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XP insecure (IE) - "Could Allow Remote Code Execution"[edit]

Now in public, didn't take long, and will not get fixed: [1] [2] comp.arch (talk) 21:00, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

A related article has been nominated for deletion[edit]

Windows XP visual styles has been nominated for deletion. The discussion is here. Pinging the following editors, who have edited this page in recent months: Brainy J, Codename Lisa, David Levy, Elizium23, FleetCommand, Guy Macon, Jeh, Joshua Issac, JsyBird2532, Lentower, Upedge, ViperSnake151, Zellfaze --AussieLegend () 16:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

What Does XP Really Mean? Is it the mirrored image of 9x?[edit]

I have got in touch with Windows XP before its releasing. The very first and official explanation of XP is eXPerience, but please take notice of form of XP in its logo: XP does present itself in the lowercase form, xp, to the upper right corner of Windows, each time we could find when it booting up. If you take a mirror against "xp", you could see into that mirror, another view similar with "9x" would crash into your eye. There is not Windows 9x at all, people just use 9x referring Windows products based on MSDOS and BIOS functions directly, such as Windows 95, Windows 98 and Windows ME. Windows Me is the very last mature release for Windows 9x, and gives way to Windows XP, a completely different product based on NT rather than 9x. And what's more, if you could increase the number from 98, you would get 99 and ninety-ten, 9X, here X stands for ten in Roman Numerical system. And Windows XP is just the one taking this position, but it is not a native(9x) descent but just a foreigner(NT) speaking the similar language(GUI). So 9x could not be used to name it, but a similar or completely reverse one, xp, just suitable to it.

If 98 in Windows 98 refers the year 1998, then xp, which comes from nineteen ninety-ten (2000), would get a new date, 2009, not for its release but for its ending. And in fact, Windows Vista released in early 2007 failed to take place of Windows XP. But only when Windows 7 released in 2009, the place of Windows XP had been shocked, and eventually it gave way to it.

XP also has other meanings! Because Max OS X released before Windows XP, so we could also guess XP with the meaning of overwhelming than X.

If X could be thought as cross, then xp has another meaning, the cross of 1990s and the first decade of twenty first century. And P stands for Product, then XP does really stand for the product of the cross between NT and 9x.--Janagewen (talk) 15:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Your "analysis" reminds strongly of Numerology. Find a WP:RS or else it doesn't belong here. A web site with similar speculation doesn't count. Jeh (talk) 10:25 am, 20 July 2014, Sunday (27 days ago) (UTC−7)
It is only a section in talk, talking about something on XP only! You don't have to judge it right or wrong, you don't have to evaluate its existence on this talk page. It does nothing with the main article! Janagewen (talk 22:09, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
I view it as a suggestion for something that might be incorporated into the main article. And anything on any talk page can be commented on by anyone. And you were way out of line for, first, deleting my reply to you, and second, deleting the entire section. See WP:TALK, please. Jeh (talk) 23:22, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Keeping in mind WP:NOTFORUM and we should be discussing with a view to improving the article with proposed edits, I will mention that one likely explanation of "XP" is that it came about because of Cairo (operating system), that is, the Greek letters chi and rho are in Latin script X and P. See also Chi Rho as a Christian symbol. Elizium23 (talk) 01:49, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
OK, I've no right to remove what I post. That is all right. If you think it worthy, let it stay, or else removing of it anytime is ok and welcome. I do really apologize for my deletion days ago, and thanks to Jeh, I understand it is improper to be put on here... Janagewen (talk) 13:19, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
For the reply of Elizium23, I do really object to discuss something about religions, it tends to be meaningless to this subsection. People who read this subsection in talk should not be misguided. This is only a talk, a casual talk. Janagewen (talk) 07:34, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
Posting your thoughts here was only a very minor issue. How you reacted to the response to your post is a problem. Sadly, not the only one documented there. Please take the reports seriously. Jeh (talk) 12:08, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Jeh, even though I am not very glad about your comments on that Report page. But at this moment, I have to say thank you, no offense. I've necessarily removed something on this that other pages. Please don't revert! Show my greatest respect to you first! Janagewen (talk) 17:03, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
To Jeh, you don't have to be sad anytime you make warning to me. I had already experienced blocked for 24 hours. Once again, I have no purpose to modify or remove what you wrote on Wikipedia, if, that was only the wrong operation only I've made. But I have to say this is Wikipedia.org, anytime before you make any warning to me, do please evaluate the word phrase "human right" in your own country, if available. Janagewen (talk) 08:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Janagewen (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Windows XP/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Negative24 (talk · contribs) 23:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
    Lead is too long. It should summarize the rest of the article. Consider moving paragraphs in the lead to their respective sections in the rest of the article. For example, paragraph two probably can be shortened down to just explain that it was developed originally as two projects and then merged. Paragraph three can almost entirely be moved to the reception section.
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citations to reliable sources, where necessary:
    The lead shows many dates that don't have references. It may be repetitive but these refs need to be shown. The removed features section contains no references.
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
    The article is getting to be a bit too big, especially the development sections. The sections about WinXP being in it's Neptune/Odyssey and Whistler states should be moved to separate pages (about the development to those separate projects) and then significantly shortened.
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
    Last major overhaul occurred about a month ago.
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    Main logo seems to have a disputation on WM Commons. I'm not that experienced with their policies so I don't know if that will make or break the use of that image.
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
    The development section contains no images yet talks about many of the UI changes in that time period. It would be great if images could be placed to illustrate what those specific features looked like (I'm looking for an image like what is in the Service Pack 2 section). Also, fFix the placement of the task grouping image in User interface (it breaks the flow of the text).
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:
    I'm placing this on hold for about a week (can be changed!). Glaring issues include the lead and the length of the article.
  • @Negative24: Hi. I am afraid I must vehemently contest your 6-B assessment for two reasons:
  1. Development of Windows XP occurred under strict non-disclosure conditions, thus any image for this discussion is in violation of WP:NFCC#2 and WP:NFCC#4. We have had long discussions as to why leaked screenshots are unreliable and the matter is now cut and dried.
  2. You have already given a verdict of spin-off for the development section. So, requesting image for another article is no longer within the purview of this review.
Best regards
Codename Lisa (talk) 03:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
  • @Codename Lisa: I didn't realize that the development was under a non-disclosure condition or I wouldn't have asked that. I assumed that since the development was covered under many conferences that there were a few screenshots. No matter. I also considered your second reason during review. I thought that since it hasn't already been spun-off that this would be a good place to discuss the matter. Thanks for telling me. I have already updated the page. Do you have any other concerns? Thanks, -24Talk 03:44, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes, there have been conferences and even usability tests. Conferences used very beautiful PowerPoint presentations with vivid decorative images too, but the images used there, although not in violation of NFCC#2 and NFCC#4, lack sufficient contextual significance for our purpose (NFCC#8 violation). Things have been different in 1997, in Bill Gates era. Maybe we get lucky and find something about Whistler if we tried a lot. But I brand that as FA material, not GA. And we also might get lucky and find event images. We can also use images like Bliss. In fact, unless I am much mistaken, the article used to have more images before boys at WP:NFCR came along... and deleted them. That's for now. Let's see where my research goes.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
  • 6-A: Main logo's dispute seems all but resolved now. Image on Commons is deleted on 30 October 2014. I closed the case per WP:SNOW. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 04:14, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Review after hold[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


Review is identical since no work has been done since the first review.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. Has an appropriate reference section:
    B. Citations to reliable sources, where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
    B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail: