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Nricardo, is Cross County a neighborhood in Yonkers? I always figured that to be part of the Dunwoodie community.
- I guess it's a personal call. I don't really see Dunwoodie crossing the Thruway, but I could be wrong. As you put in your edits to the article, people in Yonkers don.t have a strong neighborhood identity. Nelson Ricardo 02:20, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)
Dunwoodie Baptist Church is on Yonkers Ave east of the Thruway, that's what made me think of it. Also, that area is very Italian just like the areas west of the Thruway/Central Ave. In terms of neighborhood identity, it seems Yonkers takes after the Bronx, preferring street names to neighborhood names - like "Gun Hill Road" instead of "Norwood" or "Williamsbridge" or "South Broadway" rather than "Ludlow Park". In Queens it seems to be the exact opposite, where people will say they are from Flushing more often than they say they are from Queens. Kind of interesting.
There are some neighborhoods in Yonkers that definitely exist and are in common usage, like Crestwood near where I live. However I think Greystone and Glenwood are more train stations than neighborhoods, would you agree? One person I knew from the "Glenwood" area identified as living by Lake Avenue.
- Sounds about right. I was born and raised on Willow Street (it's just two blocks long), and I have no idea what the name of the neighborhood is. I think many Yonkersans (Yonkerites?) are the same way. Nelson Ricardo 16:52, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)
It took me a while to realize this, but McLean Avenue is just McLean Avenue and Bronx River Road is just Bronx River Road. The City of Yonkers should start a campaign to instill neighborhood names into its residents, but putting up signs or something. Probably wouldn't work that well, but it would probably only distinguish residents from tourists. By the street neighborhood system Cross County would be a neighborhood.
Actually I think they already did put together a neighborhood map of Yonkers with 38 neighborhoods (does it really need that many?) However I don't think anyone really identifies with Seminary Heights.
- I added a neighborhood map of Yonkers. Tell me if you agree with it. I color coded the neighborhoods by region of Yonkers (NE, NW, SE, SW). Feedback from residents would be great...just tell me if you think my designations are wrong. I know I can't be 100% correct. Yes, I know the map is a little crude, I just made it on Paint today, it will be improving and streets will eventually be labelled.
I made some minor changes to the "History" section. "Jonkheer" was a nickname, not an official title. It was never spelled "Yonker," and much of the in-between etymology is apocryphal. There never was a family of "Phillipsberg;" the writer is thinking of the Manor of Philipsburgh which was the official name of Philipse's estate. The un-Anglicized version of Philipse's name has not been clearly established (Edward Hagaman Hall uses "Flipsen," but I believe "Felypsen" is more common). Once Philipse had arrived in the New World, the name was quite consitently spelled with one "l" and an "e" at the end. At any rate, those two paragraphs had some quirky sentence structure and syntax that needed cleaning up. Dyfsunctional 14:39, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
I also clarified the fact that it was Frederick Philipse III who was the Loyalist; Philipse I was born about 100 years too early! Dyfsunctional 14:43, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- I'm from Yonkers too and I've never heard people say I'm from such and such neighborhood. Everyone usually refers to the name of the street where they reside or hang around with their friends. Being that Yonkers is a pretty large city, in my opinion there is no need to start worrying about the name of the neighborhoods. I don't think that it will make any difference.
I don't know about the statistics but Yonkers is just as bad as any other borough. I wish that it was a borough instead of Staten Island.
When people hear that it's in Westchester County they usually think that it's suburbia, until they come to the southern part and see exactly what it's like.
This sounds like a suburban inferiority complex to me. I think it would be pretty lame for me to try to compare my hometown of Eastchester to East New York or compare Bronxville to Brownsville. I don't know why Yonkers considers itself an exception. Yonkers does have some impoverished areas, but that doesn't make it a "borough", simply by virtue of lying outside NY city limits. Also, there are rich areas INSIDE city limits, so your logic makes no sense. Nobody ever sat down and said, "Lets gather up all the dirty, poor ghettoes and make them part of the city, and put all the rich suburban areas outside the city, and adjust the city line as demographics change." Wizard1022 03:27, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- The whole neighborhoods thing for Yonkers is pretty pointless considering how little currency most of the names actually have. Thus, people in Yonkers do rely on street names for identifying a specific location, not "So-and-So Heights" or "So-and-So Park." Neighborhoods technically exist e/verywhere, but what varies is the extent to which they have names that are commonly used. Aside from Crestwood, there really are "no neighborhoods" in Yonkers. Wizard1022 03:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- I completely disagree with all of this. Yonkers has community names that date back hundreds of years. Although some names are no longer used by the general population today, they still do apply. We should be sticking to real names with historical and official backing even if colloquial usage dictates otherwise. For example, "Ludlow Park" is definitely not called "South Broadway", as the area of Ludlow Park does not even extend that far east. The community of Ludlow Park stretches from the Hudson River to the west side of Riverdale Avenue, as is covered by the L.P. Homeowners Association. Also, to respond to an above comment, I don't think that 28 community names are "too many", it's just the result of a very rich local history. People who are not aware of community names or use street names instead (as mentioned by another user above) are simply uninformed. Dale316 (talk) 01:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- from Wiki: "Northwest Yonkers is a collection of widely varying neighborhoods, spanning from the Hudson River to around the New York State Thruway/I-87 and from Ashburton Avenue north to the Hastings-on-Hudson border." Being raised in this area of Yonkers, I can agree too this (with some knowledge). If Wiki's description of the location of Northwest Yonkers is true (and I do believe it is) then the Hudson River Museum and Andrus Planetarium are CLEARLY part of Northwest Yonkers, not the Southwest. In Wikipedia, the description of Northwest and Southwest Yonkers each include the Hudson River Museum. It can only be in one area, not both. Clearly the Hudson River Museum is located in Northwest Yonkers (along with the planetarium). Can someone please change the Southwest description in Wiki, it is not "also home to the Hudson River Museum with it's Andrus Planetarium." Must have been some real estate agent trying to raise the value of Southwest Yonkers' properties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 14:05, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I grew up in Northwest Yonkers near two block section of Palisade Ave between Chase and Roberts Ave and corrected "Uriks" to properly read "Urich's". Additionally this two block area was more widely known as "the north end" as opposed to just "the end". Local youths however sometimes do shorten it to "the end".
I altered the reference to Yonkers being bordered on the north by the "Towns" of Hastings-on-Hudson and Greenburgh. Hastings-on-Hudson is, of course, a Village within the Town of Greenburgh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 00:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Didn't somebody once have a List of neighborhoods in Yonkers, New York article once? We should be able to add articles like Winchester Villages, Armour Villa, Yonkers, and such to it. -------User:DanTD (talk) 16:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Yonkers can be difficult to describe
Well it is a city. Under the laws of New York State it is considered a municipality. It has a population of roughly 200,000 and is 21 square miles in area.
- Sure; see Core-periphery; every place is in the middle of one or more regions and at the edges of other regions. Yonkers is in the commuting zone of Manhattan, it's on the left bank of the Hudson, it's in the northern temperate zone, it has forests in the middle (I often visit that part), it fits some meanings but not all connotations of Inner suburb and so forth. Its internal geographic structure is also vague, at least to my mind. Quadrants? Where are the dividing lines, other than Nepperhan Creek? Cross County Parkway? Tibbets Creek? In what quadrant is Yonkers Gateway Motel? Or Mulberry Street? Jim.henderson (talk) 00:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
- what forests in the middle? I'm curious. I know most of the wooded areas are in the northwest part. I guess you mean the wooded area near the parkways? You're response is funny too. I deleted my earlier comments but left yours. The heading difficult to describe should be enough.
- I like the woods along the southern part of the South County Trailway. Anyway the question of subdivision remains, lately in connection with Commons:Category:Yonkers, New York. That category is subdivided topically but I'd like to subdivide it geographcally as well, and need definitions to do that. One definition of Northwest Yonkers uses only Sawmill River, while another uses Ashburton Avenue and I-87, thus excluding much of Downtown and including various incland territories such as St Joseph's. Is one of these more accepted than the other, or is there perhaps a better one? Jim.henderson (talk) 13:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
How about a decent map? On the map of NY state, Yonkers is given as a pinpoint. The Boroughs of New York acticle has a map in which Richmond (Staten Island) is purple in the SW, but there's another area, in a different color of purple, in the SE. There's no explanation there. Is it actually part of Richmond that's far removed from Staten Island, ala East Pakisran/West Pakistan, separated from each other by India? Is it a sixth borough without a name? Is it Yonkers? Is it Tombs? Is it Riker's Island? 22.214.171.124 (talk) 11:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
Yonkers on tax forms
On the state tax forms in new york, you are asked if you are a resident of new york city, a resident of yonkers, or neither. As someone who is not, does anyone know what's up with that? (I read most of the article, but I skimmed it...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kude90 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 15 March 2013 (UTC)