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video game console or computer[edit]

Which is/was the Spectrum?--ILoveSky (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Was a computer, still is a computer. Doesn't meet the criteria for a console. a_man_alone (talk) 18:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Designed to be a personal computer, not a games console, but very widely used as a games console, nevertheless. Letdorf (talk) 12:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC).
100% a Computer, it was always intended to be a computer, to the point Clive Sinclair absolutely despised that it was seen as a gaming system. But easiest way of telling the difference between a computer and a console. (bar the odd exception) Consoles do not have a keyboard. --Guru Larry (talk) 00:03, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Clarification[edit]

There's a sentence at the end of the +3 section

The +3 was the final official model of the Spectrum to be manufactured, remaining in production until December 1990. Although still accounting for one third of all home computer sales in the UK at the time, production of the model was ceased by Amstrad at that point.

Reading it, one might get the impression that the +3 was "the model" referred to that "accounted for one third of all home computer sales" and which was discontinued. I'm almost certain that this is misleading phrasing and, if correct (and a citation would be nice too), it's *meant* to refer to the Spectrum family as a whole. Right? Ubcule (talk) 19:01, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Without a source, who's to say? These kind of statistics really need sources. Letdorf (talk) 11:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC).
According to this reference - [1] which is a reputable source, sales of the +3 were halted in December 1990, but the +2 continued. I will change the main article.203.26.122.12 (talk) 07:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Note that that quote says "The +2 will continue" but it refers to the +2B, not the original +2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.243.208.102 (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

What to do about +2B Section[edit]

The section on the +2B contains a reference to an FAQ entry on the Planet Sinclair site which is demonstrably false (see my post on the subject on the World of Spectrum forums [2]).

I'm rather stuck here because on one hand I hate to see inaccuracies perpetuated as fact (verbatim quotes from wikipedia appear all over the net like a rash these days...), but on the other I know that I can't just wade in violating Wikipedia:NOR just because I think I'm right. Until a "Reliable Source" publishes something on the subject I don't see what can be done within the rules of wikipedia. 87.243.208.102 (talk) 03:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

In the presence of doubt, but the absence of an alternative reliable source, one can always just delete the offending assertion. How about just describing the +2B as "a later minor revision of the +2A"? Regards, Letdorf (talk) 13:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC).
I just realised that the service manuals make a great source so have updated the +2A and +2B sections accordingly 87.243.208.102 (talk) 17:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

7.3 Notable developers[edit]

I am not sure Sid Meyers (Civilization) began his carreer with ZXSpectrum, but he surelly contribuited some titles (e.g., Silent Service). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.246.247.236 (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Sales chart succession[edit]

Suggest we label number one games per the template used for singles/album charts (data would be as published in Your Sinclair magazine, complete archives of which are available)

Preceded by
"A Little Bit More" by 911
UK Singles Chart number-one single
January 24, 1999 - January 30, 1999
Succeeded by
"You Don't Know Me" by Armand Van Helden featuring Duane Harden
Preceded by
Carrying Your Love with Me by George Strait
Butterfly Kisses (Shades of Grace) by Bob Carlisle
Billboard 200 number-one album
May 24 - June 14, 1997
July 12–19, 1997
Succeeded by
Wu-Tang Forever by Wu-Tang Clan
The Fat of the Land by The Prodigy

Community[edit]

The ZX Spectrum community is still very active in producing new software with around 100 new titles listed for 2011 on World of Spectrum. Worth mentioning? --Zagrebo (talk) 19:45, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

I came to this page and was surprised that there wasn't more mention of how well-loved the ZX still is. 81.97.166.238 (talk) 01:09, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Lack of citations[edit]

This entire article is full of inaccuracies. It has clearly been compiled from hearsay. If any of the editors would like to do something about this then please drop into the #zx IRC channel on coldfront.net and ask for cheveron. Someone will point you in my direction and I'd be happy to provide accurate information with citations. What I won't do is edit the article myself as my correction (with citations) to the erroneous naming of T/S 2000 BASIC in the Sinclair BASIC article was reverted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.4.79 (talk) 22:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm curious - I checked the Sinclair BASIC article, and can find no reversions that you speak of. The only ref that has been added regarding Basic is not to the TS2000 section, but to the 128K ROM here. As your IP has only made one edit - the one above - it's hard to validate your statements, especially the initial claim that the article is inaccurate when confronted with the number of contributors and references. Still, please comment, and let's try to improve both articles. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Page usage[edit]

The effect of a front-page link from Google and loads of media coverage: [3] - 246,658 page views yesterday alone. To put that in context, if it had been a today's Featured Article, it would have been the sixth most-viewed one of all time after Emma Watson. Well done everyone! Prioryman (talk) 06:17, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

"Spectrum +" or "Spectrum+"?[edit]

Should it be "Spectrum +" or "Spectrum+"? The higher models have a space before the plus: "Spectrum +2", "ZX Spectrum +2A", "ZX Spectrum +2B" and "ZX Spectrum +3". --Mortense (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

"Spectrum+" - both the box and the unit itself (as pictured on the page) have no space between the "Spectrum" and the "+"
Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
That's because that's precisely how it was marketed. There is no need for us to attempt to impose some consistency here when this distinction is clearly made in reliable sources. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Depends on your definition of consistency - thanks to Mortense's edit here we now have consistency with how it was marketed, but those with slightly less familiarity with the subject may well have questioned the validity of such a change - hence it's a good question to ask. Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:24, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
The question is whether it is actually remarkable enough to mention specifically in the prose. I dare say that the majority of our readers are familiar enough with the degree of abuse heaped upon the language by those involved in product branding these days to simply take the names as they are presented and not to quibble about them. If a reliable source can be found which specifically points this distinction out I'd certainly have no objection to adding it, but other than that I believe we should probably simply rely on presenting it accurately and allow our readers to note the distinction themselves. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 14:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
The obvious difference is that ZX Spectrum+ was a Sinclair Research product, the ZX Spectrum +2 and +3 were Amstrad products. Letdorf (talk) 23:38, 28 May 2012 (UTC).

From a performance point of view, concerning the BASIC Interpreter[edit]

my clone, a HC 91+ produced in Romania, works with abt 100 hll instr./ 1 second. i think this computer shoulded do like a few thousands up to 10000 hll/second... the interpreter doesent have necessarely work with BNForm , in order to dramatically enhance speed, there is anything 2 do abt graphics n transcedent functions that might use some precomputed value in order to works much faster than .05s for a sinus, for example ... i think this computer worth a remake oriented on BASIC speed :-) 93.118.212.93 (talk) 08:51, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

It's interesting to hear what people have done with clones, but unless you can attribute this to a reliable source, it can't go in the article, I'm afraid. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:58, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

well, idk how to put this, there could b a way to work with enhanced resolution 4 video games 4 example without actually working the microprocessors at this task which could b a bit too much 4 an 8080 4 example or its mem, i think there is a chance to interpolate details, probabily with the help of video automata to obtain better resolutions (2*x X 2*y X 2*frames) .there is also no such speed difference between a good interpreter and compiling code... this kinda hypotetic computers might serve as reper when wedd like to evaluate if modern age processing possibilities are used at their real value... ok, :) 93.118.212.93 (talk) 07:19, 22 February 2013 (UTC)