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[edit] Consensus discussion

I am intending this discussion to build a consensus among editors who edit this page. If, a consensus cannot be reached, and another edit war breaks out, probation will be sought. If I missed a subject, add it below the other ones. --Truco 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Jeff Hardy

Jeff Hardys contract ran out on the 32st of July, it is not clear if Hardy has signed a new one or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.16.244 (talk) 04:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)



[edit] Signings/Releases

Red question mark.svg Unresolved. Consensus needed. D.M.N. (talk) 21:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know the exact wrestlers that are being debated over signing with WWE, or being released, but the bottom line is: For signings, the only accepted reliable sources are statements made exactly by that wrestler (this can be sourced with whatever source as long as the source states "Christian Cage officially stated in an interview") or an announcement made by WWE. For releases, many can be sourced with WrestleView, WON, and PW Torch because these websites have inside information with WWE and they get the news edge on releases, but these are the only accepted sources for that (and by WWE and direct statements by that person). For FCW: they must appear on FCW, WWE/FCW must acknowledge their signing or appearance, blogs by WWE employees, and statements by that wrestler.--Truco 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

1. Support As long as we have a set standard on what makes a reliable source, I'm fine with it. Vjmlhds 22:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Sources deemed reliable  Hazardous Matt  22:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

2. Oppose I hate to cause trouble here, but when it comes to developmental signings, WWE.com never does them. The only sources for them are sites like PW Torch, the newsletter, 411mania, PWInsider, Wrestleview, etc. Dahumorist (talk) 22:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, it depends where they get their information from. If it says "According to an inside reporter" then it will be okay, but if WrestleView says "According to PW Insider" (then you will have to find where the original information came from, it just cant be coming from website to website, it has to have an original source.--Truco 22:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree with that. Dahumorist (talk) 23:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I completely disagree that just by saying "inside reporter" makes your statement untrue. You never know if they're lying, spreading rumors or publishing misinformation. The official statements must be by FCW, WWE, or any other first-party sources [in this case, the Wrestler's own sites]. Raagio T/C Guest Book 01:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
When I said "inside reporter" I meant a reporter who has connections with WWE; they can't lie about that because the website could get sued for false publication of information.Truco 01:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
That is not a reason for proving they aren't lying. Raagio T/C Guest Book 02:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Eh, fine then, all developmental signings are only reliable if they appear in FCW, have been announced as a contracted superstar by FCW, or by WWE and their own personal statements.--Truco 02:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
That seems good, you can also add that if any WWE contracted talent [like JR in his blogs] would mention them, they can also be added. Raagio T/C Guest Book 02:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Added.Truco 02:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
But many of them confirm on their personal site via MySpace, which is deemed unreliable. Dahumorist (talk) 04:59, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

3. Undecided If a wrestler themselves, WWE.com or a reliable source posts the hiring/firing of any wwe employee, then that should be allowed. As for the release of developmental talent, it should be placed under discussion here, if a reliable source is not posted, but pwinsider or the other newz sites post the release. We must consider this, since WWE.com does not post the release or signings of developmental talent, and we need to keep the page accurate as possiable. As I mentioned with Unassigned talent, remove the category all together. When the wrestler debuts in FCW or WWE television, then they can be added. If a accurate source, WWE.com, or the wrestler themselves (not myspace) states they have been signed to WWE and have not debuted yet, then they can be placed in "Other personnel" with the source and "Wrestler; yet to debut full time" next to their name.--NickSparrow (talk) 18:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there is any point on posting why you're undecided.
  1. REDIRECT User:Raaggio/Signature/Current 21:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Like I said, it depends where the original source of the information comes from. If each site keeps pointing to other sites about it, then no its not reliable. The only sources that can be taken into consideration are the Wrestling Observer if Dave Meltzer reports it or PW Torch.--Truco 21:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tag-Teams/Stables

Yes check.svg Resolved. Consensus seems to have appeared. D.M.N. (talk) 21:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

A tag team is an active duo of wrestlers who tag-team regularly, this is not an example of "Glamarella." A stable is more than a duo of people, which doesn't necessarily need to consist of wrestlers. Members should be added as they are officially stated via WWE.--Truco 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

1. Support Fine by me. Vjmlhds 22:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

2. Support Dahumorist (talk) 22:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

3. Support  Hazardous Matt ' 22:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

4. Support (was an Oppose), Glamarella's a team, it's not that hard! Kalajan€₣ 14:19, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Take the definition of tag-team "An duo of wrestlers that wrestle matches together regularly" (meaning, at least every 2 weeks). A valet/wrestler combination is not a tag team, meaning that Glamarella is not a tag-team due to this definition.--Truco 21:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
But they're a part time team. Kalajan€₣ 21:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
No they are not because the have not tag-teamed regularly, so it cannot be considered a team. It can be considered a valet/wrestler duo, but not a tag team. Like Maria and Marella were not a tag-team.--Truco 22:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
But that's a different case, for they never tagged together (I think). Kalajan€₣ 22:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually I believe they did have a handful of tag matches. Nothing notable though. I believe to remember at least one.  Hazardous Matt  22:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Yah I never saw them fight together. Kalajan€₣ 22:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, the Maria/Marella pairing is irrelevent to this. "Glamarella" is not a tag team.  Hazardous Matt  22:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Dude, give it a rest, seriously. Marella and Beth have only tagged, as of late, every month probably. That is not a tag team, its a valet/wrestler combination. A tag team must tag team regularly like Miz and Morrison. Just because they have a tag team name does not mean they are a tag team. If in the future they tag team a lot, they can be named a tag team, but as of late, they are not.--Truco 22:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
It's not even a tag team name. It's a parody of the couple's name combinations like "Bennifer" or "Brangelina".  Hazardous Matt  22:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I like this one: KalaKelly. :·) Okay I'll drop it. Kalajan€₣ 22:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

5. Support A team of a male/female should not be listed as a tag team unless they go after the tag team titles, or win them. Then they should be listed. A stable is 2 or more active members (managers/valets can count towards this).--NickSparrow (talk) 18:33, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

6. Support' Benton Tigers ' 21:25, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Inactivity

Yes check.svg Resolved. Consensus seems to have appeared. D.M.N. (talk) 21:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Inactivity of wrestlers falls under the criteria that they have not appeared on television over 3 weeks, a general average time. In addition, if they are out for other reasons they have stated or WWE has stated, that is qualified as sources.--Truco 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

1. Tentatively Support I think 30 days is the best time frame, but in principle I agree. Vjmlhds 22:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

2. Support I agree with the above, should be 30 days. Dahumorist (talk) 22:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

3. Support 30 days. Sometimes Creative just forgets someone's on the payroll.  Hazardous Matt  22:58, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

4.- Support One month is 30 days right? Kalajan€₣ 14:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

5. Support - One month. If inactive, I suggest putting: Inactive; last seen on WWE television on ........ D.M.N. (talk) 17:05, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

6. Tentatively Support I think if a superstar is not on television or wrestling at live events, then they should be considered inactive. If the wrestler fails to be seen on television within 3 weeks, but wrestled in a dark match or on the road at live events. Then it should be noted by their name.--NickSparrow (talk) 18:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Which wrestler is on what brand?

