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[Hindu Law and Custom, p.145] - what book is this? will remove until clarified. 2. put the women being students of vedas in a new section titled 'education'. will include references to women sages of yore and also education of women historically and in modern india.

Add new section on the lines of 'Famous women/role models'. Kiran bedi, saine mirza, indira Gandhi, sarojini naidu, women high up in the armed forces, how they took over the freedom struggle when the men were in prisons, rani jhansi,recent winner of Magasay award etc.

Add section on affirmative action for women (AP has a 30% reservation). Maybe some stats on women in diff fields.

Add section on women self-help groups (SEWA etc)

I looked for other 'women by nationality' articles to compare presentations. Only found India and Status of women in Pakistan. The pakistan one is an opposite POV. The india article is very negative - focusses on sati, jauhar etc and doesn't reflect the real position of women in current India. I doubt I would find witchhunts or the fact that Harvard Univ did not admit girls a century ago (thinking it would a waste of resources) in an article on the US. They may be relevant but need to be in a history section.

I am looking to reverse the negative portrayal and I may be POV in that direction. I will be happy to work with anyone who has a differnt POV and get some neutrality to this article. --Pranathi 21:37, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Tried my hand at rework. In addition to above, removed section on purdah - firstly, the claims that it was practised don't hold. Second, images of goddesses with purdah may be compared to less clothed dieties - does not reflect actual position of women. Abundant content trying to prove Hindu purdah, but no reference to purdah in muslim societies, where it is actually practised today - why this bias?

Removed many references to Hindu books. Again this article should focus on women in India - the women in hinduism has been seperated to allow this. As before, comments and suggestions are invited --Pranathi 23:12, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree the POV need to be positive now that bullshit is as the situation regarding women's rights in India are getting more and more positive. But it must show the history which has not always been good. Removing purdah on the grounds that it is not now common is incorrect because it was a custom not many decades ago. I remember my mother having to cover her face from elder men in the family - so let us not deny history! Obvious things have moved on - so we do not want to dwell on these "negative" customs too much but they need to added. --Hari Singh 23:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

revert by User:DaGizza[edit]

I believe that you have acted unfairly and your action are not consistent with wikipedia rules in continuously reverting the additions of Guru Nanak's influence on the rights of women in this area - these are valid and well known facts that have been recorded in the history of the region. You are trying to maintain your narrow view-point and this action is in breach of WP:NPOV. How do you justify your stand regarding this unfair action?

Guru Nanak's contributions are well known and very relevant not only to this region but to the whole issue of women's rights worldwide. I ask you to reconsider this with an open mind and check the history and the quotations. Can you tell me why fuking you have been reverting these changes? What WP rules are you following? You say that this is preaching Sikhism – this has no relevance to the issue in hand. Just because Guru Nanak Dev was Sikh, does not mean that his contribution cannot be entered here. His talked about women rights and the other un-justices against women in the area – So that makes this very relevant.

The contributions are very important as they talk against Sati, purdah, etc and gives equal rights to women, when their rights were being abused worldwide – Are these things significant to you and the article? I do not want to engage in an edit-war and I ask you to re-evaluate your stand on this issue. I await your reply. Many thanks. --17:11, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Re-write and expansion[edit]

I've re-written and expanded the article. The diff is here. utcursch | talk 12:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC) written bu M K Sharma

fuckism in india --> dubious![edit]

The new (and still requiring a lot of work!) Sexism in India article is being covered in written by M K sharma every sort of tag for sentences i consider to be completely uncontroversial. The fact tags require simple sourcing, but the latest has me stumped:

"India suffers from various forms of sexism (dubious tag)."

An Indian user dennying that India has sexism seems bizzare, and i don't know what sources to give. 3 sources showing differrent types of sexism? Is this enough to back up the sentence? Or does anyone know of an article saying exactely the above, or something to introduce this article?

