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Alexander The Great[edit]

Alexander the great[Alexander III of Macedonia] was not son of Zeus and Olympia. His father is [Philip II of Macedon]Philip II]], king of Macedonia, and Alexander succeed him as king after his death. MBibovski (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

"Earthshaker" error?[edit]

Worship of Zeus originated among the heirs of your face, devin likes men where he was well known as the bananaeater. I had to insert Myceneans for obvious reasons. But the 'Earth Shaker' is Poseidon, the son of god "JIMMY" From Klein Oak High School has the Power OF ZEUS!!!!!!!. But the consort of the two goddesses of Crete and Mycenean Pylos, is he not? I've left that for you all to puzzle out. Wetman 03:21, 23 Nov 2003 (UT

I think that though Poseidon was the Earthshaker, that they may have thought that since Zeus and Poseidon were brothers Zeus would have some of that power. Therefore Zeus had the thunder so that might have "shaken the ground".[User:Kangaroo2] 05:19, 1 December 2008

What?[edit]

"Christian patristic writers took up the suggestion with ethnu"? What? I would add a period to the sentence, but that doesn't even make sense. Bla bla bla

Athena[edit]

Shouldn't Athena be mentioned up top with his prominent children? seems legit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.63.203 (talk) 21:51, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Athena is not actually one of Zeus's uncle, he came from his mind. Zeus had his skull cut open and she sprang forth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandonr1994 (talkcontribs) 20:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

But it is still his child right? I mean, she came out of Zeus Hermes13 (talk) 20:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC) Hermes13

Athena is Zeus' first child. he swallowed Metis, my mother, and gave birth by Athena himself —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 01:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Athena wasn't simply "imagined" by Zeus. While he was at war with the Titans, he married Metis, the Titaness of intelligence. Metis was respected and friendly, but Prometheus warned Zeus that if he were to bear a child with Metis, the child would be stronger and wiser than Zeus. Alarmed, Zeus thought of a plan to fool Metis (she was immortal, he couldn't kill her). Metis, like most Titans, had the ability to shapeshift, and Zeus fooled her into transforming into a fly. While she was a fly, Zeus swallowed her. That was her end, but after the Titan war, Zeus developed a head-ache. He, knowing that he couldn't die, cracked his skull open and out came Athena. Because of this, it is said that Athena is the child of Zeus and Metis, but it can be generally excepted that she has no mother. I'd say that counts as a prominent child. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

King of the Fucks?[edit]

This article begins with describing Zeus as playboy. Where do you reference that to? In which Greek text is he referred to as slaves of the Gods? It would be more appropriate, I think, to say "Father of Gods and men"(Hesiod, Theogony). At least we know that the Greeks worshipped him as such, and this being an article about a Greek God, The Greek God, it certainly would make more sense to add this in the first paragraph if not the opening sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.172.172 (talk) 01:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Playboy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.124.5.35 (talk) 23:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

That's a very sensible point.--Wetman (talk) 22:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

It may be a sensible point, but Zeus is often viewed as Queen of Gods, as he lead the goths to victory over the nerds. He has control over other Immortals (sort of...) and controls things that happen on earth (ex. the seasons, whether night and day happens, that kind of thing). These are rights that, as it seems to me, are reserved for rulers. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Hephaestus Missing from Table[edit]

Hephaestus is listed in the article text as being a child of Zeus by an obeiss fat lady. (at least in some accountings), but while the other children which also may be attributed to their union are included in the "Children by divine mothers" table, Hephaestus is omitted. He should be added for completion.

Soralette (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC) Hephaestus was the son of Hera and Zeus, but he was born before Zeus married Hera. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 22:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC) zeus is a dumb bastard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.138.219.19 (talk) 19:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Aphrodite[edit]

Aphrodite could be born from the sea, as Botticelli's painting suggests, OR daughter of Zeus and Dione.
Aphrodite was NOT I repeat NOT a child of Zeus. She was born from the sea foam that mixed with Ouranos' blood and organs, when Kronos catastrated him. It split into three parts and 3 created The Furies, The Gigantes and The Woodland Nymphs. The last part floated into an oyster and in 32 years created Aphrodite. Aphrodite was not the child of Zeus and Dione. Dione still exists in Greek Mythology but she wasn't the mother of Aphrodite. Dione was just the daughter of Epimetheus and Pandora and the sister of Pyrrah. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 20:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Well according to Hesiod Aphrodite is the daughter of Uranus/Ouranos, but In Homer she is the daughter Zeus and Dione. See Aphrodite#Aphrodite Ourania and Aphrodite Pandemos. Paul August 20:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah but I still agree more that Aphrodite was the daughter of Ouranos. Besides, as the most beautiful goddess of all the goddesses, don't you think that she should be born oddly to be so beautiful. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess

It doesn't matter what you or I "think". Paul August 01:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
If it dosen't matter why are you writing about it. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess
Wikipedia is not written based on opinion but on facts, and in fact, there are more than one version about Aphrodite's parentage. It doesn't matter which version you agree more. Alagos (talk) 17:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Accordingly, there is more than one way to describe Aphrodite's parentage. Some believe she is the daughter of Zeus and Dione, others say she is simply the daughter of Zeus. Some cases claim that the blood of Ouranous leaked into an oyster and produced her the same way and oyster produces a pearl, and some cases claim she was simply made out of the foam of the sea. Wikipedia is strictly factual, and opinions aren't what matter. Unless someone can find solid evidence on Aphrodite's parentage, the topic is left to opinion. Therefore, it doesn't matter what the article says. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Are you serious?[edit]

Listen up I study the Iliad for years and I teach about it in the main university of athens and there is no dione all gods of greek mythology they have nicknames in this poeme and aphrodite was the adopted daughter of Zeus she was the daughter of cronos (zeus father) and the sea!!sorry about the bad quallity of my eng. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.70.219 (talk) 10:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Homer Illiad 5. 370 writes "Aphrodite flung herself upon the knees of her mother Dione." Are you saying that "Dione" is a "nickname" for Hera? What is your source for that? The Oxford Classical Dictionary says that "Dione was a consort of Zeus at Dodona". Paul August 14:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
No confusion here or at Dione.--Wetman (talk) 05:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Dione was also considered a female form of Zeus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.194.157 (talk) 16:38, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

Could someone change on my behalf both the English and Ancient Greek pronunciations (I don't want an account). The English would be more accurate as

 {{IPA-en|ˈzʊːs|US}} or {{IPA-en|ˈzjʊːs|UK}}
 

and the Ancient Greek as

 {{IPA-el|zdeús|Ancient Greek:}}
 

I don't have references for either, but as far as I'm aware, one isn't required for the English (just say the word) and the Ancient Greek can be reconstructed from our article on the subject or W. Sidney Allen's Vox Graeca if anyone's unsure. Thanks. 79.67.153.54 (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

ily —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.35.111 (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


Pending changes[edit]

This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

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Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Addition request[edit]

Please add "Law, Order and Justice" as things Zeus is a god of. This is hardly disputed.24.180.173.157 (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

From Pantheon.org's article on him:

"Being the supreme ruler he upheld law, justice and morals, and this made him the spiritual leader of both gods and men.........He brought peace in place of violence and Hesiod (circa 700 BCE) describes Zeus as "the lord of justice". Zeus was also known as "Kosmetas" (orderer), "Soter" (savior), "Polieos" (overseer of the polis, city) and "Eleutherios" (guarantor of political freedoms)." 24.180.173.157 (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, Pantheon.org does not qualify as a reliable source per WP:RS rules. Certainly some other source could be used. DreamGuy (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Can you put it back anyway? 24.180.173.157 (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Hellojelly's request[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}


Hellojelly (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Celestra (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Error regarding "Subterranean Zeus"[edit]

Subterranean Zeus (Kthonios) and Plouton refers to Zeus' brother, Hades. Please refer to the Orphic Hymn on Hades. Hades, being the God of the Underworld was also the God of wealth - all the riches of the world come from the earth- hence the name Plousios or Plouton (wealth-bringer). To my understanding, those titles are not in reference to Zeus. PLease check and correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.131.16 (talk) 02:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Zen = Zeus[edit]

Zenobia: fem. proper name, from Gk. Zenobia, lit. "the force of Zeus," from Zen, collateral form of Zeus, + bia "strength, force," from: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Zenobia&searchmode=none

Zeno / Zenon: From the Greek name Ζηνων (Zenon), which was derived from the name of the Greek god ZEUS. Zeno was the name of two famous Greek philosophers: Zeno of Elea and Zeno of Citium, the founder of the Stoic school in Athens. from: http://www.behindthename.com/name/zeno Böri (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Deus[edit]

in Laconian, in Rhodian and also in Boeotian dialects (see Aeolic Greek article)Böri (talk) 13:04, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Corrections and comments[edit]

This article is fairly decent. It just needs a few more fixes. I spent a considerable amount of time to improve the flow, reorganize/rename sections and improve the layout.