Yes check.svg Resolved. Consensus seems to have appeared. D.M.N. (talk) 21:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

A wrestler belongs to the brand which WWE.com has them on, if they appear on other tv shows more regularly, like the Miz and Morrison on Raw, it is because WWE tapes ECW and Raw together and due to the "talent exchange" which is equivalent to the disbandment of the brand extension in a way.--Truco 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

1. Support Amen. Vjmlhds 22:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

2. Support Unless of course, WWE does a brand change on television and is slacks on switching them on the roster pages. Dahumorist (talk) 22:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

3. Support  Hazardous Matt  22:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

4. Strong Support Whatever WWE says goes. Kalajan€₣ 14:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

5. Support Whichever brand WWE.com has them listed on, it should be like that here. They can appear on all the brands due to the talent exchange agreement.--NickSparrow (talk) 18:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] All because of "Unassigned Talent"

Here's an easy solution to all of our problems.

Get rid of the "unassigned talent" table.

All of these rookies are not worth the trouble of having this page locked.

I propose from now on unless there's a sourced article saying these rookies have appeared in FCW, then they are not to be included on the page, period.

Since there is too much controversy over what makes a reliable source, then let's make life easy on ourselves and don't include rookies who may or may not have signed contracts until we see them in a WWE or FCW ring or TV program.

This is getting out of hand and a hammer needs to be dropped or else this going to continue.

No TV or source showing they wrestled in the WWE system, no mention in the article, period and amen.

Vjmlhds 22:39, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, a list of reliable sources has been available for some time. It's just that not everyone's favorite website is listed as a reliable or trustworthy source. Though, if there is no source saying they've wrestled in the WWE system, then they probably haven't.  Hazardous Matt  22:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I disagree vehemently with Vj. The problem that occurred with the page was that someone deleted the ones that were unsourced. Of course, previous to the page overhaul and redesign, most of those people DID have sources but they disappeared. The only reason an "edit war" occurred was because that SK dude insisted that my sources were unreliable. There is no reason these wrestlers should be left off the page because of one guy's opinion on what sites are reliable. WP:PW lists reliable sources and we should follow that. That's what it's there for! Dahumorist (talk) 23:00, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

This is the definition of employee:

An employee contributes labor and expertise to an endeavour. Employees perform the discrete activity of economic production. Of the three factors of production, employees usually provide the labour.

If the talent is unassigned and not competing, that means they have yet to begin fulfilling the labor they must do in their contracts. So if the person is not working, then they still aren't officially employed, just making checks for doing nothing. Raagio T/C Guest Book 02:51, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

That's ridiculous. If Mae Young can be listed as Occasional Appearances (and she should be, despite sitting at home), then signed talent are employees too. Dahumorist (talk) 05:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Whatever you decide to do with unassigned talent is fine by me, just as long as there's a set criteria.

Plus somebody needs to fix the page ASAP.

Somebody put Ricky Ortiz and Teddy Long on Smackdown so now both the SD and ECW tables are screwed up, and Victoria needs to be removed from Smackdown as she will retire after her match tonight. (WWE.com is reporting this, so it's not a spoiler).

Vjmlhds 13:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

As for Unassigned talent. I think it should be removed all together. It causes to much trouble for the page to always be protected. Lets leave the FCW section as is and update it as wrestlers appear/leave. Low-Ki can be added to the roster as "Kawal".
As for Tomko, why not place him under "Other personnel" due to being the only unassigned talent with a accurate source. We can put "Wrestler, yet to debut full time" next to his name. Same with Josie and Garrison. Everyone else removed until they debut on wwe television or debut in FCW.--NickSparrow (talk) 18:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Low-Ki II

Just wanted to further note some stuff regarding Low-Ki. He worked another FCW taping so he might as well be placed under their roster. He also is going by the name "Kawal" so at the very least that name change can be made. Hot Stuff International (talk) 08:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also Carson Oakley changed his ringname to Alex Riley according to the FCW site. Dahumorist (talk) 18:38, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Christian Cage

This Is not a reliable source but it is the only one that I found that can say anything about his return to WWE. [1] Benton Tigers  21:39, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Not an RS. Period. ₰imonKSK 21:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Is PW a reliable source? [2] Benton Tigers  18:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I found the official site she had the interview with confirming his return to WWE: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/66103/EXCLUSIVE-Deep-impact --Mrrko (talk) 01:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

It says he "jumped ship" not that he went to WWE. That just means he's not with TNA anymore. Wait for something concrete.  Hazardous Matt  01:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Thats because she is saying that Cage was one of the first big names to jump from WWE to TNA, and will be the first to go back.--Mrrko (talk) 14:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait I'm confused. This page shows Christian Cage on the WWE roster as non signed talent. Wouldnt that mean that he is back. If it does not mean that then why is it shown.Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 04:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't this been discussed... say... 9999999999999 TIMES! He's not to be added until he is seen on WWE, or has confirmed himself or WWE that he's returning. Kalajan€·₣ 14:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Kalajan, you are right. Finally, you get it. SimonKSK 01:36, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Well sorry. But if its not confirmed wiki admin usually will not take the time to add people who have not yet debuted on the show. Also wiki admin has told me that the Wrestler stating that he him self has signed a contract is not a reliable source since many wrestlers lie about the current status in a company. So there goes your deal with him saying that he said he is back.Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 01:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

he's on WWE ECW (DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!)--Wwe.fana (talk) 02:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The future endeavours club

Hardcore Holly is now out the door (WWE.com)

Vjmlhds 00:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't see anything for Hardcore Holly, but I did see this: "ANDRE THE GIANT'S BOOK RELEASED". How sad. They're firing literature.  Hazardous Matt  00:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Ha good one Matt Benton Tigers  01:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Yah he is. See the WWE.com news[3]. Kalajan€·₣ 14:49, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Victoria (Lisa Marie Varon) retired.

(Note to an admin) On wwe.com Victoria announced she has retired from wrestling in the WWE. So she should be removed from the roster. Govvy (talk) 15:02, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

There are many updates needed to be made, but that will not happen until a consensus is made above.--Truco 15:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Holly and Victoria

{{editprotected}} Please remove the "Hardcore Holly" row from the "Male wrestlers" section under the "Raw" main header. Holly was released from the company, see this. Also, "Victoria" announced her retirement, and is no longer an employee. Please remove her from the "Female wrestlers" section under the "SmackDown" main header, see her new Alumni page and the results from her retirement episode of SmackDown. Thank you, iMatthew // talk // 15:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Done. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Beer! iMatthew // talk // 22:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE

Chris Jericho needs to be removed because he was fired on Monday Night Raw last week, and Victoria needs to be removed from the Divas because she retired after last night's Friday Night Smackdown, and Jeff Hardy I believe it is needs to be put as out of action for now due to a pyrotechnics accident on last night's friday night smackdown. --Chrismaster1 (talk) 18:45, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Well you must learn a thing or two from Wikipedia for the professional wrestling. Chris Jericho will be never fired. That was in kayfabe and probably he will return like Undertaker did. --Pavlen (talk) 18:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I now know that he didnt get fired since I saw RAW. But I do have a feeling that Randy Orton may be next since he punted Vince McMahon in the head. That's only a prediction though. --Chrismaster1 (talk) 21:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Thats something that hasn't happened and that probably never will. Kalajan€·₣ 21:48, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
What hasnt happened? Orton getting fired or Orton punting McMahon in the head? If its Orton punting McMahon in the head, it did happen. But until either No Way Out or Wrestlemania, its gonna be hell for Orton. --Chrismaster1 (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Jerico got fired and got his job back ages ago--Wwe.fana (talk) 02:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The name of the stable on the ECW Brand consisting of William Regal, Ezekiel Jackson, and Vladimir Kozlov is The Tormentors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.122.62.216 (talk) 02:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why still protected?

