Talk:Witch of Agnesi

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
WikiProject Mathematics (Rated C-class, Mid-priority)
WikiProject Mathematics
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mathematics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Mathematics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
Mathematics rating:
C Class
Mid Priority
 Field: Geometry (historical)

Special nature[edit]

What's so special about this curve?--Anakata 18:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

The Witch of Agnesi is functionally equivalent to the Cauchy-Lorentz Distribution, which has many uses in mathematics and physics. The one with which I am most familiar is the Lorentzian profile, or "natural broadening", of atomic emission and absorption spectral lines. I have added a link to the Cauchy Distribution page under "See Also". AmberRobot 21:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
I would say that the special nature is due to the geometric definition which was added a few days after Anakata's question. Note that the curve is not unilaterally scaleable: stretching it in (only) the horizontal or vertical direction will change the curve into a non-witch (unlike, say, an ellipse, which can be scaled arbitrarily). So only specific Cauchy-Lorentz distributions are actually witches. Cheers, Doctormatt 00:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Fermat[edit]

This page states that Fermat studied this curve in 1666, but Fermat's page states that he died in 1665. This combination seems improbable, as zombies generally prefer to eat brains rather than do mathematical research. Is there a source for this claim? Sean Patrick Santos (talk) 03:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The date should be 1630, Fermat was in his late 20's. The article has been fixed.--RDBury (talk) 05:39, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

error regarding centroid[edit]

As this curve is infinite in width and asymptotic with the x-axis (according to the illustration), the centroid of the curve should be (0,0). The centroid of the area between the curve and its asymptote is (0,a/2). Additionally, the centroid of the generating circle is the center of the circle at (0,a).

Versicra[edit]

A yet another example of internet proparating the nonsence, a modern mondegreen so to say. Even Britannica Online (as of today) writes that 'versicra' means 'witch' in Italian, which is nonsense, as easily verifiable from modern and old dictionaries. There was/is no such word.

In fact I suspect this is a modern artifact of OCR publishing. If you search google books for 'versicra' you will find some, but if you look into original images of the corresponding books, you will see it is 'versiera', and 'versicra' is just sloppy job of subsequent readers. Max Longint (talk) 17:54, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


interesting links:

Max Longint (talk) 18:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Where and in which version of the article do you see "Versicra"? I've searched back to May of last year and cannot find it.--RDBury (talk) 06:00, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
I was writing about "intertet propagating nonsense". I am glad that wikipedia was not fooled with the magic word "Britannica".
Sorry I didn't make it clear that this post was a warning not to add "versicra" to the article, despite references floating around. Max Longint (talk) 19:01, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. We have a non-OCR version of the 1911 Britannica article on the subject at WikiSource. It doesn't mention "versiera" but it does state that Agnesi invented the curve when she only wrote about it. There are a number of such factoids that have been propagated as historical truth; the internet is not a requirement though it does speed up the process a bit.--RDBury (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Centroid[edit]

I am questioning this article's value of the centroid's x-coordinate at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics#Does the Witch of Agnesi really have a well-defined centroid?. Comments are invited.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:48, 8 September 2014 (UTC)