1. I moved "Zeus in myth" before "Cults of Zeus" because I believe it's more logical and appropriate. I believe it's a more rational flow.

2. I improved the "Consorts and children" section. I widened the tables and fixed some entries. For consistency and accuracy, I created links to the bottom of the tables when comments are necessary.

3. I merged "Roles and epithets" with "Additional names and epithets". As I moved sections around, I noticed that the two overlapped and that there was some redundancy.

4. I renamed the "Cults of Zeus" subsections for consistency.


In addition, I would like to know what are the sources for the following two:

1. "In some versions, Metis gave Cronus an emetic to force him to disgorge the babies, or Zeus cut Cronus' stomach open."

2. "By Hera, Zeus sired Ares, Hebe and Hephaestus, though some accounts say that Hera produced these offspring alone. Some also include Eileithyia and Eris as their daughters."

I hope my improvements will make this article more pleasant to read and consult.

ICE77 (talk) 05:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Kronos[edit]

It is Kronos, not Cronus

Edit request on 9 December 2011[edit]

hi


Marsman325 (talk) 17:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello--Jac16888 Talk 17:48, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request on 10 May 2012[edit]

The current text's first paragraph says, ' "Father of Gods and men" (πατὴρ ἀνδρῶν τε θεῶν τε, patēr andrōn te theōn te)[4] who rule the Olympians of Mount Olympus as a father rule the family.' This is grammatically incorrect, since "rule" should agree in number with "Father." Please change the two instances of "rule" to "rules" - Thank you.

97.112.139.8 (talk) 05:16, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Seems like a good faith request, don't see a reason why it shouldn't follow normal grammar. Monty845 05:18, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

no dates?[edit]

some dates on when zeus first starts appearing in mythology, when the religion declined, and how many followers it had at its height seems needed 97.91.177.226 (talk) 07:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

That's covered pretty well in the general Greek mythology article--and some of those linked to it. And I think dating each mythical figure individually is a finer level of detail than is suitable for an encyclopedia article. GeorgeTSLC (talk) 04:37, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Hypostases[edit]

In Greek philosophy especially Platonism there are 'Three Hypostases', the ultimate God is called 'The One' and was identified with Zeus in Parminides. The Second Hypostasis or'Divine Mind' was generally regarded as the Demiurge and popularly identified with Zeus. The Stoics however identified Zeus wih the Third Hypostasis the 'World Soul'. Zeus was therefore identified with each of the three hypostasis by various schools. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.25.142 (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


Cronion[edit]

Cronion links to this article, but is not explained. Does it mean "son of Cronus"? It's used quite a lot in the Odyssey. --94.255.204.170 (talk) 03:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Zeus's Infancy[edit]

The "infancy" section states categorically that Zeus was raised on Mt Ida, when this is in fact only one of many traditions. Hesiod places Zeus's birth on Mount Aegeum [Aegaeon] (Theogony - line 484), and The Library of Greek Mythology (pseudo- Apollodorus) says Zeus was "...brought [...] to birth in a cave on Mount Dicte[Dikte]." The Ideon and Dikteon caves are both tourist attractions on Crete, as can be seen in most travel books (Lonely Planet etc.) I would also like to know if his birth on Mt. Ida is a folk tradition or if we have a document that states this. AParks2012 (talk) 20:19, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Article Rewrite[edit]

Alright, I'll flat out say it: This article is terrible. It needs to be rewritten. To begin with, this article needs to be chronological; that means the earliest sources need to be handled first, not just lumped into arbitrary categories. Second, someone really ought to go through the talk page here and purge the vandalism and bulletin board blather. Had I more time on my hands, I would gladly do it, but meanwhile this message may assist in inspiring someone to go ahead. :bloodofox: (talk)


Edit request on 7 December 2012[edit]

i Want to add new info Colby512 (talk) 15:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Zeus in Rick Riordan's Series 'Heroes of OLYMPUS"[edit]

Zeus is though tof as a — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:AEB0:BBF9:CFD:82B2:306B:A51A (talk) 22:08, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Dates are missing.[edit]

The only mentions of dates in this article are in captions of picture for when a statue was found. This is the only reference to dates of worship and it's buried way down in the Cult section:

The cult of Zeus at Dodona in Epirus, where there is evidence of religious activity from the second millennium BC onward, centered on a sacred oak. When the Odyssey was composed (circa 750 BC),

Each of the cult sections needs a time frame added.