I'm a bit baffled here. Obviously I missed the whole 'Unassigned talent' war that led to the protection but looking at the article the names in question were removed and aside from removing Holly and Victoria, the page seems to be in order. So can't the page be unprotected with the idea that all future 'unassigned talent' won't be added to the page if their signing is in doubt, until they pop up in FCW or wherever they're going to be placed? If we can figure out the Active/Inactive issues, this seems a lot easier to fix doesn't it? In fact I think it already has been so what's the deal? Hot Stuff International (talk) 19:57, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Kalajan€₣ 20:43, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Since I am unable to make edits at this time, I would just like to point out (so that someone can fix it) that "accessdate" is spelled "accesdate" at least once in this article. Please update with proper spelling so that the date will display properly. Thanks so much! -Whataworld06 (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svgY Done Nikki♥311 05:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAQ page

Based on some of the consensus above, I've created an FAQ page, which is linked from the top. I urge all editors to read it. I've tagged some of the discussions as resolved, but one (the sources one) is unresloved as of now. D.M.N. (talk) 21:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yah thats actually all good. Good job. Kalajan€₣ 21:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FCW

[4] It has loads of non-fcw wrestlers on it. Whats with that? Do they wrestle both places? Kalajan€₣ 21:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes some do but I think its to show that Jack Swagger is part of FCW alumini or however you spell that and that hes now a big star on ECW or something like that Adster95 10:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Theodore Long/Ricky Ortiz

Can someone please place Theodore Long and Ricky Ortiz into their proper categories. They belong in the ECW roster, and both are listed in the Smackdown roster. Thanks--NickSparrow (talk) 03:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Just now noticed Vickie Guerrero is no longer listed on the page anywhere. Her photo remains, but she was removed from the smackdown roster on this page. If someone could fix this. It would be greatly appreciated.--NickSparrow (talk) 03:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dos cara Jr.

[5] Kalajan found a link. Looks official? If you all agree, then I will add a edit request for it to be puut in the article. Simon \\ KSKYes we can! 19:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Simon... I don't know what to tell you but... the link is a blog, and it's just about a guy talking about Dos Caras Jr. refusing WWE's contract. Sorry for the bad news :/ Raaggio 04:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lookout for these talents

I'm just reposting the sources I found for the questionably signed talents. I think it's best to leave this section here on the talk page until reliable sources are found.

Here are the wrestlers in question. If/When I have found a reliable source, we should add them:

Tavita Fifita - http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/96505/More-Various-News:-More-Jericho-Publicity,-Dancing-With-the-Stars,-New-Sapolsky-Blog,-Another-Second-Generation-Talent-Signed,-More.htm

Chris Raaber - http://rajah.com/base/node/15095

WP:RS? Simon \\ KSK Yes we can! 18:12, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I guess I'll have to reiterate a couple things for people who don't seem to understand. These are NOT reliable sources, they are just tentative sources. These people should not be added to the page unless reasonable sources are found. I am simply posting these, so that we can be on the look-out for more reliable sources for these talents.
Additionally, FCW show results have made mention that there is a wrestler using the name Michael Leonard who is not yet accounted for on the roster. It is possible he is one of these people above, or perhaps he is Brian Jossie or Gavin Garrison. Be on the lookout for this information too. Dahumorist (talk) 18:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Johnny Riggs has been appearing in FCW as Dylan Klein. His MySpace profile pic was taken at an FCW show (he's being managed by Wesley Holiday). I'm not sure what more confirmation is needed, which is why I posted here first rather than edit the actual article. --James Duggan 05:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I was about to make the edit to the article. His appearance in FCW is confirmation, I'd say. Dahumorist (talk) 07:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Byron Wilcott wrestled at tonight's FCW taping. [6] --James Duggan 04:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

He's now been added. Also, be on the lookout for Ian Richardson's new ring name, same for PJ Black. Dahumorist (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Here are the results from the latest FCW TV taping. Here is a list of the new names in FCW: Tank Mulligan, Brian Jossie, Paul Lloyd, Tristan Delta, and Mike Hutter. We know Brian Jossie is signed, and Mike Hutter is one of the names above that was unconfirmed, though tonight confirms it. The other names I've never heard before. Some of them could be new names for existing wrestlers as Ian Richardson and PJ Black are now going under new names. I'll try and get confirmation on who's who. --James Duggan 06:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, ok, I just checked the FCW website on a whim and the roster is completely updated. Tank Mulligan is Taylor Rotunda (his grandfather is Blackjack Mulligan), and Tristan Delta is Ian Richardson. They also have a profile for Paul Lloyd, but I don't recognize the picture, though I'm guessing PJ Black. They also have profiles of Jason Elliott (Jason Riggs), Matt Walsh, Windham Rotunda, Wes Brisco and Brett DiBiase. I'm updating our list now. --James Duggan 06:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks James. I'm glad I'm not the only one on top of the whole developmental scene here. Dahumorist (talk) 15:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Also, I google imaged Phil Shatter (Chad Lail), and he is definately Kip Christianson. Dahumorist (talk) 15:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's a Google search for "David Otunga WWE". Are any of these reliable enough to place Otunga on the roster? Also, here's a FloridaIndies.com thread saying that Otunga has appeared in an FCW ring. --James Duggan 22:10, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I love how there was a week-long lock on this page after a "massive edit war" over the previously listed talents, and now they ALL turned up in FCW. Dahumorist (talk) 00:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

According to the leaked Raw Script from March 2nd, Fifita is under contract, but not Raaber. --James Duggan 01:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting an editor be blocked

I would like to request editor 76.206.63.198 be blocked.

He keeps moving wrestlers to Smackdown just for the hell of it.

This is repeated vandalism, and it needs to stop.

Thank You.

Vjmlhds 21:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Those requests aren't made here. I will place a warning or barring prior warnings recommend blocking. Cheers, JakeDHS07 22:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
UPDATE Guilty party has been blocked for 1 week. Cheers, JakeDHS07 22:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Swagger and Henry

Are they a team? They probably are because if not why would Henry attack Hardy if he's currently feuding with Finlay? Yes I know... confirmation blablabla - Kalajan€·₣ 16:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Do they team on a regular basis? No, therefore they are not a team. D.M.N. (talk) 16:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Well yes, for they teamed last tuesday; being their debut. Kalajan€·₣ 18:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Debut of what? Teaming for one time? It's probably a temporary feud for the RR. SimonKSK 18:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Yah I know nothing's been confirmed; just keep an eye open. Kalajan€·₣ 19:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so why is it that every freakin' time someone teams up, you ignore the rules and ask if they are a team anyways? --Kaizer13 (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering how long you were going to take. If you can read, you'll see that I dropped it!  ←Kalajan→  21:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Shane McMahon

I want to make my case for Shane McMahon being on the active list so there's no misunderstandings.

