against scientology but it's definitely one or the other.

The whole few paragraphs could really be boiled down to a sentence saying he has read about/studied several different faiths and traditions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.84.176 (talk) 03:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 September 2012

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In the "personal life" section the article includes that part:

"In 1997 an unlawful police search of Will Smith's estate uncovered clothing worn by a girl who was missing and feared to be murdered, she was last seen with Will Smith. Smith and Jazzy Jeff were indited for contributing to the delinquency of a minor. While awaiting trial in prison, Jazzy Jeff broke down under police pressure and told authorities about other girls Smith had killed, beginning in 1990. Smith was later released on a technicality although he remains a person of interest in the ongoing investigation

As a source it cites: "www.skiphopz.com/" A website that clearly has false news and articles.

Argotera (talk) 10:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry, it's now removed. A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 15:03, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

How much did he donate to Obama's campaign?!

$4,600 does not seem to be correct. Can we double-check this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.142.65.105 (talk) 12:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

"West Philadelphia born and raised..."

This is not an encyclopedic way of phrasing this sentence. Also, Wikipedia is not a place for jokes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.13.94 (talk) 22:39, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

"most studio recent album,"

-> "most recent studio album," 141.99.63.57 (talk) 23:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 January 2013

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West Philadelphia, born and raised Harrybookless (talk) 13:53, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. And please also provide exactly what needs to be changed. Vaca tion 9 14:37, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request for 'studio recent'

I think the line "Smith's most studio recent album, Lost and Found, was released in 2005" would be better written "Smith's most recent studio album, Lost and Found, was released in 2005."

LateralusHK14 (talk) 23:32, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out. --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 01:21, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Job

Will smith has a good job, he eats tacos and apples and me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TacoBellMan1714 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Smith no longer explicitly identifies as Christian

Source: this article.

"Are both of you religious?

Will: No, we are students of world religion.

Seems like everyone’s excited about the idea that you might be religious.

Will: We respect all [religions]."

Ian.thomson (talk) 20:33, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect middle name

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Please change "Willard Christopher "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1968) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," to "Willard Carroll "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1968) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," because in an interview on the Arsenio Hall Show he admitted his middle name is Carroll. You can view the interview at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-nBWDSIRUU

76.107.29.187 (talk) 21:37, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: With a quick Google search I was unable to turn up any additional sources for this - the vast majority of search results for the phrase "Willard Carroll Smith" turned up gossip columns about his son's graduation (and were usually hitting on his son's name, not his). Every biography I find, including every one currently sourced in the article, list his middle name as Christopher. This is a comedian on a talk show that got asked a personal question he wasn't necessarily expecting - my personal guess is that he made it up on the spot. At best it's a minority viewpoint from a primary source that might deserve a passing mention in the article prose somewhere, but I don't think it even merits that. --ElHef (Meep?) 00:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Changing "Born in West Philadelphia" to "West Philadelphia Born and Raised"

Could we please just do this it will be hilarious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlothLover101 (talk • contribs) 00:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a comedy site. Aawood (talk) 11:31, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia should not be entertaining at the cost of being encyclopedic. However, there is no cost to doing this. --Chrisjwowen (talk) 11:07, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
  - I support the request. There are plenty of articles where irony and humor appear inappropriately (sometimes to be removed, sometimes not). In this case it would be harmless, would not jeopardize the encyclopedic quality of the article (assuming the statement is correct, of course). The temptation might be to add a citation for the song, but I don't know if song lyrics are considered reliable biographical sources! 70.72.197.66 (talk) 01:56, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Use of real name in Fresh Prince series

During his 2012 appearance on The Graham Norton Show (prior to the first of his two headline-grabbing performances of the Fresh Prince theme song on that program), Smith says he was advised by his Fresh Prince co-star, Alfonso Ribiero, to use his real name for the character he played because "whatever name you choose they'll call you that for the rest of your life." As a statement made on a talk show, this could be dismissed as anecdotal, but are there any articles or biographies of Smith that support this statement? Might be worth adding to the article if so. 70.72.197.66 (talk) 01:52, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Budget for Bad Boys II incorrect

Budget line for Bad Boys II should read 130 million (est) not 60 million, source imdb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.151.190.89 (talk)

Bad boys came out in 1990 not 95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.105.73.179 (talk) 17:01, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

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Please change " Willard Christopher "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1968) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," to " Willard Carroll "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1968) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," because in another interview on Despierta America, Smith and his son Jaden played a game where Jaden was asked questions about Will. One question was what's Will's middle name and Jaden answered, 'Carol'. Will said the name was correct but it's spelled 'Carroll'.

76.107.29.187 (talk) 02:18, 7 July 2013 (UTC) ^[4]

Closed as duplicate of request made below. --ElHef (Meep?) 06:11, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Religion and WP:BLP

I trimmed the section concerning his religious beliefs of repetition and excessive quoting, which violated the spirit of WP:BLP. Smith has denied being a Scientologist. Per BLP, tabloid gossip has no place here -- mention the rumor, mention Smith denying it, and end of story. No need to keep beating that dead horse. Also, per guidelines it is better to avoid excess quoting, and give a general, neutral summary of the information when possible. Regardless, Scientology rumors at best deserve a sentence or two, maybe even three, but no more. Gong beyond that violates not only BLP but places undue weight on the matter. It's important to the tabloids, sure, but has no place here. Laval (talk) 01:28, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Middle name is 'Carroll'

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Please change "Willard Christopher "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1968) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," to "Willard Carroll "Will" Smith, Jr. (born September 25, 1990) is an American actor, producer, and rapper," because in another interview on Despierta America, Smith and his son Jaden played a game where Jaden was asked questions about Will. One question was what's Will's middle name and Jaden answered, 'Carol'. Will said the name was correct but it's spelled 'Carroll'. Interview can be viewed at: http://entretenimiento.univision.com/despierta-america/videos/video/2013-05-16/jaden-smith-si-conoce-bien-a-su-papa

76.107.29.187 (talk) 02:22, 7 July 2013 (UTC) ^[5]

Ok, if there are two separate interviews where Will mentions it then that may be something worth mentioning. I still don't support changing it in the lead or infobox due to the multiple biographical sources that say otherwise, but it probably merits inclusion in the article at this point. I'll leave this open and take another look at it when I have a few minutes and I'm not quite so tired. --ElHef (Meep?) 06:14, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Support I support including this in the article if he mentioned it in the interview. -- TOW talk 19:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: as no second source has been found, and no clear reason has emerged to include it. Mdann52 (talk) 16:37, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I found another interview from the official Arsenio Hall Youtube channel in which Smith states that his middle name is "Carroll". He also says that his son, Willard III, has the same middle name. Also found reliable independent source that states his son's name at his high graduation was "Willard Carroll Smith III". I was bold and added the citations. MrBlondNYC (talk) 03:05, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Will Smith, comedian

I have added comedian to the description, many of his roles being comedic, especially Fresh Prince. DeistCosmos (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

His school and Scientology

The article should mention that the school he founded was based around Scientology. Readers need to know that when evaluating his religious beliefs. 2.102.184.122 (talk) 22:02, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

His middle name is Christopher

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Willard Christopher Smith Jr. 97.86.73.246 (talk) 13:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done:: Footnote 2 in the article says: "Note: Reliable sources give Smith's middle name as "Christopher". But reliable sources give his son's name as "Willard Carroll Smith III" and Smith stated that he and his son have the middle name "Carroll" in an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show." That appearance on the show is linked from Footnote 1, which I have checked, and he clearly states there that his own middle name is Carroll. As the "reliable sources" claimed by FN2 aren't identified, I don't feel we can make this change, although we might do so in future if very good sources are identified. (By the way, Jaden's first middle name is Christopher.) --Stfg (talk) 18:14, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

No Official source for inclusion in "Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues" as a cameo

There is no reliable source that says Will Smith was cast in a cameo appearance for Anchorman 2: The Legend Continues — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.110.5 (talk) 06:07, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

edit this article

will smith was not born in west philidelphia but born in miami. they got their info from the fresh prince theme song — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.88.160 (talk) 20:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a source saying he was born in Miami? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Update Source #15

Uhm I'm not sure how to fix this, but the URL for an article on Readers Digest has moved to http://www.rd.com/advice/will-smith-interview/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.160.118.126 (talk) 03:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I've updated it. Thanks for the notice. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Will Smith filmography

Why is Will Smith filmography it's own article? Both articles are short enough that they probably should be combined. --Tarage (talk) 05:56, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

why so short?

Why such a short article about Will Smith?!!

--Striker161 (talk) 11:43, 1 August 2014 (UTC) Agreed. There is something is seriously fishy about the (lack of) length of this page.

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Will Smith's middle name is Christopher not Carroll. Could you change it to the correct name please. 90.210.106.28 (talk) 11:26, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Not done According to the note on source 3, ""Reliable sources give Smith's middle name as "Christopher". Smith stated that he and his son, Willard III, have the middle name "Carroll" in an appearance on The Arsenio Hall Show. Smith and his son, Jaden both stated his middle name was "Carroll" in an appearance on ¡Despierta América!"

