Talk:Wynonna Judd

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Spelling[edit]

Is this the corrct spelling of Wynona? Rmhermen 14:12, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

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IPA[edit]

Somebody tell me if I did the IPA pronunciation right. Please feel free to correct it if it's wrong. TenPoundHammer 15:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. JPG-GR (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Wynonna JuddWynonna — I would like to move this page back to Wynonna per naming conventions, as she is almost always referred to by her singular name. (This would be comparable to, say, Sylvia (singer) instead of Sylvia Kirby, or Marcel (singer) instead of Marcel Chagnon.) However, I can't move over the redirect since the redirect has a page history. Does anyone else think this page should be moved back to Wynonna? —Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 17:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Weak oppose. See below. --Quuxplusone (talk) 21:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Oppose Wynonna Judd, 1/2 of The Judds. 70.55.85.225 (talk) 05:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • Proof that Wynonna is her most common name, and not Wynonna Judd:
These are not proof of common name -- only that she uses "Wynonna" to market her recordings. Her official web site displays the page title as "Wynonna Judd - Official Site". On her autobiography, Coming Home to Myself, she is credited as "Wynonna Judd". And a brief comparison of ghits for "Wynonna Judd" -wikipedia (622,000) vs. Wynonna -wikipedia (1,380,000) shows that while the latter has a bit more than double the number of hits, that number includes all the pages of the former -- I suspect you'd be hard-pressed to find very many pages from reputable sources that refer to her, the person, solely as "Wynonna". And while citing all the album covers from billboard.com, the billboard.com biography is title Wynonna Judd. I've never heard of either Sylvia or Marcel that you mentioned, and they don't appear to be particularly well-known in general. A more apt comparison might be Madonna (entertainer), who is known almost exclusively as simply "Madonna". Even on the children's books she has authored, she is credited as simply "Madonna". Even the relatively stodgy NYT refers to her as simply "Madonna" [1] but not so with Wynonna [2] (at least not consistently). olderwiser 19:44, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Even if the news sources refer to her interchangably as Wynonna or Wynonna Judd, I would think that the presence of just "Wynonna" on her albums and on the charts would be pretty concrete proof that she refers to herself by first name alone. Regardless of the fact that her website's title bar says "Wynonna Judd official website", everything else on the site refers to her as just Wynonna -- most other artists have their first name more than once on their own websites, I'm pretty sure. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirps) 20:23, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I don't think anyone could say that "Wynonna" is not the marketing name for her recordings. That's not the same as demonstrating that she is commonly known as simply "Wynonna". Aside from the title of the site, there are in fact other references to her full name on the site. For a telling example, on the Fast Facts page, in response to the question What is your full name?, the answer is Wynonna Ellen Judd Roach. And the Q & A page reproduces a report from the AP, "Five Questions With Wynonna Judd". Before we can conclude she is most commonly known as simply "Wynonna", I think we'd need to have evidence of widespread usage from third party sources. olderwiser 21:13, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not a country fan, but I've always heard her referred to as "Wynonna Judd". So has Google. :) You're right that her albums use just "Wynonna", but news outlets seem pretty consistently to use "Wynonna Judd" (possibly because it reminds people that she's one of the Judds). Her own Web site uses just "Wynnona" on the splash banner, but the title tag reads "Wynonna Judd - Official Site".   The situation is not the same as with "Madonna" — does anyone even know Madonna's last name off the top of their head? I might compare "Wynonna" to "Britney" — you know which singer I mean when I use just her first name, but that doesn't mean that these last names should be removed from Wikipedia articles. --Quuxplusone (talk) 21:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Major edits[edit]

On Apr 6 09, article was sourced and correctly referenced. Article was also copy-edited for cohesion, and overly-promotional or redundant language was removed. Citation alerts were removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wynonnastff (talkcontribs) 02:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Article Issues[edit]

"Wynonna met Arch Kelley III in 1993, and their son Elijah Judd was born on December 23, 1994, in Nashville by C-section. In response to feedback from conservative fans, she married Kelley on January 21, 1996, when she was four months pregnant with their second child [2]. Their daughter Grace Pauline was born June 21, 1996. Kelley was an observer rather than a participant in his wife's fame and felt out of place in her world. He settled into the role of househusband on her 500-acre farm outside of Nashville. She divorced in 1998." How do we know their marriage was in response to feedback from conservative fans...and how on earth do we know "Kelley was an observer rather than a participant in his wife's fame and felt out of place in her world." Even if there are sources to verify that, this hardly sounds encyclopedic and at the very least it should say, "Wynonna told ___ magazine that Kelley felt out of place in the world..."71.80.129.16 (talk) 22:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

There are several templates/tags that are accumulating on this article. This talk section discusses moving these under Article Issues (as per policy: Template_messages/Cleanup, and resolving these issues as soon as possible.

According to Wikipedia policy Biographies of Living Persons, "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons—whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I am working to find sources for as much information on the article as possible. Any unsourced information will be removed completely in a few days, as "zero information is preferred to misleading or false information". At this time, I will also remove the refimprove tag, if is has not already consolidated. Additionally, I am working to expand the sections tagged for expansion.

Please attempt to fix, correct, or improve the issues of this article to the best of your ability, as the tags not also extraordinarily ugly, but also give non-editors a general sense of unreliability of the article.

Wynonnastff (talk) 05:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

EastOfGingerTrees (talk) 15:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Added sources for most chart positions and album certifications. Removed unsourced statements. Expanded lead section. Removed templates. Biography section still needs expansion. If you feel the need to add new template tags, consider actually finding references or expanding the article. This article has been tagged for more than a year. :)

EastOfGingerTrees (talk) 21:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Marin County[edit]

I know the Judds spent some time in Marin County - Wynonna attended Drake High in the late 70s and was known as Christine googuse (talk) 17:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)