In the current storyline, Shane's not here to be GM or authority figure, he's here specifically to kick Randy Orton's @$$ for kicking Vince in the head.

This equates to Jeff Jarrett's feud with Kurt Angle in TNA, where JJ stepped down from the front office so he could concentrate on dealing with Angle.

Since this current feud will be a focal point on Raw for the time being (with a PPV match no doubt in the works), leave Shane-O up on the active list till it dies down.

Thank You.

Vjmlhds 05:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Any opposes?  ←Kalajan→  14:10, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Predicting that there will be a PPV match and the fact that this is a major storyline is WP:CRYSTAL. SimonKSK 21:16, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Add him in other onair talent.  ←Kalajan→  21:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Finlay & Hornswoggle

Why aren't they on the ECW tag team list any more? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpengo88 (talk • contribs) 00:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Because they don't wrestle together, a tag team is an active duo of wrestlers who perform in the ring in a wrestling match consecutively, which Finaly and Hornswoggle do not.--TRUCO 00:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I suppose, but finlay is managed by hornswoggle, so maybe the "tag teams" section should be changed to "tag teams and management teams". User:Mrpengo88

Well I agree with that, but they do also team up quite regularly.*shrugs* Badit (talk) 15:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be changed to just teams--Wwe.fana (talk) 02:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kizarny

He only wrestled one match and this says his profile page was removed [7] Pills4  22:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Simply go to WWE.Com and check their Superstars section. If Kizarny's profile has been removed, then it should be notated next to his name that he's currently wrestling in FCW he's worked the last few set of tapings. If it hasn't, he stays listed under the Smackdown brand. Hot Stuff International (talk) 00:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

But he wrestled a houseshow this weekend. Dosen't that mean we should say that he wrestles in smackdown house shows?-- Badit Gold  15:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

His SmackDown profile is back up [8]. --James Duggan 00:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Was he Released--Dcheagle (talk) 05:38, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Santino and Beth

Beth is listed as Santino's valet. When was the last time Santino wrestled? I don't think since November when he lost his IC belt to Regal. I think it's more appropriate to say he is her valet. Tony2Times (talk) 04:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Each one is valet of the other. I think. Badit (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Valet means female manager--Wwe.fana (talk) 21:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Not according the several dictionaries I have access to. HAZardousMATTtoxic 16:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Yet U wont show me any Reference--Wwe.fana (talk) 03:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Droz

Is he still with the company in some fashion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Fan (talk • contribs) 00:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Who is Droz? RedRooster96 12:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Droz is a former wrestler who became a Quadriplegic after a botched powerbomb by D'Lo Brown. He has no use of his legs. He is still employed by the company and writes wwe.com articles as well as ppv predictions. Cheers, JakeDHS07 16:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gail Kim

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/smackdown/2009/february15-21/9406452

That's from WWE.Com which verifies Gail has indeed re-signed with the company so she can be placed under unassigned talent until she makes her return on TV. Hot Stuff International (talk) 04:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Not really, it doesn't say she is signed. They brung out Flair last week, but he isn't signed. We can't say she is signed without her actually doing something besides a promo. The guy who had the Christopher Daniels type gimmick hasn't even shown up yet and all that stuff just stopped after one promo.--WillC 04:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Dude calm the hell down first off.I doubt WWE would bother showing a training video of someone not even on their pay roll. Not to mention you're a bit behind since Hade Vansen was released last month after they scrapped his gimmick and angle after the single vignette aired.. and he was clearly under contract anyway. But whatever.. sorry I even mentioned it.. didn't know it'd piss ya off so badly. Hot Stuff International (talk) 06:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

That video being on WWE.com is more than enough as far as I'm concerned. I SUPPORT adding her using that video as a source. Anyone else? Dahumorist (talk) 06:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Clam down, I'm not even remotely upset. Sorry, if it sounds like I am upset. I just think we should wait since the same could happen with Kim. You never know, she may ask for her release. It is better to wait until she appears on tv, as per the previous agreement to wait until people appear on tv to add them.--WillC 06:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes I forgot about that rule. I get what you're saying about waiting since plans could change and she might not even make it onto TV but I'd say at the moment she's under contract and at least should be put in unassigned talent. Look at Tomko.. he worked one Dark Match and hasn't been heard from since but he's still listed. Hot Stuff International (talk) 06:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

If they've already filmed a promo for Gail Kim she's obviously been signed to a contract, she should be listed in the Smackdown brand under female wrestlers as I believe the promo had the Smackdown symbol on it. BlackManta 11:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FCW Name Changes

Here's the latest round of name changes made in FCW:

-Bryan Jossie is now Abraham Washington -Mike Hutter is now Derrick Bateman -Byron Willcott is now Lennox McEnroe -Paul Lloyd is now Jarred Black

Hot Stuff International (talk) 06:30, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Paul Lloyd/Jarred Black is now Justin Angel. Tristan Delta/Ian Richardson is now Troy Jackman. Dahumorist (talk) 07:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Inactivity Question

On his own page the last match listed for DJ Gabriel is January 13. Does anyone know if he's appeared on any house shows or on ECW (I sometimes miss) as of late? If not he should be noted as currently inactive/competing in FCW. Hot Stuff International (talk) 21:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

--DJ (w/ Alicia in tow) has been wrestling dark matches prior to the tapings for about the last month, so although he hasn't been on TV, he's still active.

Vjmlhds 23:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] March 2nd Raw Script Leaked

As many of you may have heard, the first draft of the March 2nd Raw script has been leaked on the internet. On the second last page, it lists the various roster members. Under FCW, it lists several interesting names. One name is Tevita Fifita, Haku's son who was rumored to have been signed. Another name is Jose Torres, which I am assuming is the real name of Black Pain/Sweet Papi Sanchez. The other name is Joe Nobles, and I'm not sure who he is, but Vic Adams is not listed, so my guess is they are one in the same. --James Duggan 01:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

That seems like a confirmation of Tevita Fifita's signing. Are there any objections to adding him? As for Joe Nobles, I don't know. I guess it makes most sense that its Vic Adams and that Andrew Vain was released as nobody has heard from him in months. Dahumorist (talk) 07:08, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
  • No objections here, it all makes sense. I'm going to go ahead and remove Andrew Vain unless anyone has any objections there. The Jay Experience 03:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ongoing revamping

It appears that this article is undergoing a major revision, with tables listing each performer's ring name, real name, and other relevant information. While I'm sure this has been discussed and I have no real problem with it, my problem lies in the current organization of the article itself. As I type this, the entire "RAW" section is blank, apparently awaiting the revised format. I think that someone ought to keep the article in its former form until the revisions are completely ready (i.e., all tables with each performer's ring name/real name/etc. have been completed), and the tables should be worked on in the sandbox (or some other place. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 13:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)]] (P.S. — I think at the very least, a boilerplate should be added at the top of the page alerting readers about the page undergoing a major revamping, and not removed until the task is complete).