Therefore, he has stated his middle name is Carroll, so this is what Wikipedia should use. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:42, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Jayden

It says he appeared in one movie with his father, but actually it's two. After Earth, which came out last year. Could someone please add it? 74.58.164.84 (talk) 01:32, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Done Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:10, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

imdb link needs updating

Please update the imdb link. Their URLs now have a longer ID. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000226/ I accessed this wiki page on a mobile, which redirected me to http://m.imdb.com/name/nm226/ but then this doesn't redirect to the correct http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000226/. Although this redirect error is a bug on imdb, fixing the link on wikipedia would help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.28.24.10 (talk) 12:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Obama Campaign Donations

Under "Personal Life" the article states:

He donated $4,600 to the 2008 presidential campaign of Democrat Barack Obama.

I'm no expert but this seems a bit low! I searched the archives of the talk page and this topic seems to have been brought up many years ago, but so far nothing has been done to fix it. I would change it myself but the article is locked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XomokyH (talk • contribs) 08:32, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Edit: Also the link is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.199.231.178 (talk) 04:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2015

In the description for Smith's upcoming film Game Brain, it states that CTE cannot be diagnosed until after death. This is no longer true and should be corrected. http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8867972/ucla-study-finds-signs-cte-living-former-nfl-players-first-time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCD8:A:5:F5F9:A2B6:AFB7:54E0 (talk) 21:05, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

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please change "Smith was born in West Philadelphia, the son of Caroline..." and replace it with "In West Philadelphia, born and raised, Smith, the son of Caroline..." because it is significantly better wording. Hobbesisalive (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: While that's a cute reference, it would be poor grammatical structure here Cannolis (talk) 06:18, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

children needs correction

WILLARD CHRISTOPHER SMITH III should be listed as oldest child with Jada. Not sure how to confirm info.^[6]

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Not done he had Trey before his relationship with Jada, and I'm not sure the link you gave is even reliable Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:31, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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Please update his name as it is currently incorrect. Even the source for his name (source 2) shows his middle name is Christopher. This page shows his middle name is Carroll, which is incorrect. That is his mother's middle name. Name is Willard Christopher Smith, Jr. 70.190.159.186 (talk) 22:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Filmreference.com is simply wrong here. There are numerous references available for his middle name being Carroll, including multiple direct statements in different videos as well as his first son, who goes by Trey, being named Willard Carroll Smith III. -- ferret (talk) 02:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I found two biographical references both stating that his middle name is Christopher. One is Biography.com, the other a published biography by Lisa Iannucci. The Biography.com URL is "http://www.biography.com/people/will-smith-9542165", the Iannucci reference is page xv of "Will Smith: A Biography". Does that make a difference? AncientBrit (talk) 03:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Dablinks/hatnotes

To me, the original version (with separate lines of text), seems much easier to read than the amalgamated version. I have re-crafted the hat notes to a two line version, if anyone disagrees let's discuss here etc. Shearonink (talk) 23:15, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Hatnote

Why does the defensive end get his own hatnote? He was barely viewed (about 45 hits per day) before his death, and giving him own hatnote when there's dozens of other Will Smiths just screams recentism. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

I seem to remember that when Mr. Smith the football player was shot & killed there were readers coming through and erroneously changing information on this article. I don't know who originally placed that hatnote there but I appreciate it - sure seemed to cut down on the amount of vandal-reverts I was having to do. Shearonink (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Carroll or Christopher?

Reference nº 2 (http://www.filmreference.com/film/92/Will-Smith.html), which is used as a source of his full name in the beggining of the article, says it is Willard Christopher Smith, Jr., and as far as I remember, we used this name here for a long time. Why did it suddenly change? It is also in my mind that William was used instead of Willard. Am I wrong? - Alumnum (talk) 04:09, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't remember this page ever calling him "William" when in fact he is Willard. As for his middle name, he says at 4:50 here that it is "Carroll". Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Interesting, but can you find a source better than YouTube? - Alumnum (talk) 09:43, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Why, do you think the Arsenio Hall interview video was forged by pro-Carroll activists? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

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Change "Smith was born and raised in West Philadelphia" to "In West Philadelphia born and raised" in Family and early life. Kethas69 (talk) 16:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Not done as amusing as that Fresh Prince of Bel-Air reference is, it wouldn't flow very well here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:42, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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The birthdate is wrong - it is stated as Sept. 15th but it is actually Sept. 25th. 76.108.255.106 (talk) 00:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 01:52, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Birth date

date of birth is wrong. should be 9/25 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1:D20D:944C:8864:6255:E50:9F39 (talk) 23:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done no citation provided for this. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:11, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

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