Talk:Zog nit keyn mol

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The copyright notice[edit]

I took a look at the page, and it seems to be a copy of the lyrics. I'm not sure whether they are in the public domain or not, but I figured it should be noted here. --HAL2008talk 19:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The work was written in Lithuania, and the author died in 1944. What's the copyright law in Lithuania? -- 76.15.239.115 (talk) 07:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's effectively impossible to find out who owns the copyright, and get permission. It's an orphan work. If these lyrics are under copyright, then it would be impossible for anyone to publish the music or perform the song. You couldn't publish books of music on that period. That doesn't make any sense. I think it's fair use to reproduce it. If a copyright lawyer who understood international copyrights were to say otherwise, I might be convinced. I'm sure the author wouldn't want his song to be suppressed until 2044. --Nbauman (talk) 21:25, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since the author died in 1944, the lyrics entered public domain in 2015 (70 years after his death). Ausir (talk) 16:39, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mosin-Nagant rifle?[edit]

Mosin-Nagant rifle never called in Russia the same name. Its official title "3-linear rifle M 1891" commonly known as "trehlineyka", ie "trilinear"; sometimes also called "the Mosin rifle," but never "Mosin-Nagant rifle." Consequently, in the song refers exclusively revolvers Nagant. Sfrandzi (talk) 05:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The music in a Soviet movie from 1938[edit]

Utyosov singing the earlier version can be heard at http://classic-online.ru/ru/production/27783 Tittelintuure (talk) 05:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics and copyright status[edit]

@70.26.71.8: Regarding this restoration of full lyrics, a few points:

Any work from after 1924 is presumed to be copyrighted under U.S. law, but I just noticed the above section where it's established the original lyrics are probably now public domain.
Source citations are necessary before the copyright status of the English translations can be established, since they all must have been made in the 1940s or later, and fresh copyright applies for derivative works. Given the year of death in 1976, works of Paul Robeson are probably not in the public domain. It's unclear what year Miriam Schlesinger created this translation, and whether or not that person is still alive. "Unknown translator" is a very insufficient citation for copyright purposes.
Because of the target audiences, long texts in Yiddish are not appropriate for the English Wikipedia, though they may be appropriate for the Yiddish Wikipedia.
Full lyrics are generally inappropriate for Wikipedia, and are better posted on Wikisource, though there are already external links for the full text from this article.

In short, if anyone wants to research the copyright status of the English translations, that might enable them to be copied in full, but they should probably be posted to English Wikisource rather than this article. I've dropped the full text again for legal and language reasons, but for now they are available in the article history if anyone needs to copy them. -- Beland (talk) 02:40, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]