[edit] Stephanie McMahon

I'll admit she did show up on Raw this week BUT why is her picture next to the other on air talen for Raw?--Wwe.fana (talk) 11:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


Why is Vickie Guerrero the GM of Raw? I do not like her as GM and why did she choose Raw over Smackdown? I would prefer Stephanie McMahon. After all, Stephanie is a better authority figure than Vickie! HabsMTL (talk) 02:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC) You don't talk about your opinion here--Wwe.fana (talk) 03:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Wouldn't it be good if below the images of the Champions/Authority Figures, it said what title they had, or what show there the general manager of. Just a thought. Adam Penale (talk) 10:38, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] McMahons

Leave the McMahons on the Raw page.

Vince and Shane came back from their injuries to go after the Legacy.

The McMahons vs The Legacy has been an ongoing feud since the start of the year, when Randy Orton slapped and punted Vince, then beat Shane down, and finally attacked Stephanie.

Everybody's back now, and the "war" is on now as evidenced by the end of Raw.

So leave Vince and Shane on Raw because they are part of a feud, which is arguably the main feud right now in WWE.

Vjmlhds 18:47, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Updating citations

Just a reminder that when there are roster moves such as from the draft, the sources within articles need to have their links updated, not just the external links section. I just updated them all, but I won't feel like doing it every time.

[edit] Sicodelico Jr.and other possible signings

A number of sites have reported that WWE has signed Sicodelico Jr. This is because he posted pictures on his personal MySpace of him signing his papers with WWE. He will be added to the roster once he makes an appearance for FCW. In the meantime, here are the sources so far: http://rajah.com/base/node/15757 and http://www.myspace.com/sicodelicojr

Also, I'm going to take this opportunity to re-post a source for another supposed signing that occurred a little while ago for Chris "Bambikiller" Raaber. http://rajah.com/base/node/15095 Dahumorist (talk) 07:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

PWinsider and 411mania posted news that Lance Hoyt announced his signing with the WWE. http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/103098/Various-News:-Former-TNA-Star-Signs-With-WWE,-James-Laurinaitis-Has-No-Wrestling-Plans.htm Once again, when/if he appears with FCW or WWE itself, he can then be added. Dahumorist (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
A diva by the name of Carly debuted with FCW. She may be under official contract. No further info is available just yet. Here is a source http://rajah.com/base/node/15883 21:08, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
An update on this signing. I believe she is the recently signed "Britney Spears look-alike" Rachel Carr. http://www.sescoops.com/wwe/Britney_Spears_Body_Double_Training_At_WWE_Developmental.shtml Dahumorist (talk) 20:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Gerweck.net and 411mania.com are reporting the signing of a diva from National Wrestling Superstars named Miss April (real name April Jeanette). Perhaps this is Carly mentioned above, although it's probably an entirely different woman. Here are the sources http://www.gerweck.net/news/1241540323.shtml and http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/103764/WWE-News:-New-WWE-Show-in-France,-Batista-Interview,-New-Diva-Signed,-Eric-Escobar-on-the-Road,-More.htm Dahumorist (talk) 17:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Another reported signing is Fred Sampson. http://rajah.com/base/node/15975 Dahumorist (talk) 07:53, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Yet another signing is Serena Deeb. http://rajah.com/base/node/16122 Dahumorist (talk) 16:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Some reports about the resigning of Chris Masters have started popping up. Here's one. http://rajah.com/base/node/16244 Dahumorist (talk) 22:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Gerweck.net and Wrestling Observer Newsletter report the signing of a bodybuilder named Aaron Reed. http://www.gerweck.net/news/1245966618.shtml Dahumorist (talk) 15:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC) Here's another report that a guy named Ray Leppan was signed. Also, it gave the name Aaron Rodriquez as Sicoldelico's real name. Unrelated, I saw the signing of referee Shane Sewell somewhere as well. http://www.gerweck.net/news/1246313443.shtml Dahumorist (talk) 05:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cena on Smackdown

Next to Edge's name there's a note that he appears on Raw due to his feud with John Cena. I think Cena should have a similar note, statinh that he appears on Smackdown due to his feud with Edge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JWC126 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tiffany

I recall her being ecw general manager, not interim. is it really? 3pointswish (talk) 06:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Nop it was announced by Teddy Long "And New ECW interim General Manager" Adster95 09:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

fair enough 3pointswish (talk) 02:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Santino/Santina

Should we list Santina and Santino seperatley? MC Steel (talk) 05:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

This is employees not characters = Nope --Senkris (talk) 22:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tag Teams

Ok,I am sick and tired of everyone saying that Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas are The World's Greatest Tag Team name now.Its NOT true,they have not been called that one single time since they have reformed so STOP with putting it up that they are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CentaurRULES (talk • contribs) 17:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

That is not true, as R-Truth stated "So The World's Greatest Tag Team are back together" BUT it has not been offically stated by WWE. MC Steel (talk) 00:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

No, most of WWE refers to them as the team formally known as the World's Greatest Tag Team and are announced as Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Haas. — Moe ε 23:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Taker's knee surgery?

Is it true that the Undertaker is having knee surgery? Danny Boy 420 (talk) 21:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Improve the page, don't waste time please--Senkris (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Senkris could have phrased that better, but is basically right. This is not a messageboard, it's meant to discuss ways to improve the article. TJ Spyke 02:27, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Section missing

Shouldn't there be a section for employees that are currently unassigned - e.g. Vickie Guerrero?--Senkris (talk) 22:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Vickie Guerrero left WWE. — Moe ε 23:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
Yah well some other guy that has signed a contract but isn't doing anything (Dos Caras Jr.)--Senkris (talk) 13:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Section suggestion

I think there should be a section which shows the superstars released over the past month, or so. So that people can know if their favorite superstars were fired or were just taking time off. I know that they can just look for their favorite superstar's name on the list, but it would be better and quicker to just compile them in one section.\:.:bibboorton:.:/ (talk) 04:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

We already have a page for alumni. --James Duggan 17:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
This is also not a fan site. This article isn't for fans to see how their favorite superstars are doing. – (iMatthew • talk) at 17:25, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Candace Michelle/Sim Snuka

They're names need to be added to the Alumni section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Fan (talk • contribs) 11:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Probably are already--Senkris (talk) 13:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

They still haven't been added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Info Fan (talk • contribs) 16:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FCW Tag Team Champion references

I have been looking at wrestling website and I couldn't find anything about Trent Beretta and Caylen Croft winning the FCW Tag Team Champion. If they are then I need to see some references. --Wrestling-fantic (talk) 20:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

They didn't. There is just some ip going around changing things saying they did.--WillC 01:58, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm the one that changed it. My references are below. --James Duggan 00:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Then I think we should change it, because I even look at the tag team page and it says that Johnny Curtis and Tyler Reks are still the champion. --Wrestling-fantic (talk) 04:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's your reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TKiz1t4rgA&feature=channel_page. Not sure when it was taped, but it aired May 31, 2009. --James Duggan 00:19, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's another one: http://flrankings.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=13113. --James Duggan 00:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

All right thank you --Wrestling-fantic (talk) 01:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FCW

http://flrankings.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=13156

Apparently, it turns out Kip Christianson isn't Phill Shatter (real name Chad Lail). Shatter is now working with TNA. If he's not Shatter, then who the heck is this guy? I'll update the roster to reflect that.