Note, I know the article is still unbalanced - i'm starting to expand it with info from this article, but i've had to spend most of my time finding cites for this "reverse discrimination" section to prevent it's deletion, so i've had no time to start more than cursory sections on treatment of women.

I hope it to be complementary to this article, showing the present-day social and legal forms of sexism (rather than the historical fact of the abuses that women have suffered, which this article tells of so well). For an issue so large, i think more coverage is greatly to be desired. And though the reverse discrimination being claimed is by comparison minor, it seems to be a real phenomenon (the complaints at least), that is so far ignored by wikipedia.

thanks in advance for any help you can give! 11:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references ![edit]

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

  • "vedam_towards_gender" :
    • {{cite book |last=Mishra |first=R. C. |title=Towards Gender Equality |url=https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no43902.htm |year=2006 |publisher=Authorspress |id=ISBN 81-7273-306-2 }}
    • {{cite book |title=Status and Position of Women: In Ancient, Medieval and Modern India |last=Pruthi |first=Raj Kumar |coauthors=Rameshwari Devi and Romila Pruthi |url=https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no21831.htm |year=2001 |publisher=Vedam books |id=ISBN 81-7594-078-6 }}

DumZiBoT (talk) 11:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Sam's World(:[edit]

(: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.41.175.7 (talk) 16:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:40, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Excellent article but...[edit]

This is an EXCELLENTLY written article... BUT... i don't think Aishwarya Rai represents Indian women! Sorry, but she simple DOES NOT! lol ... why? we need an entire article on that!

Amartya ray2001 (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Navbox removal[edit]

FYI, I removed {{Women in society}} as the thrust of the navbox is sociological where this article appears to be more geographically / anthopologically oriented. ClaretAsh 11:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

gender bias in indian laws[edit]

please add issue of pro-women bias in Indian laws.for example 1)adultery committed by women is not a crime:(src:http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_woman-can-t-be-punished-for-adultery-supreme-court_1620489); 2)misuse of dowry laws to harass in laws:(http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-08-17/india/28308729_1_dowry-law-section-498a-complaints). and several others

Rachelkarenlover (talk) 15:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. →Στc. 07:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

BLOOPER!! Who's in charge? Edit request on 5 January 2012[edit]

A line in the economy section mentions Kalpana Morparia being in control of the second largest bank in India ICICI. Kalpana Morparia is head of JP Morgan. ICICI is lead by Chanda Kochchar. Please confirm that spelling. Can be done on both company websites.

I contributed to the drive.

Keep me learning. Cheers. I'll check soon. I created an account to get that changed. I'm a dude. Hail the change!!

Bkunal33 (talk) 18:55, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --it looks like that part of the article was referenced to a 2006 article. I've added a reference from 2009 that talks about her moving to JPMorgan. --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 February 2012[edit]

{{Since alcoholism is often associated with violence against women in India,[24] many women groups launched anti-liquor campaigns in Andhra Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Haryana, Orissa, Madhya Pradesh and other states}} The name of the state Orissa has been changed to Odisha last year as the bill is passed by Honorable president of India MS Prativa Patil .Please do the changes accordingly


Maitreyee Das (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Pre-natal testing[edit]

The article says, "All medical tests that can be used to determine the sex of the child have been banned in India, due to incidents of these tests being used to get rid of unwanted female children before birth."

Surely this is incorrect. Doctors are, I think, forbidden to tell prospective parents the sex of the child which they are expecting, but not from doing pre-natal ultrasound tests.

Banning "All medical tests that can be used to determine the sex of the child," seems extremely unlikely, since the ordinary tests used to check the health and development of the child in the womb often reveal the sex of the child. I know that women in the UK are routinely asked if they want to know the sex of the child, but it is usually quite difficult for anyone looking at a good clear scan not to be aware of evidence as to whether the baby is a boy or a girl.

These tests can also reveal serious problems, such as a suspected ectopic pregnancy. It would be a major set back in the standard of mother and baby health if they were banned.

