Talk:Xu (surname)

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Does this really make sense having 2 totally different surnames combined simply because in one dialect (Mandarin) they have almost the same pinyin? In ictu oculi (talk) 10:08, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: not moved Armbrust The Homunculus 09:11, 19 November 2013 (UTC)


Xu (surname)Xu (surnames) – Or alternatively List of surnames spelled Xu – This article currently bundles together 2 totally unrelated family names, 許 Xǔ (Mandarin) Khó (Hokkien) Heoi (Cantonese) Kóu (Teochew) of Xuchang (No.20 in the 100 Names), and 徐 Xú (Mandarin) Chhî (Hokkien) Tshêu (Teochew) of Yanshi (No.150 in the 100 Names), personally I'd prefer a split, redirecting Xu (surname) to the main dab at Xu, nevertheless that would require more discussion, so in the interim at least the title should reflect (plural) that it is about two unrelated surnames not a single surname. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:29, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Oppose per WP:UE. If they have the same romanization, they're effectively the same name in English. A split to and or something would be fine. --BDD (talk) 17:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
How are wikt:homonyms the same? I agree a split to and would however be a bigger improvement than the restricted scope of the actual RM proposal. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:19, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose proposed move, but support the split to and . Steel1943 (talk) 05:16, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose move. Since this is English Wikipedia, the focus should be explaining to English speakers how a Xu name might have originated. There are probably people with Xu ancestors in English speaking countries who have no idea which it was originally, and would just like to know what possible origins the name could have. But I would support redirecting the "surnames" version here. - WPGA2345 - 05:27, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
What does "this is the English Wikipedia" have to do with whether these are two surnames or one? This is a surname used in China not about Chinese overseas (who wouldn't be Xu anyway in most cases) and the idea that the article is for Xu overseas who won't know their surname so we should misname the article as if it was one surname when the article immediately contradicts the current title in the first line makes no sense whatsoever. This is the point of the RM. The title fails WP:AT for Precision and Recognisability. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There's no reason that various origins of the ENGLISH-language surname can't be discussed in the same article. olderwiser 16:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I understand where the nom is coming from, but with the same spelling, the different Xus should be addressed on one page. If we have enough information on the various Xus to justify separate pages, that's fine, but this dab/set index page ought to remain where it is. Dohn joe (talk) 18:43, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
As previous, no one supports all Springfields being discussed on one page. So someone please explain what then is the difference between a surname homonym and a city homonym? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:10, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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