Also, a wrestler under the gimmick of Count Franklin Furter (someone has a cheesy sense of humor in FCW) debuted on a recent TV episode of FCW. Looking at the photo FCW has of Kip Christianson, they might be the same, but I'm not sure. FCW's website updated the talent roster, but no Furter, and Christianson is still there. --James Duggan 22:55, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Forums are not reliable sources.--WillC 01:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

No, but it's not the original source either. It has been reported on several of the "news" sites that Phill Shatter is debuting in TNA as a member of Foley's new security team. Besides, there wasn't really official confirmation on our part that Kip Christianson was in fact Phill Shatter.[9]
Define "news site". Are these the same sites that say, "it is rumored to..."? Yeah that would be a no.--WillC 04:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unassigned talent

Checking history of the page there has been an unassigned talent section - which should be added as the page is called List of World Wrestling Entertainment employees - not List of World Wrestling Entertainment active employees -- Celtic Cross  23:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I repeat that-- Celtic Cross  15:47, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree there should be you are total right 82.21.192.131 (talk) 13:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Once there is someone under contract that is unassigned then we can re-add that section. Until then, it's pointless as it will be empty. --James Duggan 22:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edge torn achilies

Was edge injury while fighting Jeff Hadry in July kayfabe?It says he was inactive due to injury on the article, but on 7/10/09 he speared Rey Mysterio and he and Chris Jericho were assaulting Mysterio which makes my think it wasn't legit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 02:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Because Smackdown is filmed (if i can say that) some time before it airs; which brought us to a crossflow-- Celtic Cross  15:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Idea

I have no idea where to put this so i'll just post here. I was thinking that a page with all pro wrestling championships on would be a good idea. Sorry for posting it here but i really have no idea where to post. We have a page dedecated to pro wrestling promotions, move & matchs why not one including all the wrestling championships. If there is already 1 could someone put the link her please, thank you very much 82.21.192.131 (talk) 13:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

could you please look at this reather then ignore it 82.21.192.131 (talk) 19:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Would be near impossible to make a comprohensive, fully sourced listed of all pro wrestling championships. It would be borderline list cruft. There are probably around 1000 championships in existence to begin with. Today in the mainsteam wrestling community, you have 5 from TNA, 9 from WWE, 2 from ROH, 2 from PWG, 5 or 6 from CZW, etc. This would also be better suited to be posted at WT:PW.--WillC 22:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Eugene and Chris Masters

they both signed with wwe source wrestlezone also festus has not competed in 30 days same for jamie noble —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.71.72.229 (talk) 13:43, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Send us the Eugene and Chris Masters source and I'll add'em at Unassigned employees. Thanks for the Festus and Noble though.-- Celtic Cross  16:30, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Eugene (Nick Dinsmore) reportedly signed on as a Trainer for FCW, so once it can be confirmed, the category he would be under is "Producers and trainers", not "Unassigned employees". --James Duggan 22:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh, right-- Celtic Cross  14:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

As well as training the FCW development talent, its been noted that Eugene is set to make a return in SmackDown soon. I think he's wrestled house shows and is set to continue a rivalry wtih Ricky Ortiz. Therefore he should be placed on the SmackDown roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.138.152 (talk) 15:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ezekiel Jackson

Can someone remove "Inactive; Has not competed in over 30 days" from his notes, he has appeared on the last 4 (I think) episodes of ECW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.103.238 (talk) 23:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fred Sampson / Fred Sanford / and Fred Rosser all the same guy

Fred Sampson / Fred Sanford / and Fred Rosser are all the same guy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.49.199 (talk) 02:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Miz

Right now The Miz isn't listed as a superstar on any brand. I feel his name should be removed until he is listed again, even if it might be storyline based. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.138.164 (talk) 03:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

He's still listed on the official roster pages. Therefore he should still be put on the Raw roster, with a sidenote that he has been 'banished' from Raw. It's happened before with someone a few years ago and they were still listed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.138.152 (talk) 15:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

As of right now he isn't listed on the official roster pages. Click the link listed next to his name and he is not there. It just says page not found. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John546 (talk • contribs) 02:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok forget about removing his name now that he won the contract match against Eugene. His name still isn't listed on the official roster but should be listed soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John546 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Rock

What proof is there that he is returning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.147.74 (talk) 19:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed it. The editor who added it has added that several times to Dewayne Johnson. It looks to be vandalism. Apparition11 Complaints/Mistakes 21:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.240.147.208 (talk) 00:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] D-Generation X

Now that D-Generation X is back together, I feel there names should be added to the Stables and Tag Teams list on the Raw Brand.

Be bold and add them.--WillC 06:23, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I'm new here and it won't let me edit this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John546 (talk • contribs)

Please remember to sign your posts by typing ~~~~. TJ Spyke 20:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Slam Master J and Cryme Tyme

J appeared in one edition of Word Up with Cryme Tyme and Eve in which they locked him away from them, the quartet haven't been seen together since, so why is SMJ listed as a member of Cryme Tyme? The gimmicks are similiar, but surely we're going to have to see more than one appearance for this to become 'official'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.220.158 (talk) 22:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about? He has appeared with Cryme Tyme every single week since that. Have you not been watching SmackDown? TJ Spyke 22:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I have an I did not see Cryme Tyme with him during his debut or during the intergender tag team matches either. What I'm saying is that Cryme Tyme are a tag team not a stable, Slam Master J is simply an associate not a stablemate. Cryme Tyme is just JTG & Shad with Eve acting as their valet. Slam Master J doesn't come into it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.220.158 (talk) 02:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

You said they had not appeared together since then, I pointed out you were wrong. They have appeared together in the Word Up segment ever week. I am not saying I think he should be listed with them, I am just saying that they have appeared together every week. TJ Spyke 02:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

J is their "cronie", wwe superstar results 10/9/09--Celtic + Cross talk 15:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Superstar & Diva

This page redirects from "WWE Superstar" with no explanation as to why. Therefore I added a short note in the intro, explaining that WWE uses the terms 'superstar' and 'diva'; not sure if it needs a source, but if it does, pretty much any page on WWE.com should suffice. I understand that WWE.com articles are not always considered reliable sources for facts, but surely they are considered reliable sources on how WWE refers to its talent. Sordyne (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MVP and Mark Henry

These guys are going to vs. Jericho and The Big Show @ Breaking Point for the Unified Tag Titles. Should they be added to the tag team list? Or should we wait until they have had a few more matches?John546 (talk) 04:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Wait and see what happens after Breaking Point; whether they win and become official, or lose but continue tagging. This although, might not occur and they might not become a tag team.--Celtic and Cross talk 17:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok someone just added them as a tag team to the list. I am unable to edit this page currently so if anyone could take the names down until we see what happens, it would be appreciated. John546 (talk) 19:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Okee dokeey. Done.--Celtic + Cross talk 20:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Breaking Point has come and gone and they are still tagging together and it seems like they are going to get another title shot. Is it time for them to be added? --86.165.51.206 (talk) 06:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Legasy

There starting to refer to The trio listed as "Legasy" as Randy Orton and Legasy I'm just wondering should Orton be listed in Legasy?--Wwe.fana (talk) 07:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