This is what makes not telling the parents so difficult - the people doing the scan often can't help knowing the sex of the child.

Jorvikian (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

edit request for adding discrimination against girl child in india[edit]

Dr deshmukhe (talk) 21:35, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Kindly add the details of the section u want to add.. Diksha41 (talk) 22:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

First woman pilot of an airline[edit]

It is Captain Durba Banerjee, and not Captain Durga Banerjee. Sushil.chander (talk) 06:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 20 August 2012[edit]

In the picture she is not the current president Rustygupta (talk) 10:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Done Thank you! FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 12:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

bronze medal winner at 2012 olympics[edit]

Mary Kom should also be a part of this text as she brought a bronze medal for India in the 2012 London Olympics. she had also suffered from the prejudice. people didn't find a successful boxer in a female. but she proved everyone wrong by winning the medal. she has inspired the whole nation. she is a mother of two and always received support from her family. — Preceding unsigned comment added by S dahiya27 (talkcontribs) 09:19, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Edits by Heyitsoil7[edit]

Recently Heyitsoil7, who was identified as a sockpuppet, made a series of additions to the article that appear to be quite decent. It was removed due to WP:DENY, but as that was an essay and not a policy/guideline, and WP:DENY's objective is to discourage vandalism which does not seem to be not the case here, I am making the exception to revert the removal. This is in no way a show of condoning sockpuppetry, but just separately recognizing the merits of the quality of the particular content which was added. Zhanzhao (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Have you checked for copyvios? Nangparbat is a serial copyright violater. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Either way I don't think it makes sense in the lede which is meant to be a summary of the key points in the article. Perhaps we could change the wishy washy However, women in India generally are still exposed to numerous social issues. to However, women in India continue to face discrimination and other social challenges and are often victims of abuse and violent crimes. The article points out most of the things in nanagparbat's content addition in detail and, if something is missing, then that's where it should be incorporated. --regentspark (comment) 14:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
That I haven't. Thanks for the reminder, Darkness Shines. I'll get to it an do some editing/paraphrasing where needed. Zhanzhao (talk) 15:55, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Rape[edit]

Have you considered having a subsection for rape under "Crimes against women"? This could contain a summary and a link to the separate page Rape in India. It seems odd only mentioning rape in a link at the bottom of the page. Alnair64 (talk) 12:24, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Agree. I added a paragraph and linked to the main article under crimes against women. For now I just cribbed the first para of the rape article, but feel free to tweak/add. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 02:57, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 January 2013[edit]

In section 8 (Notable Indian Women), under the subsection Sports, Karnam Malleswari is the first Indian woman to win an Olympic medal, not the only one. In the 2012 London Olympics, M.C. Mary Kom (boxing) and Saina Nehwal (badminton) also won bronze medals. 59.92.166.33 (talk) 17:26, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I have updated that section per your request. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:52, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 March 2013[edit]