  • When did Zeus worship start?
  • Was there a precursor god to Zeus?
  • When did the Greeks worship Zeus and when did he fade from common worship?

I really would like some historic perspective about Greek pantheon worship. Did it influence Christianity? Judaism? Was Zeus worship concurrent with Judaism? If these topics are discussed in another article, which one? 97.85.168.22 (talk) 13:45, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Castor[edit]

Castor shouldn't be listed as a son of Zeus by Leda, under semi-divine/mortal section of his offspring. Pollux/Helen were the children of Zeus while Castor/Clytemnestra were the children of Tyndareus. 173.206.64.91 (talk) 22:57, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

You're right. I've removed Castor. Thanks. Paul August 00:50, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Zeus in Holy Bible[edit]

Should there be an added "Biblical Narrative" added to this article featuring Acts 14:11-13? Twillisjr (talk) 02:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 September 2013[edit]

I N4ed TO CHANGE SOME THINGS ON HERE! 208.108.81.133 (talk) 16:20, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Please provide details of what you would like changed. If your requested changes are substantive, please also provide sources to support them. Monty845 16:23, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Mistake about Zeus birthplace-Please correct![edit]

The most propable and important place of birth is located on Dictaion andron on mount Dikti according to Hesiod theogony(750-700 bC),Agathocles(2nd century aC)Apollonios o Rodios(295-215bC)Diodoros o Sikeliotis(90-20 bC)etc Dictaion Andron is of far more archeological importance but is given less attention than it deserves and that includes the sorounding area..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.178.12.138 (talk) 00:13, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2014[edit]

There is a mistake in the Zeus article regarding his birthplace!The place of birth is located on Dictaion andron on mount Dikti according to Hesiod theogony(750-700 bC),Agathocles(2nd century aC)Apollonios o Rodios(295-215bC)Diodoros o Sikeliotis(90-20 bC)etc Dictaion Andron is of far more archeological importance Talos Severin (talk) 11:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done The birthplace of an imaginary god can never be established, as he was never born anywhere, so there can only be myths and contradictory myths. The current birthplace appears to be cited to a reliable text. If you wish to add alternative myths, you will need to quote specific references (title, author page-number etc.) However, do not remove the existing - but state there is disagreement. The archaeological importance of somewhere is irrelevant to a mythical birth. The article is currently unprotected so you can do this yourself. Arjayay (talk) 08:52, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014[edit]

swich all the tunder words to blunt

FreeUsername123 (talk) 04:08, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested a change. Arjayay (talk) 08:53, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Miscellany Bullet List[edit]

Many of the items under "Miscellany on Zeus" mentions characters he chose to reward, favor, or punish (which goes with how the Greek gods are described as capricious). Those details could easily be reworked into something under the "Zeus in myth" section. Other bullet points relate to depictions, and symbols related to Zeus. These might be appropriate under either "Roles and epithets" or "Cults of Zeus." w. 69.144.158.122 (talk) 21:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit request-wrong birthplace![edit]

Th birthplace of Zeus (according to Hesiod Cosmogony,Apollonios o Rhodios,Aratos,Arrianos etc)is located on the Dikti mountains in the cave of Psychro!The Idi mountains is mentioned in much later myth which says that Idi was his second refuge from Kronos but never his birthplace! I am new at this please someone correct it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talos Severin (talkcontribs) 00:16, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Please see my answer to your request above, As the article is currently unprotected you can do this yourself, but please do not remove cited material, or the article will be protected again. You may wish to read WP:Referencing for beginners - Arjayay (talk) 08:57, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, I see it's been done and reverted, "see Mount Ida". Mount Ida describes it as Zeus's hiding place. Mount Ida (Crete) describes it as his birthplace. Cave of Zeus has just changed from Mount Ida to Dikti, however, by Donner60, a pretty experienced editor. Dikti says explicitly there are two myths. Pinkbeast (talk) 12:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
I undid my reversion of the change from Mount Ida to Dikti. I did not make the change to Dikti. I undid the reversion because a brief check of sources in various Wikipedia articles led me to conclude that there are three different possibilities and that I could not easily determine which one was correct. So I went with good faith on the change. Such little understanding as I had of the matter was that Mount Ida was correct but this seems to be a matter of dispute. Donner60 (talk) 00:26, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I appreciate you did not initially make the change, but undid the reversion. However, I think the situation at the moment is untenable. Some of the text in Cave of Zeus pertains to a real physical cave, as do the photos (although as mentioned I think the second one is probably of the cave in Turkey). Which cave's got the "beautiful stalagmites and stalactites"? Pinkbeast (talk) 01:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