He should be listed in Legacy he is apart of the group, it is a stable.--WillC 08:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
WWE Announcers are refering him to them as Randy Orton and Legasy--Wwe.fana (talk) 08:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
I'M Gonna remove him--Wwe.fana (talk) 08:16, 4 September 2009
OK Tell Me which is better me removing Orton or adding a team of Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiasie--Wwe.fana (talk) 08:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Neither. Orton is still credited as being apart of Legacy. They are a stable, simple as that. They should be listed as such as well.--WillC 08:44, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes I have to agree with Will here, Randy Orton is still a member of The Legacy, its just that hes a star in the singles competition. This is similar to when Triple H was part of Evolution.John546 (talk) 19:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC) Yes but It wasn't "Triple H and Evolution" It was "Evolution". But in the case of theese 3 its refered to as "Randy Orton ands Legasy"--Wwe.fana (talk) 22:18, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Dude. It's Legacy, and leave it how it is.--Celtic + Cross talk 18:32, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I used to agree, but I'm watching SD! and the name bar during the entrance said Randy Orton & Legacy with the three together. It's kinda official if it was on TV isn't it? Freebird (talk) 01:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
The Name should remain Legacy.--Dcheagle (talk) 01:47, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Although I agree, I think you should give a reason that prooves you're right; I've seen you do this quite a lot. You don't say "The name should remain legacy due to...", but "The name should reamin legacy". Another example I've seen you write is "If you were right you could add it but you're not so you can't"--The Celtic Cross (talk) 10:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Then why should it be Legacy? Like I said I used to agree, but the name bar thing says otherwise. Freebird (talk) 13:01, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

In case u don't know me wich u probably don't I haven't given up on a problem I have seen. Unless there is a solution, and as far as I Know Orton is not apart of LEGACY.--Wwe.fana (talk) 21:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

This has gone on long enoughWwe.fana (talk) 11:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Courtney

Courtney Taylor no longer needs to be listed as a valet of Alex Riley, the recent FCW saw him dump her from the Cabinet, deeming her dead weight, whilst her future in FCW is unknown, they'll probably focus on her in-ring work whilst continuing her backstage interviewing on ECW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.106.224 (talk) 20:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] JeriShow

Chris Jericho & Big Show Tag-Team is called JeriShow —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.16.253 (talk) 07:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

That is a fan name, not the actual name of the tag team.--WillC 07:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
exactly--Celtic + Cross talk 20:03, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Commentators and MVP have called it that but I think that if there is going to be a team name we have to wait for them to call themself that.--Wwe.fana (talk) 21:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I just saw on wwe.com on the mainpage slideshow for hell in the cell it says Jeri-show. Freebird (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


It is NOT an offical name,they are NOT called that to the ring by the ring announcer,it is ONLY a nickname so STOP saying it is the offical name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.83.133 (talk) 04:10, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Curt Hawkins

Deapite the fact he competes mainly within FCW and is yet to appear on SmackDown, he should be listed as a member of the SD roster still with a sidenote saying he trains in FCW. If he's still got a profile on the roster, they still consider him a member of it. Besides, he's not even listed as an official star at FCW. You can't count him out until he's officially demoted, traded or released.

Yes I completely agree with you. Until he is officially demoted or his name is removed from the SmackDown roster, I feel he should be listed on SmackDown.John546 (talk) 06:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Why has he been removed again? He's still not been removed from the official roster lists (which is an official source) so why take him off? He can do both FCW and SD at once, even without appearing on one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.26.253 (talk) 22:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vladimir Kozlov and Ezekiel Jackson

Someone has edited and said that these guys are called the Ruthless Roundtable. I have not heard this name mentioned anywhere, so I'm going to take it down until we hear officialy if that is there name.John546 (talk) 06:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

The ECW commentators call them this --86.165.51.206 (talk) 05:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I have never heard the ECW commentators call them that. Do you have an official source? John546 (talk) 23:16, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I heard it too, last week. Freebird (talk) 05:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

The name of the group consisting of Vladimir Kozlov, Ezekiel Jackson, and William Regal is The Tormentors.Eddiemack3 (talk) 04:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Proove that.--Celtic + Cross talk 16:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

On the most recent episode of ECW, Matt STriker referred to the trio as the Roundtable 24.168.27.158 (talk) 23:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

A Matt Striker called Big Daddy V and Mark Henry "The Most Dominant Team in Sports entertainment History" But that wasn't there name--Wwe.fana (talk) 21:54, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok yet again someone edited and said there called the Ruthless Roundtable. Its just a nickname, NOT there official tag name so please stop putting it up.John546 (talk) 21:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


Actually your wrong,it IS their team name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.83.133 (talk) 04:12, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

As I said before do you have a source?John546 (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


There is no sourse needed,your are not the boss here ok.Matt Striker calls them The Ruthless Roundtable so its the team name,and don't say he doesn't pick the names,because he said David Hart Smith and Tyso Kidd where The Hart Trilogy,and the second he said it,boom,it was up here and posted at the team name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.154.55.23 (talk) 21:46, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hornswoggle

Is it still necessary to have the kayfabe son of Finlay note by his name? That storyline seems to be finished and they are on two different brands and never interact with each other anymore. --Crazy4metallica (talk) 03:02, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

its listed as such till wwe says some thing other wise just cause there on different brands dose not mean its stopped--Dcheagle (talk) 22:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Then on Kane and Underdater, shouldn't it say kayfabe brother of each other? --Crazy4metallica (talk) 08:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to put it in that there brothers then be Bold and add it but we can not remove the tag that Hornswoggle is Finliys Keyfabe son till WWE says other wise.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

He listed as an occational Wrestler but since wrestling all he does now should we move him to the wrestlers sectionWwe.fana (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Freebird (talk) 16:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New Announcer

Tapings have shown that Lauren Meyhew was present on this Friday's upcoming SmackDown tapings, filling the announcers role. Now WWE doesn't usually bring in completely new talent unless they're there for a long run because they have a big thing on continuity, therefore it should probably be added that she is Justin Roberts' replacement as announcr on SD, whilst Justin himself is moved to Raw as Lilian's replacement.

do you have a source.--Dcheagle (talk) 23:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Only from the spoilers of this weeks results from Lords of Pain, but I guess we'll just have to wait it on until then to see if its right.

if thats all you have it will have to wait till it airs.--Dcheagle (talk) 01:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Well it seems I was wrong, but I'm pretty sure she's all signed up. I might've been wrong on the exact tapings she comes on, or just the whole situation in general. We'll have to wait it out, but don't be surprised if you see Lauren Meyhew's name come up at some point.

Yes we will have to wait WWE hasn't made any announcements as to Lauren Mayhew's employment.--Dcheagle (talk) 04:05, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Roberts' profile has been moved to the Raw roster page, which pretty much confirms my theory.