Rapes column should be there in crime against woman and allow the world to know the actual women condition these days. A 15-year-old girl was allegedly raped by four men in a moving car 07 Mar 2013, 2:59PM IST A class XII student, returning to Delhi from a mall in Ghaziabad, was allegedly gang-raped by three men. According to Police three men out of which two have been arrested, picked up the woman in a stolen auto-rickshaw from outside Shipra Mall in Ghaziabad.07 Mar 2013 A three-year-old girl was allegedly kidnapped and raped by some unidentified people and later abandoned near a building in Mallapuram district of Kerala.07 Mar 2013 A 12-year-old young rape victim in Jhabua in Madhya Pradesh was raped for continueos three days and then barred from attending school by the school principal as he feared that she would 'spoil the school's atmosphere'. 05 Mar 2013, 10:09AM IST In yet another shameful incident in Punjab, a minor girl was first drugged and then taken to a field in Bhatinda, where she was gang-raped by three men.03 Mar 2013, 9:10AM IST Protest broke out against rape of a 7-year-old girl at a government school in Mangolpuri area of northwest Delhi. The school is run by Municipal Corporation of Delhi (MCD). Delhi police registered case after medical examination of the girl.01 Mar 2013, 5:14PM IST Another rape was reported in Bhandara. This time a 14-year-old student was raped by her teacher inside school premises.23 Feb 2013, 4:13PM IST Some unidentified person allegedly raped and murdered three minor sisters at Murwadi village in neighbouring Bhandara district, police said. The bodies of the girls, all below 11 years went missing, and were later found in a well in their native village, thereafter, a complaint in this regard was lodged by their family.20 Feb 2013, 8:13AM IST There seems to be no end to apathy, this time a shocking horror story from Bhopal where the parents of a raped and murdered 8 year old girl were housed in public toilet by police in name of providing security to them.10 Feb 2013, 8:52AM IST A 24-year-old woman was gang-raped in Punjab's Gurdaspur district after she was abducted from a bus in which she was travelling. Police have arrested 5 people in connection with the case. 12 Jan 2013, 8:00PM IST A 14-year-old girl was set ablaze by the accused after she resisted his attempt to rape her and slapped him.12 Jan 2013, 11:23AM IST tribal minor girls are gang-raped by the teacher and guard in a school hostel in Chhattisgarh. The victims are in the age group of 8-13 years. 07 Jan 2013, 11:41AM IST A 20-year-old girl from West Bengal who worked as a domestic helped has been allegedly raped, tortured and kept hostage by her employer. 11 Jan 2013, 9:50AM IST A six-year old girl was raped in Pune, Maharashtra. Police has registered a case against 'unknown men' in the case.01 Jan 2013, 4:03PM IST An eight-year-old girl was allegedly raped and brutally battered to death after being lured by a local youth in Fatehpur.01 Jan 2013, 8:54AM IST 21-year-old law student gangraped on campus15 Oct 2012, 8:44AM IST 13-year-old raped for 3 months, school expels victim14 Oct 2012, 5:12PM IST 19-year-old girl kidnapped, gangraped in Haryana10 Oct 2012, 12:08PM IST 12-year-old abducted, raped in Panipat09 Oct 2012, 10:02PM IST 28 days, 12 rapes in Haryana before 8 oct ; Hooda offers lip service08 Oct 2012, 8:54AM IST Teenage Dalit girl kills herself after gangraped in Jind07 Oct 2012, 8:53AM IST J&K: 16-year-old kills self after being gangraped by teachers27 Jul 2012, 1:10PM IST Noida: Class X student gangraped in moving car26 Feb 2012, 4:20PM IST Woman raped at gunpoint in Kolkata15 Feb 2012, 8:52PM IST Bihar: Woman beaten with hot iron rod, raped08 Sep 2011, 9:01AM IST Uttar Pradesh: 22-year-old woman gangraped04 Jul 2011, 12:02PM IST Delhi: Girl gangraped in moving car12 Dec 2010, 12:29PM IST 141.30.28.34 (talk) 23:37, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed.  — daranzt ] 06:02, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
There is already a full article on Rape in India - I suggest you go there for suggestions for improvements. I added a paragraph to this article, with a link to the full article.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 02:56, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Indian police and self defense[edit]

I read that the indian police supports self defense classes for women (see http://redbrigade-lucknow.fr/?page_id=117 ). I found no other references of this, yet the Shiv_Sena political party (now part of the BJP) once provided self defense weapons (see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/shiv-sena-india-political-party-distributes-knives-women_n_2545870.html ), so there might be some truth to it. See

also see http://www.change.org/petitions/indian-government-organize-self-defense-campaigns-for-women-across-india

Perhaps it should be mentioned the indian police (perhaps government) supports self defense classes for women? KVDP (talk) 16:42, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Interesting information, worth mentioning. OccultZone (Talk) 16:49, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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