Talk:Yellow Peril

Title

Anyone else think this should be moved to "Yellow Peril"? It seems like the right idea...elvenscout742 13:24, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly, actually. -Silence 22:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

• I don't generally watch this page, so I apologize if I'm stepping on anyone's toes. I just wondered if there was a citation for the attribution to Kaiser Wilhelm? I think it needs one.Cnilep 15:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Added this part about racism towards the Japanese

"and later to the Japanese during the mid 20th century due to Japanese millitary expansion. "

This was prevalent in WW2 era war films such as "Battle for China." The Japanese were refered to as the "yellow peril."

Indeed, the fact that the United States fought wars against Japan, North Korea (DPRK), and the China (the PRC's army fought in the Korean War) within a short time period and the effect of these wars on popular culture (films, radio featuring Asians as enemies) probably deserves more emphasis than it gets in this article. 98.223.227.120 (talk) 08:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Weasel words

"Individuals with racial bias in the Western United States emphasized the "yellow peril" as much as their counterparts in the Southern United States emphasized adverse stereotypes of African-Americans." Could this sentence be any worse?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.170.11 (talk • contribs) 03:17, 10 March 2006.

Gompers

Can someone source that Gompers quote? I'd like to use it at Sinophobia (where you're all invited to pitch in ;). Marskell 18:20, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Green Peril?

Considering that Oriental styled villains were given green skin in animated shows from the 80s to present,could "Green Peril" be used as an analogue?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by R.G. (talk • contribs) 15:46, 8 June 2006.

Yellow (People)

Wikipedia has a page on Black (People), White (People), yet not one on Yellow (People). Perhaps the phrase "Yellow (people)" should be included so the international affects of raciscm can be better recognized.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aminatam (talk • contribs) 09:53, 18 June 2006.

Might be because black and white found use in mainstream language while "yellow" continues to be a marginally racist term? -- Миборовский 21:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I've met people from many countries and the word "Asian" is not so prefered because Asia is such a huge continent and people from different sub-region could look very different. Usually people from south and west Asia call themselves "Brown" and people from east, southeast and central Asia call themselves "yellow" (also with American aborigines). So I think "Brown" and "Yellow" could be used without a racist innuendo.Derekjoe (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

For the most part in my experience, people tend to use the term Oriental. Asian when in use in Europe tends to pertain to the Indian sub-continent. Except in a label for the Middle-East, it seems North America uses Asian as the term for the whole of Asia.

Nemogbr 20:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)--Nemogbr 20:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemogbr (talk • contribs)

Merge Sinophobia here

I'm 45 years of age. I used to see the term "yellow peril" regularly. And "yellow hordes" of course. The first time I've ever seen the term "sinophobia" is right now. Why consolidate on some neologism?

• Sinophobia and yellow peril are two different concepts. Sinophobia is about dislike of Chinese by any national entity. Yellow peril is about dislike of East Asians (not just Chinese) by North American/European entities. Merging does not make sense at all here. ColourBurst 21:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

China

Continuing on the Chinese strand, does anyone think that Yellow Peril has revived (not under that term, of course) in the attitudes held by Americans about the Chinese? I've read about unease in the USA over China's rising economy, and it seems like a revival of this mindset. Brutannica 05:59, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Basically, the western world has been taken care of their global supremacy prudently. So all emerging powers will be seen as threats and enemies. There're already tons of evidence of the China demonization by western media in recent years, that could be included in this article as a new edition of sinophobia.Derekjoe (talk) 07:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sino-Japanese War & Russo-Japanese War

There needs to be some reference here to the Sino-Japanese and Russo-Japanese Wars. Most historians agree that these two events engendered and exacerbated popular and political notions of the "Yellow Peril." I'll do it myself if I get the time, but if anybody is so inclined in the meantime...Lufclufc (talk) 19:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure about the Sino-Japanese war, since both are representatives of the Yellow Peril, but the Russians during the Russian-Japanese did employ some anti-Asian rhetoric. For instance, the song about the cruiser Varyag, by far the most notable cultural artefact in the Russian culture connected with the Russo-Japanese war (see the Russian article), contains the following lines: "We shall die for the Motherland in the open sea, where the yellow devils lurk." Interestingly, the lines were removed from the song during World War I, when the Japanese were allied to Russia. --Humanophage (talk) 13:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

A bit inaccurate

This article seems to be written from a very PC/Trotskyite notion of racism. The concept of the "yellow peril" was not necessarily based on what the typical indoctrinated college student thinks of as "racism". If one reads Jack London for instance, it was more based on the very real observation that 1) there are lots of chinamen who are smart and capable and 2) they live in extreme poverty and thus will spread out throughout the world.

Compared to the more base kind of racism demonstrated by non-white groups towards white people, the concept of the yellow peril was simply the realization that conflict between whites and yellows was inevitable. Today, there are 50% more Han Chinese than all white people worldwide combined. It would seem that London et al were no fools. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.66.8.167 (talk) 15:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)