No it hasnt Roberts Profile is still on the Smackdown roster page. I don't know were you had seen that it was on Raw but its not.--Dcheagle (talk) 00:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I got all confused. It seems the whole situation has taken another turn. Mayhew was scheduled and did appear for this weeks tapings of SD. When I said she'd appear, it was basically saying she'd be at this weeks tapings, I just assumed it'd be last weeks one (if that makes any sense) anyway she was there but taken off after the dark match and replaced with Roberts. It was reported on Lords of Pain that she wasnt on time and messed up, she was taken off and then made notes the rest of the night. So once again nothing can be confirmed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.106.99 (talk) 22:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

ok it still cant be put up but thank you for the feedback and my i an incurage you to sign up for account here so that it hides your ip.--Dcheagle (talk) 23:20, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm okay for now I just wanted to make a point. However, it seems from this past week, Justin Roberts was present on Raw, whilst Tony CHimel covered SD and Lauren Mayhew did ECW, though she was never credited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.107.219 (talk) 22:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Mysterio

Should it be noted he is returning at Hell in a Cell. WWE said he's Batista's tag partner. Freebird (talk) 04:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Definately not.--Celtic + Cross talk 16:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
And why not? Freebird (talk) 12:22, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Shawn Michaels/Michael Hickenbottom

On real name he is listed as Michael Hickenbottom, but in my opinion, he himself calls himself Shawn Michaels, and that is also the name of his article. Opinions?--Celtic + Cross talk 16:38, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

True but in the end of the day his real name is STILL Michael Hickenbottom. Unless he gets it legally changed I would keep it as it is. This is just my opinion though.John546 (talk) 23:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

As His Legal Name is Michael Hickenbottom and his stage name is Shawn Michaels it shouldn't be change if thats what your asking cause you really didnt state what you wanted to do.--Dcheagle (talk) 00:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Well I would've thought that a normal person could've figured that out. Hickenbotom - Michaels. If in your opinion we should keep Hickenbottom then we will.--Celtic + Cross talk 15:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Is that what you wanted to do cause when you first asked you didn't say that. As for my opinion its not just my opinion but the standard of how this goes most of the employees have both there ring name and there real name listed.--Dcheagle (talk) 15:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah ok. Well that was the question.--Celtic + Cross talk 15:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Duggan

Where is Jim Duggan? He isn't in RAW roster & I don't hear that he was fired. --83.38.169.25 (talk) 20:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, Duggan was fired 3 october. --83.38.169.25 (talk) 14:59, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Justin Roberts on all 3 brands

I watched the entire week of WWE and Justin Roberts did all the Ring Announcing. Should Tony Chimel be listed as inactive because I know I havn't seen him in more than a month--Wwe.fana (talk) 21:58, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Tony was on last nights Smackdown. As for Jim Duggan I have no idea.--Dcheagle (talk) 00:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok that problems solved but I don't think Justin should be listed twiceWwe.fana (talk) 11:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Where is he listed twice--Dcheagle (talk) 11:39, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Wait are you talking about how he's listed as being on both raw and smackdown if so that was done because there has been no official word from wwe and all the sources that we have point to him still working for smackdown but there have been editors that believe that he is working for raw so as a way to meet in the middle he is listed as being on raw and smackdown till we get word from wwe as to were he will work.--Dcheagle (talk) 11:50, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I've just said this above, Justin ROberts is now on Raw he is listed there on the roster (he actually is this time) and he's been announcing there for Raw and Raw's segment of Superstars for the past fortnight, Chimel has been moved to SmackDown and newcomer Lauren Mayhew has been doing the same for ECW these past two weeks. I don't see how any more proof is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.107.219 (talk) 13:59, 15 October 2009 (UTC) Fixed--Dcheagle (talk) 21:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tag Team Edit War

Ok there seems to be a lot of disagreement over the names of the tag teams in the WWE. Can we please come to a consensus on things and end the edit war now.John546 (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

if people continue to put unsorced inforation on this issue i will revert it and warn users. tag teams names will stay the way they are till you have a SOURCE THAT STATES THE NAME OF THE TAG TEAM. Then and only then should it be changed.--Dcheagle (talk) 03:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Jeria-show

unless the point of this is to keep false info on the page thenn big show and jericho should be called jerio-show. Big show refered to them as this at least twice on raw and with everything else this is called relerbal. So would someone please change the name so the artica is correct and if you don't that means you can't admit your wrong like a selelct group of wikipedia users.82.21.192.131 (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

It is more a nick name than a tag team. They've yet to be booked as Jerishow. All their matches the graphic says Chris Jericho and The Big Show, not Jerishow.--WillC 22:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Exactly, so until we see this please leave it as Chris Jericho and The Big Show.John546 (talk) 04:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

But in the ECW Title is as not go world anywhere in it's name nor been called the ECW World TITle by introduces. So if this don't count then that shouldn't cause to me it looks like you just make the rules as you go on. If you keep on this was wikipedia views will go down as they already are82.21.192.131 (talk) 17:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes but WWE it self calls the Ecw Title a World Title so that stays. But as Chris Jericho and The Big Show have not been listed in a Match as "Jerishow" then we dont list that as the name of the team. If they do ever get listed as that then we will make the changes till then just sit tight and wait and see.--Dcheagle (talk) 18:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Everyone i have asked as said the same as me that that is there name if you are to stubgben you are makeing wikipedia a wrong place and soon others will find other places to find stuff on as i have started to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.192.131 (talk) 16:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Speak English and spell properly.--WillC 17:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I believe there should be one pic next to every sectionWwe.fana (talk) 07:50, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

May i ask why.--Dcheagle (talk) 08:39, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Good PointWwe.fana (talk) 09:42, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edit War.

It seems that a number of users are in an edit war over what the tag team of Chris Jericho and The Big Show and the tag team of William Regal, Vladimir Kozlov, and Ezekiel Jackson should be called. From what i can tell in page history the Users

Seem to be warring over the names. I think its time that this problem be resolved with out having to take this to administrator. So both users post your concerns here and lets talk this out and come to some kind of meeting point on this issue.--Dcheagle (talk) 21:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Chris Jericho and Big Show have been referred to and referred to themselves as Jerishow on Raw several weeks in a row now. I don't think there's any disputing that one. As far as Regal's crew, I don't think they've actually called THEMSELVES anything, but Striker calls them Ruthless Roundtable. Since they haven't called themselves that though, it's kind of iffy. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 23:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I agriee with you on the Jerishow issue but the problem at hand is the fact that the two editers above are change what the two tag teams are called many times a day.--Dcheagle (talk) 23:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
I get that. I was just giving my input to maybe help resolve the issue. If you end up taking it to Admins, I thought maybe we should have some kind of consensus on what SHOULD be there that they can see. Wwehurricane1 (talk) 00:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I dont think it will go all the way to the admins but if it does we should be able to have a consensus before.--Dcheagle (talk) 00:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
Ok although I disagree, I'm fine with JeriShow being the name of that team. I can not say the same about "The Ruthless Roundtable" though. I have yet to hear this as their OFFICIAL name. John546 (talk) 01:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
They have been called JeriShow by not only them selves but by other wrestlers so i say we put that up as the offical name and as for The Ruthless Roundtable I also have yet to hear them called that.
Sounds good to me. So are all the issues fixed as of right now? John546 (talk) 22:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dudebusters

Curt Hawkins and Trent Baretta have been mentioning Curt as a member of the Dudebusters in their tweets. Can anyone help me find a reliable source to confirm? 98.214.80.128 (talk) 06:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] NOT the WCW Joe Gomez in FCW

The Joe Gomez in FCW, ring name Jose Ediel, is not the Joe Gomez from WCW. All though both men share the real name of Joe Gomez, one is older, and the other is younger(from WXW). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.49.199 (talk) 20:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

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