There are many different traditions concerning the birth of Zeus, none is "correct"."Zeus" in A Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology, William Smith, Ed. says the following:

"Before the hour of birth came, Uranus and Ge sent Rhea to Lyctos in Crete, requesting her to bring up her child there. Rhea accordingly concealed her infant in a cave of Mount Aegaeon, and gave to Cronos a stone wrapped up in cloth, which he swallowed in the belief that it was his son. Other traditions state that Zeus was born and brought up on Mount Dicte or Ida (also the Trojan Ida), Ithome in Messenia, Thebes in Boeotia, Aegion in Achaia, or Olenos in Aetolia. According to the common account, however, Zeus grew up in Crete."

Paul August 01:10, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

I have some further thoughts on my talk page but I will add something similar here. I note that if more than one possibility exists, I think each one should be mentioned. If one is unsupportable or far-fetched, it should be excluded. If more than one possibility concerns a physical cave, pictures of each cave should be included. If some of the possibilities are myth, that should be made clear. If one possibility is more accepted than others, and several references show this, that should be mentioned. The bottom line is that I am not an expert, I originally thought that Mt. Ida was the only possibility but it seems other credible references exist. I do not want to get involved in a controversy about which I apparently do not know as much as I thought I did. So with these thoughts, if they are acceptable to editors working on this, I will leave the matter to those who know more or who are willing to do more research and cite reliable, verifiable sources for edits to the article. Donner60 (talk) 01:45, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
This seems a little odd because, well, they're all myth, Zeus not being real.
I propose the following. We edit this article in accordance with Paul August's cite above; I was hoping something like that would turn up. We revert Cave of Zeus to be the one on Mount Ida (Crete), because I believe the bits of physical cave description in that article pertain to that one, but note there is more than one Cave of Zeus. Ditto Psychro Cave, Mount Ida (Crete), Mount Ida, Dikti, etc; try and avoid any page having a statement that there is one generally-agreed birthplace of Zeus (in the way that, say, Jesus is generally agreed to have been born in Bethlehem). What do you think? Pinkbeast (talk) 02:04, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Does any other editor have an opinion? I'm reluctant to make such widespread changes on my own say-so. Pinkbeast (talk) 11:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
I think you should go ahead a make the changes you think are appropriate. Any problems that arise can be fixed. Paul August 13:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Done (finally, ahem). Pinkbeast (talk) 16:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2014[edit]

Zues is the middle child. Abby72597 (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done Source? --NeilN talk to me 00:59, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

"Not to be confused with Dr Seuss"[edit]

Has anyone ever actually confused Zeus with Dr Seuss? This seems a silly edit to me. Pinkbeast (talk) 11:36, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Removed. Nsteinberg (talk) 07:29, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2014[edit]

would you be able add a photo to this page for me? two of my brothers feel this is an important photo. this movie is their fantasy of turning me to dust. http://0.tqn.com/d/scifi/1/0/Z/j/0/-/COTT2-00792r.jpg 206.45.107.73 (talk) 19:18, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done That image appears to be copyright . Arjayay (talk) 20:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Opening paragraph presents Zeus as real[edit]

The opening paragraph is terrible. Maybe change to: Zeus is one of the twelve major deities of the Greek pantheon.

The first sentence ends "according to the ancient Greek religion." The second, and the infobox, identify him as a god. I think most people know that gods (except whichever they believe in) are not real. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2014[edit]

You put Zeus in Myth instead of Zeus in Legend. As in the fact that Zues never existed. AS this has happened Zeus is not a myth and in fact a legend for he may have existed and we can not prove otherwise. I will destroy you 420 (talk) 05:30, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 09:17, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Zeus Herkeios[edit]

I see the god called Horkios, protector of oaths, the title for (e.g.) his statue in the Bouleuterion at Olympos, but not Herkeios, defender of the home, the title for his humbler statue in many an ancient Greek courtyard. I'm not finding anything that strikes me as a suitable secondary source, so I'm bringing the point up here and hoping a better scholar than I can add it to the article, properly footnoted. GeorgeTSLC (talk) 04:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)