Talk:Wolfgang von Trips

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Fatal Accident[edit]

According to this video, only 12 spectators were killed [1] ...but in the article it says that 14 were killed, anybody know for sure? --Skully Collins Review Me! Please? 10:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Michael Kettlewell, in World of Automobiles (Orbis, 1974), Vol. 20, p.2369, says 14. Trekphiler 17:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I rewrote to this:
"at the Parabolica. The Dino 156 climbed the banking, killing fourteen spectators before overturning, fatally throwing von Trips from the car."
on that basis. The Ferrari 156 page confirms 14. Trekphiler 17:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Quote from the Motorsport Memorial website: The toll of the accident is the worst of the history of the Formula 1 Championship: besides Wolfgang von Trips, eleven spectators were instantly killed (the Italian Augusto Camillo Valleise, Franca Duguet, Luigi Motta, Luigi Fassi, Laura Zorzi, Albino Albertini, Paolo Perazzone, Mario Brambilla, Giuseppina Lenti and Claudia Polognoli and the Swiss Franz Waldvogel), and many were seriously injured. The following day three of the wounded spectators - Luigi Freschi, Roberto Brambilla and Rinaldo Girod - succumbed in the Monza hospital. Another spectator, Renato Janin, passed away in the same clinic on 15 September.
11 + 3 + 1 = 15. RX-Guru (talk) 09:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Cutting corners[edit]

I deleted this:

"for the until then unpopular car racing."

as unsubstantiated, & contradictory to pre-WW2. I deleted this:

"Consequently, his team-mate Phil Hill won the title."

as irrelevant to von Trips. I deleted this:

"Instead, he helped lay the foundation for another German to become the greatest (and richest) sportsman of all times"

as debatable & extremely POV. Tho I'd agree Michael is the one of the best F1 drivers ever, on par with Senna, I never saw Fangio or Clark. Trekphiler 17:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved per WP:SNOWBALL. Readro (talk) 00:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)



Wolfgang Graf Berghe von TripsWolfgang von Trips — Per WP:COMMONNAME.—--Midgrid(talk) 21:05, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Support: No reason to use this cumbersome full name when there is no disambiguation issue with the common name. Pyrope 21:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Support. Per WP:COMMONNAME, the article should be at Wolfgang von Trips. Readro (talk) 21:55, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Support per nom: my books (Small, Steve (1994). The Guinness Complete Grand Prix Who's Who. Enfield: Guinness Publishing. ISBN 0 85112 702 9.  and Griffiths, Trevor R. (December 1997) [1992]. Grand Prix: The Complete Guide (3rd ed.). Enderby: Blitz Editions. ISBN 1 85605 391 1.  ) both say either "Wolfgang von Trips" or "von Trips". Whilst Small also has him as "Trips, Wolfgang von", and Griffiths as "von Trips, Wolfgang", neither give any other names. Poor Wolfie - he could have taken the '61 championship... --Redrose64 (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
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Moved from article[edit]

An anon editor left the following comment in the article after the LA Times quote from Jim Clark: " This is wrong. The real stoy can be read in Clark's Autobiography, pages 122 & 123". It's not much to go on, but might be worth someone checking. I don't have Clark's autobiography. 4u1e (talk) 12:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Unencyclopaedic paragraph[edit]

That paragraph about his “fate” and being “jinxed” is very unencyclopaedic in tone. The mention of his previous accidents and injuries at Monza is valid information, but it should be re-written in a factual and encyclopaedic manner.--Jcmo (talk) 15:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)